AoS 2 - Flesh-eater Courts Discussion

[Dorn Jr 1]

New to AoS & FEC ghoul kit question: All the extra arms and heads are just for variety sake right? Ive never put together a kit that had almost an additional set of them and it's got me a little paranoid that I'm missing something in the details?

Thanks in advance. 

Edited July 31, 2020 by Dorn Jr

[ZLee Syn 43]

8 hours ago, Dorn Jr said:

New to AoS & FEC ghoul kit question: All the extra arms and heads are just for variety sake right? Ive never put together a kit that had almost an additional set of them and it's got me a little paranoid that I'm missing something in the details?

Thanks in advance. 

Yes. Just variety. This kit is back from 7tsh edition of warhammer fantasy and so there is alot of options. Same as skeletons, graveguard... 

It is limited by the amount of legs/torsos but for example set of 10 skeletons have ~22 heads and ~15 torsos in it if I remember correctly.

 

 

One variety is the leading model. That is the only thing you need to pay atention to. One unit can have only one so if you plan on using them with biger numbers in a unit, plan numbers of leaders acordingly.

Edited July 31, 2020 by ZLee Syn

[Esarhaddon 0]

Fellow emperors and kings, here's my first crack at FEC 2000 as a new player...

 

LEADERS
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (420) - General

Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (420)

Crypt Ghast Courtier (60)

UNITS

20 x Crypt Ghouls (200)

20 x Crypt Ghouls (200)

6 x Crypt Flayers (340)

BEHEMOTHS

Royal Terrorgheist (300) 

ENDLESS SPELLS / TERRAIN / COMMAND POINTS

Chalice of Ushoran (50)

This comes out to 1990. Any opinions or thoughts on things I should consider? I figure I want to be pretty aggro so does the Charnel Throne even make sense? 

[Nixon 149]

Im also new to FEC, so I'm probably not the best to give advice. But I think you are right about the Throne. 

Also consider why you are bringing so many Ghouls and not Flayers? 

Take a look at Blisterskin / Deadwatch and see what you think. 

[El Antiguo Guardián 109]

16 hours ago, Esarhaddon said:

Fellow emperors and kings, here's my first crack at FEC 2000 as a new player...

 

LEADERS
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (420) - General

Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (420)

Crypt Ghast Courtier (60)

UNITS

20 x Crypt Ghouls (200)

20 x Crypt Ghouls (200)

6 x Crypt Flayers (340)

BEHEMOTHS

Royal Terrorgheist (300) 

ENDLESS SPELLS / TERRAIN / COMMAND POINTS

Chalice of Ushoran (50)

This comes out to 1990. Any opinions or thoughts on things I should consider? I figure I want to be pretty aggro so does the Charnel Throne even make sense? 

Throne is free so you need it.

Terrorgheist heroes need the gruesome bite in order to amortize their points. So you need battalions. 

Also, you have an offensive army, so you need less drops.

[Btimmy 22]

Quick question: does anyone know the rule for returning slain models into combat/daisy chaining them to pull other units in? I have seen people mention an FAQ on this matter but I cannot seem to locate it. 

[velveetagamerfuel 0]

Noob here.  I wanna start FEC but i can’t decide between Morgaunt or Blisterskin.  I feel like both are pretty good but what are people’s thoughts on them?

[Great Bray Tom 8]

16 hours ago, Btimmy said:

Quick question: does anyone know the rule for returning slain models into combat/daisy chaining them to pull other units in? I have seen people mention an FAQ on this matter but I cannot seem to locate it. 

Unfortunately you can not return models within 3 inch of an enemy unit you weren’t already in combat with. 

[Gdead909 70]

6 hours ago, velveetagamerfuel said:

Noob here.  I wanna start FEC but i can’t decide between Morgaunt or Blisterskin.  I feel like both are pretty good but what are people’s thoughts on them?

Blisterkin is more competitive. Haven’t seen a lot of morgaunt lists doing well

[Beer & Pretzels Gamer 110]

4 hours ago, Gdead909 said:

Blisterkin is more competitive

Sincerely hoping so.  About to start an Escalation League vs Orruk Warclans and Ogor Mawtribes with a Blisterkin based FEC list.  (I’ve already run Gristelgore and really hoping to expand my FEC opportunity set.  Think challenge will be not reverting to a “Blistergore” style list (i.e. going heavy on the RTs or RZDs).  We’re starting at 1K and growing by 250 pts each round.  Guessing from get go will be facing a Mawkrusha or a Frostlord on Stonehorn so any thoughts or advice greatly appreciated.

[Bademeister 63]

1K Point List could be something like:

Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts
- Grand Court: Court of Delusion - The Feast Day

Leaders
Crypt Infernal Courtier (120)
- General
- Command Trait: Dark Acolyte 
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (420)
- Artefact: The Grim Garland 
- Lore of Madness: Deranged Transformation
- Mount Trait: Gruesome Bite

Battleline
6 x Crypt Flayers (340)
10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)

Total: 980 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 54
 

You got a free 2nd attack each turn, Flayers and Terrorgheist Screams are much harder because of the -2 Bravery. 10 Ghouls as screen for your TG and Flayer. Growing your list with a Archregent and some more Flayers

[velveetagamerfuel 0]

14 hours ago, Gdead909 said:

Blisterkin is more competitive. Haven’t seen a lot of morgaunt lists doing well

What would you take to do a ghoul spam list then?  Would it just be like, blisterskin but using a battalion like ghoul patrol or king’s ghouls?

