BarakUrbaz Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, bethebee said: ok guys, good work making a big stink today. now they'll HAVE to reveal something juicy. Quick, if we all complain enough they'll reveal the Chorf trailer! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Kim Woof-Woof Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I was half-expecting the Chaos Warshrine to bite the dust in this cull. It doesn't really fit with the new Darkoath style, and it's gotta be one of the few Slaves to Darkness kits left that was inherited from Fantasy Battle. But, then, it's not in the Warriors of Chaos list for Old World. So... ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cofaxest Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Am I wrong or BoC shamans will be part of StD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarakUrbaz Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) 14 minutes ago, cofaxest said: Am I wrong or BoC shamans will be part of StD? I don't think you can get Bray-Shamans outside of the Vanguard which is on the list. EDIT: Thunderstrike Brotherhood is on Last Chance to Buy in the webstore despite not being on the list of discontinued products. I mean, they'd have to do something about the Lord Relictor because he's on the same sprue as the oldtype Retributors and Prosecutors (Vandus Hammerhand at least has a seperate sprue). Edited April 5 by BarakUrbaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Kim Woof-Woof Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 16 minutes ago, cofaxest said: Am I wrong or BoC shamans will be part of StD? I doubt it. But I did notice that in the Old World photos they've used the old metal Shamans. Which is odd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloomkingWortwazi Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, Big Kim Woof-Woof said: I doubt it. But I did notice that in the Old World photos they've used the old metal Shamans. Which is odd. They generally try not to tip their hand with media (printed or otherwise), though they do goof up from time to time. Might have just been a decision to keep things "safe". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 5 hours ago, Dragon-knight77 said: oh for reference of the SE cut 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 5 hours ago, GloomkingWortwazi said: So stuff we know is going hasn't been marked as "last chance to buy" (at least on AU store), regardless of TOW re-use or not (e.g. Orcs). However, these 4 have as mentioned earlier in the thread... kinda weird they weren't noted on the list as well? vs They didn't throw the full list to avoid someone putting their HQ on fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 4 hours ago, Vaellas said: Interesting for Hammerhal to get rules for Aventuis in Cities then he gets removed. Perhaps he too gets a new model. Or he could die on the Siege and get a retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 3 hours ago, GloomkingWortwazi said: I guess it's just taking a while to trickle the changes through to the frontend and to each of the regions. Cache related, probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, Big Kim Woof-Woof said: I was half-expecting the Chaos Warshrine to bite the dust in this cull. It doesn't really fit with the new Darkoath style, and it's gotta be one of the few Slaves to Darkness kits left that was inherited from Fantasy Battle. But, then, it's not in the Warriors of Chaos list for Old World. So... ?? It has another 3 years of life as max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Sad day for Beastmen, Bonnesplitterz, SCE players and anyone that follows the hobby. The only thing I can understand about all of this is that GW didn't have any plan for their minaitures and/or loyalty program for their clients. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 "The SC will not survive the end of the edition". Say goodbye to Vandus and the Relictor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davariel Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Wow. This was a much more brutal culling than I expected, and anyone who's spent hours and hours of love on their armies that are now getting discontinued has my sympathy (I've been there, several times!). I will say that this is a really bad look for AoS. Some uncertainty around the model ranges was understandable after the messy launch, and there was certainly a grace period where GW could get away with discontinuing stuff as they tried to figure out what they were doing. However, it's taken AoS way, way too long to "find its feet" and decide what it wants to keep. Around the point everything was covered by a battletome and had received at least minor support (which was late 2nd I think?) they really needed to commit to supporting armies long term (with perhaps an exception for unique cases like Cities). Pulling a move like this - especially with the relatively recent Sacrosanct - is pretty terrible for maintaining confidence in the product line and encouraging long term investment in armies. Whether or not that will amount to anything... who knows (probably not). But I do think it's both unhealthy and highly discouraging for AoS to still be conducting major purges this far into its lifespan. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 6 hours ago, Baron I_oyd said: Wait when CoS wave 2 hits and other things this edition..its just start At least the memes have helped lighten the mood. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) 4 hours ago, Hollow said: Probably gonna get some blow back from this but I smell a whole lot of faux outrage online. I bet 90% of the people screaming to the high rafters don't even own a single of these kits or play them. Yes, we're actually paid actors. What I find sad about your comment is that it basically tells me you find incomprehensible that people would be upset by this, so you must find another explanation (they must have an ulterior motive). I have spent the evening reassuring the two new AoS players of our club in our discord. They both have a stormcast army built via the stormbringer (EDIT: no, it's Mortal Realms) magazine (so, mostly if not all Sacrosanct if I understand correctly). I told them that nobody at the club would have a problem playing them, that they will be able to proxy their minis for other/new stuff, and that even our tournament community is likely to be fine with it. They were still shaken and sad at the end, so, while I am able to rationalize all this, it's still a bad day and it has drained a lot of my energy and enthusiasm for the game. Edited April 5 by Marcvs 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 4 minutes ago, Marcvs said: Yes, we're actually paid actors. What I find sad about your comment is that it basically tells me you find incomprehensible that people would be upset by this, so you must find another explanation (they must have an ulterior motive). I have spent the evening reassuring the two new AoS players of our club in our discord. They both have a stormcast army built via the stormbringer magazine (so, mostly if not all Sacrosanct if I understand correctly). I told them that nobody at the club would have a problem playing them, that they will be able to proxy their minis for other/new stuff, and that even our tournament community is likely to be fine with it. They were still shaken and sad at the end, so, while I am able to rationalize all this, it's still a bad day and it has drained a lot of my energy and enthusiasm for the game. Maybe you mean the Mortal Realms magazine? Stormbringer one doesn't have any trimmed-down model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 3 hours ago, Hollow said: Probably gonna get some blow back from this but I smell a whole lot of faux outrage online. I bet 90% of the people screaming to the high rafters don't even own a single of these kits or play them. Recognizing that something is wrong even if you are not personally affected is the essence of morality. Not sure what point you are making here. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 6 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: Maybe you mean the Mortal Realms magazine? Stormbringer one doesn't have any trimmed-down model. Yes it must be that! I have never bought them myself so I don't know the denomination of the magazines. It's the one which gave you lots of souls wars stuff basically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuriel Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 15 hours ago, Chikout said: Maybe the answer is to keep the old models playable for much longer. They promised to balance the older factions for a year. Why not the whole edition or indeed forever? They can definitely afford to hire a couple more people to the rules team. Doing balance updates for the legacy factions could be part of the training. Exactly. This is the way. Legends like battletomes and codices for a, well "legacy" ie no longer on sale faction. Updated once in a edition. With warlord traits, artefacts, special rules, subfactions, battle formations and whatever will be relevant in the current edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaRegis Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 The five people who play Bonesplittaz will be devastated at this news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Garrac Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Wait, let me get this right. So The Old World doesn't have savage orcs... and now neither does Age of Sigmar? What the hell are going to do savage orc only players now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaRegis Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 IMO Bonesplittaz have had it coming for a long time. they are an old launch army that was cobled together from Orcs and Goblins, they have a minimal to zero prescene in the current lore, and I have never actually seen or faced a Bonesplittaz army since ive been playing the game in 2018. The OG Stormcast getting binned is understandable as they are probally all getting refreshed into Thunderstrike and to trim down the massive amount of heroes they have. I like that SCE have a tonne of Heores as it fits the lore and theme of the ary, but lets be honest, most are prettu useless. The Sacrosacnt stuff being binned is bizzare though. unless they have plans to bring out a couple of mages and some fully update the range to thunderstrike i can't really see a reason except for "we have production issues and the SCE range is massive, lets scrap this chamber to cull the range a bit". GW will dress it up as a lore reason but its first and formost a buissness desicion. Beastmen were always going to get transfered over when they were announced for the Old World, but i don't think they will fully disapear from AOS. They will probaly return as a detachment for chaos armies like god marked and some undivided Beastmen in a few years time. They have enough prescence in the lore that disapearing them Stalin style would just be wierd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 6 hours ago, Whitefang said: never say never, cuz things sometimes get positively weird 1. Bonesplitterz did a fusion ritual with Beasts to become wereboars(goats?). 2. Bonesplitterz get into haute couture 3. Gors turn into proxygors (too soon?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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