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Feel sad for the BoC and BS players, really horrible news. I actually own quite a few beastmen from WHFB days and I'd considered re-basing them onto rounds, glad I didn't now... As someone who got into Stormcast with the Soulwars box I'm pretty gutted about the Sacrosanct deletion. In any fantasy setting I've always been drawn to the Warrior/Mage hybrid / Paladin archetype. In any MMORPG I've played that's what I've been drawn to for example. The Sacrosanct models gave me a way of playing out that interest on the tabletop. I understand I can proxy my Sequitors as Liberators but to me that's not the point as I've lost the narrative/playstyle that interested me. I wouldn't have minded if they'd said they were slimming down the range of Sacrosanct and updating them to Thunderstrike. It's the fact that archetype is now completely gone from the tabletop. Sad times.

I thought the reverse might also be true. Take Fyreslayers with loads of heros and only a few unit choices. Will each hero unlock a single unit type...?

There were these ones which are listed on the wiki as being 6e; Not sure if they ended up being repackaged bugmans rangers though as they look similar? I remember these being sold in blisters of 3 back in the day!

Ah I didn't realise they were built from quarrellers too. I remember there being a bespoke kit in 6th for rangers. I think they were metal? I guess these won't be coming back then like the metal longbeards. Really looking forward to getting the arcane tome and diving into the lore for this period. I'm hoping it will delve into the different holds and what they're up to in this period.

Not sure if I'd missed it but I couldn't see rangers talked about in the warcom article? Have they been slated for a re-release do we know?

Sounds like a fantastic idea for some more stories!

I do wonder if there will be some follow-on from the Hamilcar novel here.

I've been finding I'm accepting AoS more for what it is since diving into ToW. Dwarfs have always been my go to and they were my main fantasy army back when I played in 6th edition. I've been trying to find that same love for dwarfs in AoS since starting it but I just couldn't. I really like the fyreslayers but always craved the classic look and whilst the Dispossessed are cool, they've never been enough to standalone. Now I have my classic Dwarf army/fix back, I can enjoy what AoS "does" offer rather than focus on what it "doesn't" offer.

Stunning 😍

Two new heros look really nice. Battalion box seems a solid start. Excited to grab some of the returning kits. The warboss on wyvern in particular.

Got a notification this morning that the books are due to be delivered today. Excited to dive into all the lore and start theory crafting! Do we have any idea what time or in what format the next army announcement will be in? I'm guessing it will appear on warcom as an article at some point rather than a stream?

Croneseer model is very cool - giving me similar "menacing" vibes to Ushoran. GW really hitting the mark with these big centrepieces recently.

I think this is an interesting topic... Will they all get the same amount of love and new toys as the "launch factions" or are some going to be like a lot of AoS armies where they just get a single updated hero (as per dwarf rumour?) I guess we will find out soon!

I kinda hope the O&G and Dwarf release is staggered as I played both of these back in the day and still have my old collections. I don't want to (or my wallet doesn't want to) buy two large boxes at the same time / in quick succession 😄 Seems like a lot of the Dwarf range was fairly new so it will be interesting to see what gets updated or if it is just the rumoured shield-born lord. O&G rumour was the wyvern and pump wagon wasn't it?

I guess this is more what I meant with regards the underwold mobs, you're proxying them in for existing models or filling out specific small slots. I'm not familiar with the Ogor and Seraphon ranges but I did see the Flameseekers seemed better for FS. So maybe if this is the direction for Warcry to make them more cross compatible with AoS then it would work.

I expect this to be the case too and fully understand why logistically it has to be so. It's just a bit of a shame though. For games like AoS and 40k it doesn't really matter if there is a staggered release as you can buy existing models and play with either an Index or the old Codex/Tome. I guess this is why people would prefer it to be a quicker drop for ToW. It's nice all the faction rules have dropped up front though

I personally don't really care about the warbands as I find them too niche/specific. I've never bought any of them. I'd rather they just release a proper kit which has more utility and flexibility.

Agree with this feeling... I got into Stormcast with the Soul Wars box and was pretty keen to build on the sacrosanct theme. Love a bit of the magic using tank / paladin theme. Then Dominion came and whilst I do genuinely prefer the slimcast models, it left me feeling like I couldn't really be bothered with them. I have a massive pile of unassembled Stormcast I've acquired through things like Stormbringer magazine and I just can't bring myself to even open them. I was recently thinking I might well pass on the 4e launch box which would be the first time I've done so on a launch box. I really want to get into my Fyreslayers more. Just need a few more options for visual variety...

I kinda like the old metal wyvern and his characterful grinning face 😁

+1 - I'd love to have ToW and AoS both covered here!

It's been done a few times to smaller degrees. They did it with Gotrek; Gotrek vs the Mortal Realms - Warhammer Community (warhammer-community.com) They also did it with the new Avatar of Khaine for 40k

Wouldn't be shocked to see BoC removed. Struck me as odd that they were the only faction to be 100% compatible with both AoS and ToW rather than just on legacy ToW support. I wonder if a limited selection of units might get souped into other chaos AoS armies

From the perspective of playing my sylvaneth I'd happily see faction terrain removed... I really disliked having to lug the massive fragile wyldwood sets around... 😂

Edit: double post

Wow seeing these side by side is quite a contrast! The new one is so much better and more dynamic. Shame it's locked behind getting to a store.