The Rumour Thread

[Jagged Red Lines]

I'd like to see new:

* spider riders

* yhetees/gorgers

* chaos marauders

* grave guard

* black knights

 

[Flippy]

5 hours ago, Ogregut said:

Skaven need the following 

Plague monks

Censor bearers

A plauge priest 

Rat ogres

Giant rats

Master moulder 

Jezzails 

Weapon teams

Globidiers 

Warlock engineer 

Gutter runners

Nightrunners 

All are either metdl, resin or completely out of dare. 

Add in a couple of new units and it's all reasonable for new edition launch; just think how many units necrons and nighthaunt. Tyranids seem to be getting a huge redo as well. 

I'll defo revisit my skaven army when they get new models. 

Judging by the Seraphon I'm almost sure that some warscrolls will simply get removed and new units will be used to replace the old ones. So, the first issue here is not "what needs replacement" but rather "what will remain".

[cyrus]

1 hour ago, RileyArlic said:

One thing I have heard is that there are a LOT of things that are 'done' from a modeling and design standpoint by GW and are just waiting for a proper window of release. IIRC Skaven is one of those. Model range is done, GW are just waiting for a good time to release them to the public.  

Have you heard anything about which clan/models will be redone ?

Edited June 9, 2023 by cyrus
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[The Lost Sigmarite]

1 hour ago, Jagged Red Lines said:

I'd like to see new:

* spider riders

Everyone forgets about the spider riders but between the sculpts that were obviously made to fit on small square bases, and the how do I put it... real life inspiration of the forest goblins being handled a little bit on the caricature side, I think a remake of the Spiderfang gobbos would be welcome. Turning them into something more creepy and deranged, yet also a bit humorous like the rest of the modern GSG range would be dope.

2 hours ago, RileyArlic said:

One thing I have heard is that there are a LOT of things that are 'done' from a modeling and design standpoint by GW and are just waiting for a proper window of release. 

It's right. A good example of that was the Castellan Crowe mini, its painter said he painted it way before its release but it stuck in limbo because GW waiting for the proper release window (and also the pandemic ****** their planning).

[The Brotherhood of Necros]

Updated classic spider riders would be so welcome. At the same time, they’re a unit that is distinctly WHFB for me. They would be very easy to AoS-ify by running with the Grot Scuttling vibe into grot spider-centaurs. If a vampire centaur is on the cards, and the Grot Scuttlings were made a thing, it doesn’t seem beyond the realms of possibility and would be another step towards keeping their AoS goblins and Old World goblins more separate.

(“Here are your familiar, old-school Forest Goblin spider riders. And here are your AoS spider grots, as comfortable in the twisted woods of Shyish as they are beneath the dank caverns of the Mortal Realms, changed by Skragrott’s twisted shroom magic into eight-legged monsters with which to better ascend the walls of the Cities of Sigmar and one day, perhaps, ensnare the Bad Moon itself in their horrible webs.”)

Who knows how they decide what stays, what goes, and what stays but gets brought kicking and screaming into the Mortal Realms?

[Draznak]

8 hours ago, Kronos said:

Agree with almost all bar the Ghouls, I think they’re a brilliant kit, and lots of build options. Lots of conversion potential. Don’t touch my Ghouls! 😂

Another Skaven kit that needs updating are the Rat Ogres. Which is bizarre because they released two stunning Rat Ogres and pacK master under Island of Blood and never released it as a separate unit. 

Exactly! I'd forgotten that the regular kit really isn't that great compared to the Island of Blood versions.

As for the ghouls, I really hesitated to put them on my list... but maybe you'll get a nice surprise with the next BT .

[Gitzdee]

8 minutes ago, The Brotherhood of Necros said:

Updated classic spider riders would be so welcome. At the same time, they’re a unit that is distinctly WHFB for me. They would be very easy to AoS-ify by running with the Grot Scuttling vibe into grot spider-centaurs. If a vampire centaur is on the cards, and the Grot Scuttlings were made a thing, it doesn’t seem beyond the realms of possibility and would be another step towards keeping their AoS goblins and Old World goblins more separate.

(“Here are your familiar, old-school Forest Goblin spider riders. And here are your AoS spider grots, as comfortable in the twisted woods of Shyish as they are beneath the dank caverns of the Mortal Realms, changed by Skragrott’s twisted shroom magic into eight-legged monsters with which to better ascend the walls of the Cities of Sigmar and one day, perhaps, ensnare the Bad Moon itself in their horrible webs.”)

Who knows how they decide what stays, what goes, and what stays but gets brought kicking and screaming into the Mortal Realms?

I think Spiderfang are small enough to be updated through Warcry. 10 Riders and maybe a new elite unit of 3 models like the Seraphon warband would be most welcome. I think the Arachnarok still looks nice enough for the time being. The Scuttleboss also really need a plastic version but i still like the charm of the current design (might be nostalgia).

If we see a proper AoS release for gitz i would rather like to see a Glareface Frazzlegitz tome including Gitmob/Grotbag units. Grotbag also really fit Ghur with the Barak-Khazzar Sky-port/ Da Moon City. Gitmob also really fit Ghur. Would really like to see something more from those 2 factions before 4.0 hits.

