Sarouan Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 The box actually has a lot more game accessories included in it than 40k launch box, so they definitely think more about it. To me, everything in this is screaming "COMPETITIVE SCENE FOCUS PRODUCT !!", so I guess I'll stay in the Old World. Miniatures are nice, but I'm more attracted by the clanrats and liberators rather than the new stuff. Which is nice, because it means they'll be present in the smaller, more affordable true starter boxes they'll unavoidably offer later. So I'll wait more and see. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 I don't know how deep they will go into describing characters, but it is surprising there's a section for Vedra: It feels like they are really pushing CoS into a top spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 I also think the inclusion of the Fire & Jade book is really cool. Having all the faction Spearhead rules with twist decks based around Ghyran and Aqshy. Perhaps there will be further "Spearhead" books with new Spearhead rules and new twist decks from other realms. If there is any credence to the Warcry going bye bye rumours, what would the likelihood be that we get new editions of Spearhead? With a new book with all the rules and each faction getting a new Spearhead composition each season. (Would they even go so far as having Spearhead v Spearhead launch boxes)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeryenn Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 I didn't have high expectations to start with but the box is overall ok. Skaven stuff is great. Clawlord and his mount, absolutely great artillery and some well sculpted Ogres. The best part is that there's a lot of guns and tech. AoS needed another techy army. I would score it 8/10 as it checks all the boxes but there's no "WOW" model like let's say Thanquol. As for the Stormcasts they don't justify latest GW's cut in the range that many people suffered from. Most miniatures still feel recycled. Those are just another iterations of the same miniatures released with each edition over and over again. The lack of intrusive political correctness should be considered an advantage and I would score it two extra points. Thus 5/10 for recycling but overall 7/10. Pretty good box that I'll probably pick up if the price is right. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarouan Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hollow said: If there is any credence to the Warcry going bye bye rumours They litterally made an article about the future of Warcry and an interview of Warcry game developper who said they will keep working on adding new stuff / new miniatures from AoS in Warcry profiles on the Warhammer Community not so long ago, so these rumours are basically bollocks. Edited May 17 by Sarouan 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 2 minutes ago, Sarouan said: They litterally made an article about the future of Warcry and an interview of Warcry game developper who said they will keep working on adding new stuff / new miniatures from AoS in Warcry profiles on the Warhammer Community not so long ago, so these rumours are basically bollocks. 12-18 months is a long time. Not saying they are true (nobody knows) but I could see it happening. I also don't think it would necessarily be a bad thing if Spearhead is as good as it is looking to be and takes off. If not, I could also see them sticking with Warcry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 15 minutes ago, Big Kim Woof-Woof said: I'm trying to work out where on the map Slaanesh is... Between Ulgu and Hysh, where they should be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) I am happy that 90% of the Stormcast side is eminently proxy-able using the squatted stuff either straight out of the box (Libs, Prosectors, Lord Veritant after he steals the Imperitant doggo) or with a minimum of kitbash (Reclusians, Lord Crow, Lord Axe). Only for the grandsons I'll need something new, but I have already built two using Frostgrave stuff. so the "continuity" of the range is not a negative point from my perspective. One thing I noticed is that objectives are actually printed on the Spearhead boards, which seems like a weird choice. It adds to the feeling that the "one box and done" selling point of Spearhead is a bit misleading considering how much additional non-mini stuff you'll need (twist and tactics cards decks, custom boards). EDIT: in addition, having the objectives printed on Spearhead boards greatly reduce their usability outside of that specific format, as you can't use them to build up to a full (or half) table for AoS-main. Edited May 17 by Marcvs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ejecutor Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 minute ago, Marcvs said: I am happy that 90% of the Stormcast side is eminently proxy-able using the squatted stuff either straight out of the box (Libs, Prosectors, Lord Veritant after he steals the Imperitant doggo) or with a minimum of kitbash (Reclusians, Lord Crow, Lord Axe). Only for the grandsons I'll need something new, but I have already built two using Frostgrave stuff. so the "continuity" of the range is not a negative point from my perspective. One thing I noticed is that objectives are actually printed on the Spearhead boards, which seems like a weird choice. It adds to the feeling that the "one box and done" selling point of Spearhead is a bit misleading considering how much additional non-mini stuff you'll need (twist and tactics cards decks, custom boards). Veritant came with doggo always. It is nice that we can reuse the models. Even the Vigilant can be proxied with the Lord Arcanum on Grhyp Charger. I agree on the board with the printed objectives. It would have been way better if the objectives weren't there (maybe separate items?) and you could get multiple boards to make a bigger one to play AoS games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ejecutor said: Veritant came with doggo always different base size Veritant is OG doggos (40mm) new one looks like Imperitant doggo-size (32mm) 1 minute ago, Ejecutor said: Even the Vigilant can be proxied with the Lord Arcanum on Grhyp Charger. 100% but I put it in the kitbashable category as I would at least swap the staff for an axe Edited May 17 by Marcvs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captaniser Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Snagged picture from the video showing how much of the Parch has been overrun by the vermindoom 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmorley21 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 3 hours ago, Bosskelot said: While the early reports were suggesting a lot less models in the box, I would've still preferred a box without the Spearhead book, spearhead cards, terrain or mat that was just cheaper. All the minis are great, and even with the increased price it's still a big discount, but I do not want extra ****** cluttering my house up or having to just chuck stuff out because I have no need of it nor can I find a good home for it. It's just wasteful. Then just wait. They always release starter sets with less auxiliary stuff later on. 32 minutes ago, Sarouan said: The box actually has a lot more game accessories included in it than 40k launch box, so they definitely think more about it. To me, everything in this is screaming "COMPETITIVE SCENE FOCUS PRODUCT !!", so