zilberfrid Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, strugglewithin1 said: Firestorm games seem to be taking orders for them. They were listed as preorder until 29th July and now available to order. I think Overread listed the old Empire stuff in another thread? Not sure it makes it any easier to understand what is going on but there you go Well, I've found an ebay seller that wasn't that much more expensive than the regular set, and ordered it there. I really want that small griffin, and don't want to run the risk that I can't get it because the set has been given new plastic and ebay prices soar. EDIT: The firestorm description of the archers on Firestorm is the same as the current, down to the amount of parts and the dead orc. That does indicate the set is the same (or the description is copied from the current set). Edited July 29, 2019 by zilberfrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashendant Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) This is a good thread for me as a manager of the Lexicanum, since I'm trying to make no description or miniature image gets discontinued before I upload it in some way. Like this one. It will also help me when I start remaking the discontinued miniatures lists. Shame the Gitmob Grots were such a surprise otherwise I could have saved them for later working. Shouldn't this have a list of model that were also discontinued? Chaos lord of Slaanesh on foot and mount, Gitmob Grots range, and the Poisoned wind mortar? Edited July 29, 2019 by Ashendant 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbanks Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Here’s a list for you. All of these Order models are metal or resin: Spellweaver Swordmasters Waystrider Waywatcher Warrior Priest Witch Hunter These kits only build 1 thing: Black Ark Corsairs Demigryph Knights Dragon Blades Drakespawn Knights Dwarf Warriors Flagellants Freeguild Archers Freeguild Greatswords Phoenix Guard White Lions Corsairs and P Guard fit into two of the Free Cities (Anvilgard and Phoenicium) without issue, so I don’t think that’s an indication of getting cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azamar Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Fairbanks said: Here’s a list for you. All of these Order models are metal or resin: Spellweaver Swordmasters Waystrider Waywatcher Warrior Priest Witch Hunter These kits only build 1 thing: Black Ark Corsairs Demigryph Knights Dragon Blades Drakespawn Knights Dwarf Warriors Flagellants Freeguild Archers Freeguild Greatswords Phoenix Guard White Lions Corsairs and P Guard fit into two of the Free Cities (Anvilgard and Phoenicium) without issue, so I don’t think that’s an indication of getting cut. Phoenix Guard and Greatswords both had models displayed alongside the book at the open day (plus there’s a greatsword on the cover) so they seem pretty safe. And Scourge Privateers were mentioned in the announcement article I think, which would suggest corsairs are in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 I dont really think plastics will be in danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmac Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, Thiagoma said: I dont really think plastics will be in danger. I think some of them could be, not because of the material, but just because the combined book is a golden opportunity for GW to get rid of models they are already planning to remove/replace down the road. I think most of the Free People stuff is relatively safe though, the mish-mash of Aelven units less so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbanks Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 It strikes me that the people who really want a few of these boxes to disappear are the same people who wanted Tomb Kings and Bretonnia removed from the GHB. I look forward to their disappointment. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) From the elven plastics i think very few models are outdated, other than the Spire of Dawn models, that should go away. Order Draconis, Eldritch Council, (minus Swordmasters), Phoenix Temple (except Anointed on foot finecast version), Swifthawks have few models outside of Spire of Dawn , and Shadow Warrior was on Display. Lion Rangers are kinda out of Scale. Wanderers have a lot of Resin heroes, and glade guard are a bit out of scale. From Dark Elves, i think the whole range is plastic. Edited July 29, 2019 by Thiagoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytoy Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 had a mini heart-attack thinking archers were discontinued, but they're still available online. must just be a reboxing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, Boytoy said: had a mini heart-attack thinking archers were discontinued, but they're still available online. must just be a reboxing Says no longer avaiable for delivery on the "Worldwide" delivery option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytoy Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 well i just ordered some in case they do get squatted! would be a real shame, they're the best kit for creating peasants and poor foot soldiers that gw still sells. if they ever made a re-designed militia kit with the same level of modularity as the old one, they might as well start printing money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Boytoy said: well i just ordered some in case they do get squatted! would be a real shame, they're the best kit for creating peasants and poor foot soldiers that gw still sells. if they ever made a re-designed militia kit with the same level of modularity as the old one, they might as well start printing money I would like a few bucklers and one handed (longer than dagger) weapons for every archer. With buckler and sword, they are almost exactly the i:33 plates. That would make for quite a nice militia option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamose Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 22 hours ago, zilberfrid said: The General on Horse is no longer available online... I wanted to purchase him this morning, and he was available, but the "add to cart" button did not work on mobile, and now he's unavailable. If this guy gets phased out, I would be really disappointed, even if he just got changed, I would be really disappointed. I wouldn't worry about the general on his steed for a couple reasons. First, he's a requirement for one of the new mercenary companies in the GHB 2019. Secondly, he's still available online here (US). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EccentricCircle Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Kamose said: I wouldn't worry about the general on his steed for a couple reasons. First, he's a requirement for one of the new mercenary companies in the GHB 2019. Secondly, he's still available online here (US). Regions can be tricky/ misleading. In theory the UK store is the definitive one, since it is more or less shipped straight from the factory. Being available in the US just means that the remaining stock is selling out at different rates in different regions, and so is still available in some areas. It can also be the other way around, if things sell out faster abroad than they have in the UK. Thus we can "see whats coming" a bit by looking at the other regions. It was clear that the Archers and Freeguild general were endangered a few days ahead of them selling out in the UK, since they were already listed as unavailable in a couple of regions. We can thus see what other models are at risk, even though they might still be in stock locally. What none of this tells us is whether things are just going to be reboxed and brought back later. Thus the General likely isn't actually gone for good, since as you say he leads some mercs. However we don't know whether he's being rereleased with round bases, repackaged in a different combination, replaced with a newer model which won't have the same plethora of options as the current one, or just phased out for good. Its thus quite alarming that this all happens with no actual communication. I get that they don't want to tell us that for example archers are no longer going to be supported, as then they would be less likely to sell their remaining stock, but it does come across as a bit disingenuous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Bleakswords/dreadspears/darkshards/drakespawn knights and witch hunter/flagellants are out of stock, but temporarily, so those would not worry me. That actually is a better sign than available. If they are available, you never know whether they get "no longer available" as their next status, while temporarily out of stoch states you can expect to see them return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) Full List: USA - Out of Stock - Wildwood Rangers/Eternal Guard - Executioners/ Black Guard - Free Guild General - Unforged - Flagelants USA - No Longer Avaiable - White Lions - Dragon Noble - Glade Guard - Canon/Organ Gun - Volkmar the Grim on War Altar of Sigmar UK - Out of Stock - Witch Hunter - Flagelants - Drakespawn Knights - Bleakswords/Drakspears/Darkshards UK - No longer avaiable - White Lions - Free Guild General - Free Guild Archers Worldwide - Out of Stock - Witch Hunter - Flagelants - Drakespawn Knights - Bleakswords/Drakspears/Darkshards Worldwide - No longer avaiable - White Lions - Free Guild General - Free Guild Archers Edited July 30, 2019 by Thiagoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Thiagoma said: Full List: USA - Out of Stock - Wildwood Rangers/Eternal Guard - Executioners/ Black Guard - Free Guild General - Unforged - Flagelants USA - No Longer Avaiable - White Lions - Dragon Noble - Glade Guard - Canon/Organ Gun - Volkmar the Grim on War Altar of Sigmar UK - Out of Stock - Witch Hunter - Flagelants - Drakespawn Knights - Bleakswords/Drakspears/Darkshards UK - No longer avaiable - White Lions - Free Guild General - Free Guild Archers Worldwide - Out of Stock - Witch Hunter - Flagelants - Drakespawn Knights - Bleakswords/Drakspears/Darkshards Worldwide - No longer avaiable - White Lions - Free Guild General - Free Guild Archers It's odd that the general is temp out of stock in US, but no longer available worldwide and UK. Cannon/organ gun, glade guard and war altar no longer available in US might be telling, dragon noble is odd for no longer linking to the warscroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zadolix Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Cannons and organ guns are not getting discontinued. We only just got rules for mercs in GHB19 remember? GW will announce and give us time to order so I don't think we need to panic buy anything at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakin Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Zadolix said: Cannons and organ guns are not getting discontinued. We only just got rules for mercs in GHB19 remember? GW will announce and give us time to order so I don't think we need to panic buy anything at the moment. Weren't some of the Imperial Guard (e.g. Vostroyans) removed without warning? (i.e. no Last Chance to Buy option) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, zilberfrid said: It's odd that the general is temp out of stock in US, but no longer available worldwide and UK. Cannon/organ gun, glade guard and war altar no longer available in US might be telling, dragon noble is odd for no longer linking to the warscroll. The warscroll has been missing for a long time., but if you google it up it shows up on GW site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zadolix Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Kyriakin said: Weren't some of the Imperial Guard (e.g. Vostroyans) removed without warning? (i.e. no Last Chance to Buy option) That's separate game system with separate team done a long long time ago. I wouldn't say its relevant now. Plus they've assured us they will us what won't make it into the book. Edited July 30, 2019 by Zadolix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakin Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Zadolix said: That's separate game system with separate team done a long long time ago. I wouldn't say its relevant now. Plus they've assured us they will us what won't make it into the book. It was last June, lol. Not that long ago... Edited July 30, 2019 by Kyriakin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 But as @Zadolix said, this time GW said they will warn us beforehand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Thiagoma said: The warscroll has been missing for a long time., but if you google it up it shows up on GW site. Ah thanks! I was puzzled by that, and thought it might be a sign. Carry on then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graftonianman Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I have no doubt that white lions are going. What a shame: they are an iconic fantasy unit I remember from when I got into this game. That’s what I get for never painting them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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