[KingBrodd]

19 hours ago, Ivo said:

As someone who recently had to paint Gutter Runners and Night runners but also have an ogor army.
 gluttons ironguts and leadbelchers are OK and FINE

Best focus on the other older models

They are ok but they need more dynamic posing such as Chaos Warriors got. 

Ogors are supposed to be 8-10 foot tall monsters and their size is lost in all the tucked in arms, plus the 3 foot troops all share the exact same body.

[KingBrodd]

1 hour ago, The Brotherhood of Necros said:

Updated classic spider riders would be so welcome. At the same time, they’re a unit that is distinctly WHFB for me. They would be very easy to AoS-ify by running with the Grot Scuttling vibe into grot spider-centaurs. If a vampire centaur is on the cards, and the Grot Scuttlings were made a thing, it doesn’t seem beyond the realms of possibility and would be another step towards keeping their AoS goblins and Old World goblins more separate.

(“Here are your familiar, old-school Forest Goblin spider riders. And here are your AoS spider grots, as comfortable in the twisted woods of Shyish as they are beneath the dank caverns of the Mortal Realms, changed by Skragrott’s twisted shroom magic into eight-legged monsters with which to better ascend the walls of the Cities of Sigmar and one day, perhaps, ensnare the Bad Moon itself in their horrible webs.”)

Who knows how they decide what stays, what goes, and what stays but gets brought kicking and screaming into the Mortal Realms?

SPIDER GREMLIN HAUNTS MY CHILDHOOD DREAMS!! Excellent idea mate I love it!!

[Tervindar]

I personally feel that the Ogres are fine, sure, they are a bit samey, but compared to other factions they are in a fine state. I would love to see a range refresh of Skaven first, and a second wave for FS, IJ, and IDK. 

Edited June 9, 2023 by Tervindar

[CommissarRotke]

On 6/7/2023 at 4:32 PM, The Lost Sigmarite said:

Just a little recap of Whitefang rumours :

- FEC coming later down this year with a respectably sized release
- New Cities units : handcannoneers, bombard, Sigmarite ogres, certain old kits staying
- Kurnothi in the pipeline
- New Fyreslayer units in the pipeline
- Skaven being worked on, possibly for the starter set of 4th edition

further slight rumor--apparently the KC Open did a Q&A?? the speaker alluded to “You’ll get something you guys have wanted for a long time, something I played when I first started playing Fantasy.” which OP has taken as meaning new Dark Elves.

bittersweetly, we have more from this Q&A than Warhammerfest unless I missed something...

 

[Clan's Cynic]

A new short story to go along with Harbingers.

Quote

The Dawnbringer Crusades are upon us, and Book I of the series, Harbingers, is on the horizon. Welcome to a regular series of new fiction from the Warhammer Age of Sigmar team.

At the personal decree of the God-king Sigmar, the faithful from Azyr and other bastions of order are setting out to reclaim the Mortal Realms from the forces of Chaos, Death, and Destruction. Our tale begins at the Sigmarite outpost of Greenwater, which receives a visit from one such Harbinger.

Check back next week for the latest edition of the Dawnbringer Chronicles…

 

Edited June 9, 2023 by Clan's Cynic

[EntMan]

3 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said:

“You’ll get something you guys have wanted for a long time, something I played when I first started playing Fantasy.”

I'm not sure how this hints specifically at Dark Elves. Could be them, could be Chorfs, or something else.

[Clan's Cynic]

9 minutes ago, EntMan said:

I'm not sure how this hints specifically at Dark Elves. Could be them, could be Chorfs, or something else.

Agreed. Witch Elves are now their own army and pretty much everything Dark Elves had is useable in AoS except for Bolt Throwers, Shades and Cold One Knights (although that could change depending on how much the new Cities book cuts out, if anything). 

In my mind it can only mean Chaos Dwarfs - especially since Legion of Azgroh hasn't had proper rules basically forever - or Dogs or War, which seems less likely than even Chorfs. Or maybe I've been huffing the Hopeium a bit hard. 

 

Edited June 9, 2023 by Clan's Cynic

[Ganigumo]

19 hours ago, OnTheSideOfCaution said:

Excuse me for interjecting but do we know the continued status of the new orruk stuff as per the hints by @Whitefang? Was it just the Ironjawz pig or was there more?

Just something orky alluded to, but I would be shocked if its just the big pig. I imagine it will at least be something for each of the armies if not a bit more, although I suspect the maw-grunta will be the only centerpiece. I don't expect much else from ironjawz unless they're refreshing 'ardboyz, but bonesplitterz has a ton of heroes they could refresh or add some new units to, and kruleboyz could do with a new unit or two. Maybe a cav/monstrous cav, an elite infantry unit, or some kind of beast/trogg for the breaka-boss to boss around.

[EntMan]

6 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Witch Elves are now their own army and pretty much everything Dark Elves had is useable in AoS except for Bolt Throwers, Shades and Cold One Knights

Haven't Cold One Knights just been rebranded as Drakespawn Knights and are still (at the moment) in Cities?