[Gdead909 70]

48 minutes ago, velveetagamerfuel said:

What would you take to do a ghoul spam list then?  Would it just be like, blisterskin but using a battalion like ghoul patrol or king’s ghouls?

So right now my ghoul list are feast day lists
 

Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts
- Grand Court: Court of Delusion - The Feast Day

Leaders
Abhorrant Archregent (240)
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (420)
Crypt Haunter Courtier (120)
- General
- Command Trait: Dark Acolyte  
- Artefact: The Flayed Pennant  
Crypt Ghast Courtier (60)

Battleline
40 x Crypt Ghouls (360)
40 x Crypt Ghouls (360)
3 x Crypt Horrors (130)

Units
1 x Corpse Cart (80)

Battalions
King's Ghouls (120)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Chalice of Ushoran (50)
Extra Command Point (50)

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 129
 

 

 

[velveetagamerfuel 0]

43 minutes ago, Gdead909 said:

So right now my ghoul list are feast day lists
 

Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts
- Grand Court: Court of Delusion - The Feast Day

Leaders
Abhorrant Archregent (240)
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (420)
Crypt Haunter Courtier (120)
- General
- Command Trait: Dark Acolyte  
- Artefact: The Flayed Pennant  
Crypt Ghast Courtier (60)

Battleline
40 x Crypt Ghouls (360)
40 x Crypt Ghouls (360)
3 x Crypt Horrors (130)

Units
1 x Corpse Cart (80)

Battalions
King's Ghouls (120)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Chalice of Ushoran (50)
Extra Command Point (50)

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 129
 

 

 

Cool thanks!  Im guessing the corpse cart is there for +1 to cast?

[Gdead909 70]

Ya +1 to cast is a huge benefit 

[Liquidsteel 37]

What's the general consensus on mounted kings in Royal Family?

 

Is it legal to take 3 mounted kings or are you limited to one? Is it a case of RAW vs RAI, considering the FAQ the Charnel Throne received?

 

I'm sure it's been discussed before, however I'm on mobile and searching is hard.

 

[Honk 669]

24 minutes ago, Liquidsteel said:

 

What's the general consensus on mounted kings in Royal Family?

 

That it is a sad oversight and taking two extra Kings on foot and 120points is pretty hefty price for only one extra dice during mustering... gotta find slots and points for those courtiers too

(maybe a morgaunt ghoul spam list, but meeeh...)

[Liquidsteel 37]

Reason I ask is it came up on a Twitter thread with a list containing 3 mounted kings. People saying it's legal as the mounts are subheadings/subtitles?

[Honk 669]

8 hours ago, Liquidsteel said:

People saying it's legal as the mounts are subheadings/subtitles?

You can argue the case, but I wouldn’t.

The wording/typing is in line with the „ruler of all he Surveys“ from the charnel throne and they made it pretty clear in the faq that sadly the abhorrent Ghoulking is a walker not a rider

[Maddpainting 336]

Anyone have a good video that goes over FeC for a new FeC player? Just picked up a full army for next to nothing as a painting project but I also want to play them while I am painting.

[hughwyeth 1,119]

On 8/7/2020 at 6:39 AM, Honk said:

You can argue the case, but I wouldn’t.

The wording/typing is in line with the „ruler of all he Surveys“ from the charnel throne and they made it pretty clear in the faq that sadly the abhorrent Ghoulking is a walker not a rider

I believe it is now legal as the GH20 explicitly states you can ignore subheading on warscrolls when building battalions. So the interpretation is any ghoul king, mounted or not, is legal.

[hughwyeth 1,119]

On 8/3/2020 at 4:39 PM, Gdead909 said:

So right now my ghoul list are feast day lists
 

Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts
- Grand Court: Court of Delusion - The Feast Day

Leaders
Abhorrant Archregent (240)
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Terrorgheist (420)
Crypt Haunter Courtier (120)
- General
- Command Trait: Dark Acolyte  
- Artefact: The Flayed Pennant  
Crypt Ghast Courtier (60)

Battleline
40 x Crypt Ghouls (360)
40 x Crypt Ghouls (360)
3 x Crypt Horrors (130)

Units
1 x Corpse Cart (80)

Battalions
King's Ghouls (120)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Chalice of Ushoran (50)
Extra Command Point (50)

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 129
 

 

 

Shouldn't you have another artefact as you've got a battalion? Dermal robe on the AR for +2?

[Tropical Ghost General 450]

So how are people finding the new battleplans using stuff like leaders, battleline & behemoths to score objectives, bearing in mind that due to the FAQ summoned units don't get a battlefield role and Gristlegore takes away the behemoth keyword from our non GK beasts?

Is there any tricks and tips that people have found useful?

[Gdead909 70]

2 hours ago, hughwyeth said:

Shouldn't you have another artefact as you've got a battalion? Dermal robe on the AR for +2?

Ya the second artefact I haven’t decided on. I used the flayed pennant but felt kind of like a waste

[Gdead909 70]

19 minutes ago, Tropical Ghost General said:

So how are people finding the new battleplans using stuff like leaders, battleline & behemoths to score objectives, bearing in mind that due to the FAQ summoned units don't get a battlefield role and Gristlegore takes away the behemoth keyword from our non GK beasts?

Is there any tricks and tips that people have found useful?

Ya I played the new better part of valor. This one can only be scored by battleline and then you burn it. It definitely felt bad that I couldn’t summon ghouls on to his back objectives and take them.