DinoJon Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jetlife said: I think we can pretty much bank on whatever this is next year. I wonder if it is all new models or will some of it be upgrade sprues to exsisting models Id like to hope not to upgrade sprues. The old Empire models are really showing their age. However if upgrade sprues mean a wider range of models being released then I can get behind that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah7echo Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Asbestress said: I'm still in the mid-late Spring camp. Seems like a prime spot with nothing else taking it up (and a lot of army releases in the past were during this timeframe). I'd hope that slot would be filled with Malerions elves. Then fall for the cities update after 40k 10th. Then the following spring for the chaos dwarves before 4.0. But I'm almost certainly terribly wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Chikout said: The vibe I'm getting is a mash-up of Empire and Bretonnia with a bit of AoS weirdness thrown in. Which is funny because a lot of people bemoaned the Empire and Bretonnian models still existing in AoS as 'generic' but these are shaping up to be an even more generic fantasy DnD mashup of the average Human Fantasy Guard. Not that I'm complaining, mind you. Edited September 16, 2022 by Clan's Cynic 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarrWolves Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pariah7echo said: I'd hope that slot would be filled with Malerions elves. Then fall for the cities update after 40k 10th. Then the following spring for the chaos dwarves before 4.0. But I'm almost certainly terribly wrong. Malerion Elves should have as much teasing as Dawnbringer Crusades, if not more, so I doubt they will be released before them. To be honest I think even Chaos Dwarves will be released before Malerion Elves. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah7echo Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Just now, KarrWolves said: Malerion Elves should have as much teasing as Dawnbringer Crusades, if not more, so I doubt they will be released before them. To be honest I think even Chaos Dwarves will be released before Malerion Elves. They didn't really tease Lumineth though. And who knows we've still the Christmas rumor engine and new years teaser coming up. Could start showing them off then. Cities feels much more like a sisters where they're rebuilding a faction from the ground up. Malerion and Chaos dwarves are both basically brand new factions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, KarrWolves said: Malerion Elves should have as much teasing as Dawnbringer Crusades, if not more, so I doubt they will be released before them. To be honest I think even Chaos Dwarves will be released before Malerion Elves. I agree Chaos Duardin are showing up more and more in lore and now we have Chaos Duardin adjacent units with the Horns of Hashut. 4 minutes ago, Pariah7echo said: They didn't really tease Lumineth though. And who knows we've still the Christmas rumor engine and new years teaser coming up. Could start showing them off then. Cities feels much more like a sisters where they're rebuilding a faction from the ground up. Malerion and Chaos dwarves are both basically brand new factions. I think that COS may be the Christmas Rumour Engine calendar this year!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Public Universal Duardin Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 *barges through a crowd* Outta my way! Outta my way! They mentioned Duardin! Geedubs mentioned Duardin as part of Dawnbringers! 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Which is funny because a lot of people bemoaned the Empire and Bretonnian models still existing in AoS as 'generic' but these are shaping up to be an even more generic fantasy DnD mashup of the average Human Fantasy Guard. Not that I'm complaining, mind you. The core design of those old kits was generic but was also good. Take the that generic goodness and add some AoS weird energy and you have a range I'm very interested in. If there's not much weirdness to the range, I'm less interested. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, Flippy said: I can't wait to hear why they use these... hand cannons (?) if they have much more advanced firearms around. Could be technological regress, but then apparently they also have stuff like cogforts and do regular business with Kharadrons. I think they can still have advanced Ironweld sniper rifle and handcannons in the same range. One's for taking out a Chaos Lord via headshot from range by some Engineer or Ironweld Sergeant. The other's for taking out the ogor rapidly coming towards you, a Freeguild Handgunner/Mid-Range Pikecannoneer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xking Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 The guns are too primitive and make no ****** sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boar Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Hand cannons are awesome, Hussite inspired army here I go 😄 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 The timeline is interesting for upcoming releases. I think it really depends on when Slaves to Darkness fully release. I know it says winter, but is it pre holidays or post. If they get everything out before the holiday then I could see them dropping something else new early in 23. However, if Slaves trickles out past the new year we might be screwed. Would be nice to get something brand new in the early part of the year then again in the fall/winter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, xking said: The guns are too primitive and make no ****** sense. Which ones don't make sense? The gun pike might work something like this. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, Pariah7echo said: They didn't really tease Lumineth though. And who knows we've still the Christmas rumor engine and new years teaser coming up. Could start showing them off then. Cities feels much more like a sisters where they're rebuilding a faction from the ground up. Malerion and Chaos dwarves are both basically brand new factions. Malerion's aelves is easier to think it would be the starter faction of 4.0 than a new faction this edition. There is no hint about Malerion is coming to this edition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferban Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 So it isn't explicitly said in the article, but it sure seems to imply that Dawnbringers are going to be part of Cities of Sigmar (maybe a replacement faction like SBG for LoN?). If it is going to be a larger narrative event, maybe it just starts there and goes outward. But the implication seems to be that it will be part of Cities (maybe a sub faction or portion like Ironjawz and Kruleboyz in one tome?