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30 minutes ago, Garrac said:

... Did GW actually read a complain by me, listened, and fixed the issue?

Now im half happy, half over the Moon, and half scared

Quickly, ask for new rat ogres and gutter runners!

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52 minutes ago, Garrac said:

... Did GW actually read a complain by me, listened, and fixed the issue?

Now im half happy, half over the Moon, and half scared

While I am happy this is not behind paywall, it is annoying for those paying warhammer +... just create two separate ones. Or a part 1 and a part 2 with a second battle as a follow-up.

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Another Almanack, this time on converting up 'unit fillers'. Nice to see some conversion/kitbashing articles out of WarCom.

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A unit filler is a creative way to bolster your troop count and spice up your squares – a modelling project set on a larger base that fits into the middle of your unit, representing multiple individual models. Once you’ve taken enough casualties, simply remove the filler.

Never thought I'd read that out of a modern GW article.

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16 hours ago, Luperci said:

Not entirely true, the horus heresy has plenty of rules for unreleased minis, less so these days but it still happens. I can see the old world having rules without models, being a specialist games product.

Perhaps.  But we do already have precedent for heirotitan being rolled into the colossus.  Even if tOW is more lax about rules without models, I doubt the heirotitan will make it in.

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Then again, that unit filler article, promoting kit bashing and, effectively, proxying to reduce cost of units, really does show a different attitude with respect to this game than we've seen from games workshop in ages.

I wonder if I still have my old arcane ruin unit fillers....

oh, wait, those were made to fit on units of 20mm square infantry, they wouldn't fit the new units... hrm...

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46 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

While I am happy this is not behind paywall, it is annoying for those paying warhammer +... just create two separate ones. Or a part 1 and a part 2 with a second battle as a follow-up.

I am a subscriber and I am happy they shared it. The more people come in contact with TOW the better😀

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3 minutes ago, Tonhel said:

I am a subscriber and I am happy they shared it. The more people come in contact with TOW the better😀

I feel the same.  I think GW is right to be taking a more cautious, minimum viable product style approach to the old world, but that means if we want it to succeed that's going to require a lot of community investment.  The more people we can get to start, the more chances of getting the kind of effortful people who will put in extra work needed.

Because yeah, this game is going to need community work, from better/more fun scenarios and mission objectives to rules updates for legacy factions that GW are unlikely to touch after the pdfs are published, not even to provide necessary updates to future core rule changes if Warhammer Legacy is any precedent.

Recall how bad a shape Age of Sigmar was in when it launched and how much work the community had to put in to turn that game around, with GW slowly getting dragged along behind them.  So it will be for ToW, though thankfully the game doesn't look to be launching in quite that bad a state.

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6 hours ago, BarakUrbaz said:

What variant army lists do you think we are going to get for the Old World? We know of Bretonnia having the Errantry Crusade and Exile variants, do we know of something similar coming in the Tomb Kings book?

Personally, I'm hoping we get the Slayer Host of Karak Kadrin (like the Storm of Chaos army list) for Dwarfs. 

So, we know:

  • Kingdom of Bretonnia: Bretonnian Exiles + Errantry Crusades
  • Tomb Kings of Khemri: Nehekharan Royal Hosts + the Mortuary Cult

Random thoughts on the others:

  • Dwarfen Mountain Holds: Slayer Hosts of Karak Kadrin + Zhufbar Engineers Guild
  • Orc & Goblin Tribes: Night Goblin Underdwellers + Savage Orc WAAAGH!
  • Empire of Man: Armies of the Westerland/Reikland/Talabec/Österlund.
  • High Elf Realms: Cothique Sea Patrol + Saphery Enclave
  • Warriors of Chaos: Norscan Raiders + Favoured of the Gods
  • Wood Elf Realms: Wild Hunt + Spirits of the Forest
  • Beastmen Brayherds: Spawn of Morghur + Minotaur Tribes

Of course, these ideas will change as we get a look at the Army Lists and their mechanics.

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10 minutes ago, Tonhel said:

I am a subscriber and I am happy they shared it. The more people come in contact with TOW the better😀

I agree that it is nice that they made it public, but the Warhammer + content is so scarce that you cannot make only that battle report for the week and make it public, IMO. is not that hard to take the same armies and make another one. Warhammer + is pricey for the content we receive, imo.

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Goodness I can't wait for these books.

And unit fillers!! I'm so happy to see them publish an article on them. As a kit basher, they were one of the main draws that got me into Fantasy and it's just nice to see conversion/kit bash articles. 

I think I'm deciding on a Border Prince force, the one with the Kislev icon(?). The heroes from Cursed City would be perfect for leaders and unit fillers. The Ogre in particular :).

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2 hours ago, michu said:

 

Damn, didn't think I'd have any interest in TOW but that video made me feel hella nostalgic, just the terrain and grass mat alone. ❤️ Still unlikely I'll start it unless my group does but it retained that classic charm for sure.

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1 hour ago, KingKull said:

Slightly worried that the Exile's vow is Knight's vow +1 (or rather +3). Wait and see the full picture, I guess.

I think if you take the Bretonnian Exiles armylist that you will not have acces to questing or grail vows. Than the Exile's vow is very cool to have. I think it is also only available for characters. In this case "Banished Lord" unit entry.

Edit: The possibilties for armybuilding seem huge. Very immersive and cool. You can really personalize your characters. It's something I really miss with AoS. 

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So, with the base sizes announced it looks like the AoS round bases will fit within the Old World 'footprint' (at least for the freeguild/empire and the dwarves, I haven't checked others) 

Now we just need someone to sell movement trays with appropriate sized round indents.

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