Freypal Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Of all my AoS armies I reckon Sylvaneth are in a really sweet spot for model and unit variety. Petty much everything has a use and there's not too much overlap. Nor are there any glaring gaps in battlefield roles. You can realistically collect all the models without going bankrupt and then you're able to actually play all of them. As to next year... I'm excited to see what they do with cities mainly but also intrigued to see if anything new comes for seraphon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, xking said: Anybody want to guess what's going to be released the first half of next year? The slaves to darkness minis, a big update for flesh Eater courts, cities of Sigmar and a couple of single hero battletomes- I’d love to see a big update for Gitz but I’m worried they might be getting the single hero treatment along with KO. Edit- also the new season of war with a big spider incarnate, two more warcry boxes and another Underworlds box set. I'm banking on the first 6 months of 2023 being as good as 2021. Edited November 12, 2022 by Chikout 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 47 minutes ago, Chikout said: The slaves to darkness minis, a big update for flesh Eater courts, cities of Sigmar and a couple of single hero battletomes- I’d love to see a big update for Gitz but I’m worried they might be getting the single hero treatment along with KO. Edit- also the new season of war with a big spider incarnate, two more warcry boxes and another Underworlds box set. I'm banking on the first 6 months of 2023 being as good as 2021. With a Gitz Wave 2 this would be incredible. Im also hoping for 6 months of chock a block AOS like 21'!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, EntMan said: I've lost track, which factions haven't had a 3.0 Tome yet? I think I'd rule out Cities for first half of next year, think they'll drag it out for longer. There are a few that always struck in my mind (Gitz, Beasts and Hedonites) but otherwise I tend to forget too. Looking at GW's website these still need Battletomes: Order: Cities of Sigmar, KO, Seraphon. Chaos: Beasts of Chaos, Blades of Khorne, Hedonites of Slaanesh. Death: Flesh Eater Courts, Ossiarch Bonereapers, Soulblight Gravelords. Destruction: Gloomspite Gitz. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Freypal said: Of all my AoS armies I reckon Sylvaneth are in a really sweet spot for model and unit variety. Petty much everything has a use and there's not too much overlap. Nor are there any glaring gaps in battlefield roles. You can realistically collect all the models without going bankrupt and then you're able to actually play all of them. As to next year... I'm excited to see what they do with cities mainly but also intrigued to see if anything new comes for seraphon. The numbers GW released regarding list diversity definitely benefit from some background knowledge. Some smaller armies like OBR and Fyreslayers look good numbers wise, but have historically only had a very limited amount of build options and are often unable to play a mixed arms list that actually looks like an army. On the other hand, some bottom performers such as Gravelords and Cities have had very diverse lists, and often high diversity within a single list. Gravelords in particular is a faction where right after release people were saying that basically all units have a place. It's just that they also have kits like the mortis engine which builds three warscrolls, two of which are kinda borderline in terms of usefulness. But it just does not matter, because who really cares whether you call your ghost throne a Bloodseeker Palanquin or a Coven Throne at the end of the day? It's good that GW care about internal balance and have a metric they are using as a goal. It's just a metric with limited usefulness when it is not backed by more in-depth game knowledge (which luckily, the AoS designers are showing they have with their recent metawatch articles and interviews). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, JerekKruger said: There are a few that always struck in my mind (Gitz, Beasts and Hedonites) but otherwise I tend to forget too. Looking at GW's website these still need Battletomes: Order: Cities of Sigmar, KO, Seraphon. Chaos: Beasts of Chaos, Blades of Khorne, Hedonites of Slaanesh. Death: Flesh Eater Courts, Ossiarch Bonereapers, Soulblight Gravelords. Destruction: Gloomspite Gitz. COS is basically confirmed for next year and there are quite a few FEC rumour engines so they too may be getting a refresh. There are 1 or 2 KO REs so Im worried they may be a single model release. Really hoping FEC, Seraphon, BOC, Khorne and Gloomspite all get significant releases. Slaneesh I think will get the single model treatment alongside Soulblight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: Slaneesh I think will get the single model treatment alongside Soulblight. Yeah, I think this is probably right. For Hedonites I think that's fine: they have a great and mostly modern range and just need a Battletome that doesn't suck. It's mostly fine for Soulblight too, though a refresh of the Graveguard would be really nice. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatforce Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, JerekKruger said: Yeah, I think this is probably right. For Hedonites I think that's fine: they have a great and mostly modern range and just need a Battletome that doesn't suck. It's mostly fine for Soulblight too, though a refresh of the Graveguard would be really nice. Personally I want a modern remake of the Vamp on Abyssal Terror. But I suspect a new SB Hero would be a Vampire Lord on Horseback, maybe tuned to have synergy with cav like the new Chaos Lord on steed and Kharkadrak rule, though not necessarily functioning exactly the same. I would really like it if the SB is a Sylvaneth style release though, remaking the Grave Guard and maybe adding a new unit alongside the new hero, but wouldn't be put out if it wasn't, as SB are in a decent place model-wise. Hedonites are in a good position and again for a hero I think all they need is a mounted fighty character (unfortunately I doubt they will bring back the old-school boobsnakes). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, Goatforce said: Personally I want a modern remake of the Vamp on Abyssal Terror. But I suspect a new SB Hero would be a Vampire Lord on Horseback, maybe tuned to have synergy with cav like the new Chaos Lord on steed and Kharkadrak rule, though not necessarily functioning exactly the same. I would really like it if the SB is a Sylvaneth style release though, remaking the Grave Guard and maybe adding a new unit alongside the new hero, but wouldn't be put out if it wasn't, as SB are in a decent place model-wise. Hedonites are in a good position and again for a hero I think all they need is a mounted fighty character (unfortunately I doubt they will bring back the old-school boobsnakes). Fingers crossed for new Grave Guard, though! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 47 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: There are 1 or 2 KO REs so Im worried they may be a single model release. What were the KO REs? (I expect I saw them and thought they were Squats) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Fingers crossed for new Grave Guard, though! Also would love a full unit/kit for Vyrkos bloodborn. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Vasshpit said: Also would love a full unit/kit for Vyrkos bloodborn. Plus some better rules for them too! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Anyone has any rumours at all? Dont mind if it is not a reliable source. At least it is something to talk about XD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draznak Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, Gitzdee said: Anyone has any rumours at all? Dont mind if it is not a reliable source. At least it is something to talk about XD. The problem is that there are no AoS rumors at the moment while we know everything that will be released for 40k until next summer. Ok there will be COS but 1) not for now and 2) we have no idea of their release date. And other than that, it's just guesses (Gloomspite, etc). Although we can start thinking about FEC with recent reactions from Whitefang. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) @Gitzdee There's just the one that's been on my mind (cant even recall where I read it) about a new rule coming that foot heros will be untargetable while near a unit or something. THAT got me excited AF! Edited November 12, 2022 by Vasshpit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 If the Underworlds FEC is anything to go by then their overhaul will be great!! Reallllly wished I'd of picked them up before they were removed. 😔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 28 minutes ago, Draznak said: Ok there will be COS but 1) not for now and 2) we have no idea of their release date. And other than that, it's just guesses (Gloomspite, etc). Although we can start thinking about FEC with recent reactions from Whitefang. For what it's worth, some Whitefang reactions to Cities of Sigmar posts seem pretty specific. That could mean they might come out sooner than we expect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draznak Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 38 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: For what it's worth, some Whitefang reactions to Cities of Sigmar posts seem pretty specific. That could mean they might come out sooner than we expect. About timeline ? By Sigmar, i missed that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Red Lines Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 My guess is Gitz and Beasts of Chaos for early next year. Cities for reveal at Warhammer Fest, along with Old World. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Draznak said: The problem is that there are no AoS rumors at the moment while we know everything that will be released for 40k until next summer. Ok there will be COS but 1) not for now and 2) we have no idea of their release date. And other than that, it's just guesses (Gloomspite, etc). Although we can start thinking about FEC with recent reactions from Whitefang. 6 hours ago, KingBrodd said: COS is basically confirmed for next year and there are quite a few FEC rumour engines so they too may be getting a refresh. There are 1 or 2 KO REs so Im worried they may be a single model release. Really hoping FEC, Seraphon, BOC, Khorne and Gloomspite all get significant releases. Slaneesh I think will get the single model treatment alongside Soulblight. @Whitefang reacting to these 2 posts!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnkdth Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Big DBC/CoS and then HoS/FEC/BoC/BoK get low effort updates with no new models. Followed by a bigger OBR/Seraphon second wave (in whatever order). GW forgets entirely about Gitz till 4th edition. Chorfs gets legended again (because why not). 😅 Insert some random warcry stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnoVampire Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 8 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Fingers crossed for new Grave Guard, though! I feel like they’ve been teasing us with the various other new skeleton kits; deathrattle, cursed city, underworlds, gnarlwood. It would be great if they update the classic and beloved grave guard to give them new models to match their warscroll. They’re my current most desired unit for an update 🤞 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnoVampire Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, TechnoVampire said: I feel like they’ve been teasing us with the various other new skeleton kits; deathrattle, cursed city, underworlds, gnarlwood. It would be great if they update the classic and beloved grave guard to give them new models to match their warscroll. They’re my current most desired unit for an update 🤞 10 versions of this please: 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Rumor say expect disappointment reality also say expect disappointment though 40K does have a lot of neat stuff if rumors are true lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Early than expected FEC and CoS sounds good to me. Throw in a wave for Spiderfang and im happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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