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ferban said: So it isn't explicitly said in the article, but it sure seems to imply that Dawnbringers are going to be part of Cities of Sigmar (maybe a replacement faction like SBG for LoN?). If it is going to be a larger narrative event, maybe it just starts there and goes outward. But the implication seems to be that it will be part of Cities (maybe a sub faction or portion like Ironjawz and Kruleboyz in one tome?). Or vice-versa and Cities are part of the Dawnbringer Crusades... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 33 minutes ago, Jetlife said: The timeline is interesting for upcoming releases. I think it really depends on when Slaves to Darkness fully release. I know it says winter, but is it pre holidays or post. If they get everything out before the holiday then I could see them dropping something else new early in 23. However, if Slaves trickles out past the new year we might be screwed. Would be nice to get something brand new in the early part of the year then again in the fall/winter The Army box is dropping this side of Christmas with the rest of the range in 2023. An early December release for the Army Box with the rest of the range late January-early Feb. 27 minutes ago, Ferban said: So it isn't explicitly said in the article, but it sure seems to imply that Dawnbringers are going to be part of Cities of Sigmar (maybe a replacement faction like SBG for LoN?). If it is going to be a larger narrative event, maybe it just starts there and goes outward. But the implication seems to be that it will be part of Cities (maybe a sub faction or portion like Ironjawz and Kruleboyz in one tome?). Think of Dawnbringers as a Sub Faction. Theyre the group of COS that strides out into the Realms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmaug Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Nezzhil said: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/09/16/dawnbringer-previews-your-first-look-at-the-arsenal-of-the-cities-of-sigmar/ Cities of Sigmar Well, perhaps we'll see some comprehensive artillery rules. Though if this release is 2 years off, it could be the launch army for AoS 4th edition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmaug Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 38 minutes ago, Chikout said: Which ones don't make sense? The gun pike might work something like this. The gun-pike in the picture has a rest on the underside. Historically those types of Arquebus were used in conjunction with a large shield or "Pavis" that the shooter stood behind. Sometimes there was a second man behind the shield who was responsible for moving the shield and reloading, or had a second arquebus 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Firaun Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Public Universal Duardin said: *barges through a crowd* Outta my way! Outta my way! They mentioned Duardin! Geedubs mentioned Duardin as part of Dawnbringers! Don’t forget that we’ve been speaking of chorfs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Public Universal Duardin said: *barges through a crowd* Outta my way! Outta my way! They mentioned Duardin! Geedubs mentioned Duardin as part of Dawnbringers! Stop PUD! It's not Chorfs! Remember Hashut! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stus67 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 35 minutes ago, Chikout said: Which ones don't make sense? The gun pike might work something like this. I think it's more so that hand-cannons like in your example and the guns they showed in the post would be technologically outdated compared to the current empire kit flintlocks by a few hundred years. It's a sort of bizarre aesthetic disconnect. My thinking is that maybe they belong to a lesser equipped unit similar to peasant troops or flagellants. That or the Dawnbreaker aesthetic will be more late-medieval and less technologically advanced than the more established free cities that we know of. I will admit though that regardless of the reason it's a bit weird seeing a cannon strapped to a stick when we know that widespread steampunk-esque technologies exist, especially in places like Greywater Fastness. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Gothmaug said: The gun-pike in the picture has a rest on the underside. Historically those types of Arquebus were used in conjunction with a large shield or "Pavis" that the shooter stood behind. Sometimes there was a second man behind the shield who was responsible for moving the shield and reloading, or had a second arquebus Excellent catch mate!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorri Nelriksson Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Public Universal Duardin said: *barges through a crowd* Outta my way! Outta my way! They mentioned Duardin! Geedubs mentioned Duardin as part of Dawnbringers! You dropped this King *extend a dwarvish crown*. I'm also excited at the idea of (at last!) having nonhumans in cities that worships Sigmar. Also...the heavy armoured arms seems to confirm we'll finally have a new full plated cavalry kit(with horses and not Demigryph). Edited September 16, 2022 by Snorri Nelriksson 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, Gothmaug said: The gun-pike in the picture has a rest on the underside. Historically those types of Arquebus were used in conjunction with a large shield or "Pavis" that the shooter stood behind. Sometimes there was a second man behind the shield who was responsible for moving the shield and reloading, or had a second arquebus OH MY GODDDD! Ironweld Jezzails! Ironweld Jezzails! IRONWELD JEZZAILS! Also, maybe this could be a special weapon for Handgunners, kinda like how Skitarii Rangers have a long rifle with a longer base. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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