[EntMan]

I'm not quite sure what this means. But I'm assuming it's good and it's making me smile.

[CommissarRotke]

21 minutes ago, EntMan said:

I'm not sure how this hints specifically at Dark Elves. Could be them, could be Chorfs, or something else.

I took it as a slight confirmation bias on the OP's part, and I AM wondering if there was any contextual evidence from the speaker for that guess as well. Dude could've had a Druchii shirt on while taking questions for all we know

[Ogregut]

More dark elves are always welcome! 

Guessing the person answering the questions started with dark elves when he started playing fantasy (sensible bloke!). 

And yay for weekly fiction again! 

[Tervindar]

When do we think we will start seeing the CoS releases? hopefully the rumors about the bombard/handgunners are true. 

[Nezzhil]

1 hour ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Agreed. Witch Elves are now their own army and pretty much everything Dark Elves had is useable in AoS except for Bolt Throwers, Shades and Cold One Knights (although that could change depending on how much the new Cities book cuts out, if anything). 

In my mind it can only mean Chaos Dwarfs - especially since Legion of Azgroh hasn't had proper rules basically forever - or Dogs or War, which seems less likely than even Chorfs. Or maybe I've been huffing the Hopeium a bit hard. 

 

If the starter factions are SCE vs Skaven that means that the new faction is gonna be released before the end of the edition, that implies a small launch like World Eaters on Febraury or March. I only point that the Roadmap we have is NOT a full edition Roadmap, the edition ends between March-May

[Ledgington]

1 hour ago, Clan's Cynic said:

A new short story to go along with Harbingers.

The last Broken Realms short story was ‘The Scales of Victory’ released on July 12th, 2021 introducing the Draconith after the release of Dominion earlier that month (July 3rd). We had to wait just under two years through a quagmire of slow releases for another short fiction to be published on the community website, but now we’re here… and it feels good

[Takyz]

1 hour ago, Tervindar said:

When do we think we will start seeing the CoS releases? hopefully the rumors about the bombard/handgunners are true. 

40k will probably dominate GW releases for a couple weeks, but then the first codices are due for autumn, so that leaves at least all of July and August for other games. I don't know if we have any time-specific rumors regarding CoS, but that could be a nice spot for them.

[KingBrodd]

2 hours ago, Tervindar said:

I personally feel that the Ogres are fine, sure, they are a bit samey, but compared to other factions they are in a fine state. I would love to see a range refresh of Skaven first, and a second wave for FS, IJ, and IDK. 

They are in a fine state but 90% of the range is 20 years old. It needs updating more so than Wave 2s for some Factions in my opinion. Once we get rid of the WHFB sculpts in AOS Ill be beyond happy!!

23 minutes ago, Ledgington said:

The last Broken Realms short story was ‘The Scales of Victory’ released on July 12th, 2021 introducing the Draconith after the release of Dominion earlier that month (July 3rd). We had to wait just under two years through a quagmire of slow releases for another short fiction to be published on the community website, but now we’re here… and it feels good

I cant believe its been 2 years. Like I can but ya know 2 years of really zero narrative progress is quite mad. Damn Covid I blame you!!

[novakai]

5 hours ago, Gitzdee said:

I think Spiderfang are small enough to be updated through Warcry. 10 Riders and maybe a new elite unit of 3 models like the Seraphon warband would be most welcome. I think the Arachnarok still looks nice enough for the time being. The Scuttleboss also really need a plastic version but i still like the charm of the current design (might be nostalgia).

If we see a proper AoS release for gitz i would rather like to see a Glareface Frazzlegitz tome including Gitmob/Grotbag units. Grotbag also really fit Ghur with the Barak-Khazzar Sky-port/ Da Moon City. Gitmob also really fit Ghur. Would really like to see something more from those 2 factions before 4.0 hits.

Warcry is largely infantry base, I wouldn’t assume they do spider riders for that game as that type of kits is not very compatible with the game.

also it has not been a vehicle for updating models either way with the exception of the chamo skinks 

 

1 hour ago, CommissarRotke said:

I took it as a slight confirmation bias on the OP's part, and I AM wondering if there was any contextual evidence from the speaker for that guess as well. Dude could've had a Druchii shirt on while taking questions for all we know

Either that or the Killteam creator was a dark elf player but who knows

2 hours ago, Tervindar said:

I personally feel that the Ogres are fine, sure, they are a bit samey, but compared to other factions they are in a fine state. I would love to see a range refresh of Skaven first, and a second wave for FS, IJ, and IDK. 

they need their resin hero to be update, that probably their most pressing need as they only have 2 plastic foot hero and the hunter was a really weird sedge-way of a release for them

 

8 hours ago, Flippy said:

Judging by the Seraphon I'm almost sure that some warscrolls will simply get removed and new units will be used to replace the old ones. So, the first issue here is not "what needs replacement" but rather "what will remain".

Is possible that they not going to update everything in one go too, the release could be like the Eldar release where they update the core and some specialist units and release a few brand new ones but they left many out for future release like the remaining Phoenix lords and their special units.