I guess I'll stay in the Old World. Miniatures are nice, but I'm more attracted by the clanrats and liberators rather than the new stuff. Which is nice, because it means they'll be present in the smaller, more affordable true starter boxes they'll unavoidably offer later. So I'll wait more and see. I disagree. It’s a starter set for a new edition, and for Spearhead. I think buying this for some friends I’m trying to get into the game will be a lot better than me buying it to use competitively. The GHB cards are nice, but that’s really it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarouan Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Hollow said: 12-18 months is a long time. Not saying they are true (nobody knows) but I could see it happening. I also don't think it would necessarily be a bad thing if Spearhead is as good as it is looking to be and takes off. If not, I could also see them sticking with Warcry. Look at it another way : 40k 10th Patrol Mode didn't replace Kill Team. They are both different games with different flavours. Warcry and Spearhead are the same. You can believe these rumours if you want, but I think they're made up by people trying to build drama out of nothing just so you keep clicking on their sites / videos. Edited May 17 by Sarouan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Templar_Lad Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Absolutely phenomenal! Those Rat Ogors, holy moly. Just a holy moly all around. LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 7 hours ago, dmorley21 said: Then just wait. They always release starter sets with less auxiliary stuff later on. I disagree. It’s a starter set for a new edition, and for Spearhead. I think buying this for some friends I’m trying to get into the game will be a lot better than me buying it to use competitively. The GHB cards are nice, but that’s really it. 100% agree. Everything seems made and build for new players, with enough things for old players to be tempted too Edited May 17 by Beliman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarouan Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 It's just a launch box. The difference is that they include the Spearhead mode in it and that it seems they really think it through about the practicality of this game mode and giving everything to play it right out this box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmani Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) I think this is overall a very good box. Each side has a spearhead included, but we get more than just a spearhead. Both forces i imagine have a great draw for new players. Each… looks good. With maybe a hero or two „too many“, but that’s it. The core forces have a nice representation of stuff that you’re almost guaranteed to keep using, should you expand on either range. I also like how they struck a balance between new & old players. GHB stuff for the tourney guys & gals, spearhead for the newbies. Great set of models, some terrain but not too much. Looks very well thought out. Edit: Story basically writes itself, too. The Questor quests, is one of the first ones to learn of the new Skaven threat. Fights for is live, gets help from some libs, it’s still not enough, so he calls for reinforcements. Bam, the Ruination Chamber answers, now aware of how dire the situation really is. Edited May 17 by Rachmani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 hour ago, Gitzdee said: And bonesplitterz would be 3 separate orruk tomes? Or they would just ignore them again as they wont get a spearhead box. Edit: or should we be counting SCE again because they have multiple boxes? Bonesplitterz and BoC are out . yes , Stormcast has already a spearhead box . Orruk warclans is actually Kruleboyz spearhead. So we miss Ironjawz spearhead to reach 25 spearheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) This got me so excited that I while GW refuses to fix ToW skavens I could try and play AoS games. Hope Path to glory ends up being cool cos I love narrative games! Also, I may even use some of these minis as proxies on my Chaos Cult army, lol Edited May 17 by Garrac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarouan Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 20 minutes ago, dmorley21 said: I disagree. It’s a starter set for a new edition, and for Spearhead. I think buying this for some friends I’m trying to get into the game will be a lot better than me buying it to use competitively. The GHB cards are nice, but that’s really it. Pretty sure the Spearhead books, maps and accessories will be available separately and not just in the launch box. As for myself, the fact they included it in the launch box gives already a tone to this new edition that I'm just not interested into. The Path to Glory, I honestly believe it will be skeletal at best in the core book and it's really intended to show in the battletomes that will be released in the future. Welcome to the Age of Gameplay Shenanigans : fight for 5 stone circles randomly carved in the ground by who knows who to gather objective points each battle round, that makes no sense for the story nor the looks of the table ! Edited May 17 by Sarouan 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augusto Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 The lore of Lord terminos reminds me of what whitefang said about the future of vandus/gavriel: oblivion. For sure one of them is getting cutting down by a lord terminos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloomkingWortwazi Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 2 hours ago, Grungnisson said: It isn't. The idea is to have a fully playable box with two Spearheads, board and terrain. That's the product. Not 'two Spearheads missing terrain, but with extra couple of minis, for a good measure'. Semantics... Point still stands, its 4 small pieces I don't want to have to pay for and most established players will already have to play a game mode. It's for people who either just want it (that is totally fine, it looks good), or people without it to play a new mode. I understand your point, it's a complete game-mode in a box. My point was I wish it was just AoS without the new mode I have to pay for and don't need. It's not that strange of a take. I'm just wishing into the breeze that I didn't have to either get less plastic in a form I want, or pay more for plastic I don't need (same cost outcome). 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ejecutor said: I don't know how deep they will go into describing characters, but it is surprising there's a section for Vedra: It feels like they are really pushing CoS into a top spot. Man Gw is begging for people to make Talhia to a breakout charcter. They artifically trying to make a Ursarkar E. Creed and shove in everyone face actually saying he single handling build the modern Crusade when she was completely against it To put CoS into a top they have stop making their settlments fodder for the big bad and subplot Edited May 17 by Dragon-knight77 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloomkingWortwazi Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 3 hours ago, RandyRyan said: What store do you use? Always looking for ways around the Australia tax Seconding The Combat Company. I mainly buy from them and Gap Games. 💓 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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