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I think this can only be considered a win for everyone. Creates two new power dynamics for a bunch of factions that haven’t received much love. Gives a greater sense of direction as to where they can expand with other Non-Souped factions while still letting players with legacy armies to play at a competitive level and get excited for their armies. Regarding the topic of humans, this by no means to invalidates future human releases, it actually helps as now they won’t have to content with or step on the toes of a freeguild standalone faction.

They very well still could, and this actually goes a long way in enabling that. This way players who have existing armies can field a viable army and GW can expand human factions whichever way they want without it conflict with Freeguild.

Was that confirmed? Don’t give me hope

Damn not what I wanted but holy moly didnt expect these. Very awesome.

Omg please

Are the 4 battletomes coming supposed to be full releases (DoK/Gloomspite style) or just 2.0 Battletome revamps (BoC/FEC style)? I think that would help narrowing down what’s coming. Factions that I think could get full releases: - Wanderers - Gutbusters - Soulblight - Ironjawz - Dispossessed And factions I expect to just get the revamp treatment: - Beastclaw Raiders - Seraphon - Slaves to Darkness/Everchosen - Bonesplitterz - Disciples of Tzeentch

Hoping for: - 2 Battletomes either teased or previewed, just so we have a rough idea of what’s coming. - 3 Underworlds war bands and the starter set - More lore expansion

Any updates on this @EMMachine?

Hoping for Beastclaw Raiders, Slaves To Darkness, New Death and Wanderers

Thoughts on plastic Fimir or Kroot getting potted into AoS?

So that’s amazing

They also allow people to fill out their armies and theme to lore friendly guides. Imagine in ten years that the Corvus Cabal have developed into fully realized faction with deep lore.

Very excited for warcry, Corvus Cabal taking the top spot for me, followed by Splintered Fangs then Iron Golems. Untamed beasts fall at the bottom imo.

Can we not do the Stormcast vs Marines thing in the rumour thread? It’s been done to death. How long until the war cry reveal happens?

Just on the Games Workshop store page, both units are found in the gutbusters section

When did Firebellies and Maneaters get folded into Gutbusers?

Some of the aelven factions really could get squatted or folded into grouped up factions. Wanderers and Scourge Privateers could support their own books and have the most defined lore I think. Phoenix Temple and Swifhawk Agents could be combined into one book as well. Eldritch Council, Order Draconis and Lion Rangers could do with being combined into the Hyde army with certain units being squatted. Same goes for Order Serpentis, Darkling Covens and Shadowblades all going to Ulgu.

Wanderers vs Beastclaw Raiders would be a dream come true.

Wanderers actually have a deceptively large pool of units to choose from, that could easily be expanded into a massive faction. They could just get the endless spell treatment, but I’m gonna wish list here and assume they get the DoK/Gloomspite treatment. They already have: HEROES - Nomad Prince - Spellweaver - Wayfinder - Waywatcher - Waystrider TROOPS - Glade Guard - Eternal Guard - Sisters of The Watch - Wildwood Rangers - Sisters of The Thorn - Wildriders So they have small support heroes covered and basic troops, with lots of ranged units and some fast movers. They lack really powerful spellcasters, some hard hitters and have no behemoths. Assuming they get the full large release treatment, I’d like to see: - Kurnoth, Consort of The Everqueen: Powerful general, strong in melee with good magic and support skills. Large, centerpiece model type unit (Marathi, Alarielle etc) - Prince on Wendigo: Large behemoth unit, aimed to give them some firepower. Visually I imagine it as large, ape like in shape with a noble antlered head. Multiple rider options that can be use independently. When ridden by the prince it’s a support/beat stick. - Spellweaver on Wendigo: See above. Adds magic to the model in exchange for the melee profile. - Waywatcher on Wendigo: See above. Ranged version of the Wendigo, with a sniper on its back. - Wendigo: The Wendigo model without any riders. Cheapest option, simple beatstick. - War Riders: Units of three. Heavy cavalry, melee focused. Fast moving hammers. Heavily armed Wanderers riding giant Hares. - Ley Guardians: Ranged build of the War Riders. Riders have bows, fast moving and powerful shots. Come in and out of play easily. - The Repentant: Units of five. Wanderers who have taken the realmstone (Seeds) of the realm of life into the selves as penance for their ancestors betrayal of Alarielle. This awakens their inner beast, turning them into savage half monsters (think werewolves but less specific). Quick, strong but most importantly good rend capabilities. Endless Spells (these are rough, could be reworked but just a general idea.) - Ley Hawk: Healing endless spell. Giant hawk made from the energy of the Ley Lines. - Wild Gate: Two gateways made of vines and earth. Allows them to teleport. - Sacred Earth: A blockade spell. Pretty simple. Terrain Feature Waystone: A joining point of Ley Lines. As the game goes on more Ley Lines are activated, increasing the stones reach. Adds buffs and is a support source, also increases magical effectiveness. So that’s 4 kits, a terrain feature and endless spells, which doesn’t seem to crazy at all. But it’s adding 8 units (and bringing 2 existing units plastic models.)

A soulblight faction would be awesome, maybe have a combination of plastic Vampire Lord and either Bat Swarms/Fell Bats BCR with a Plastic Icebrow Hunter and 2 Frost Sabers would be a must have

Neglected Daughters of Khaine?

There’s models that could easily fit into existing armies and would actually help fill some slots/add variation. Magma Dragon = Fyreslayers Merwyrm = Idoneth or Scourge Privateers Dread Maw = Gutbusters Carmine Dragon = One of the Aelf factions or Legions of Nagash Basilisk = Order Serpentis

A revived Wanderers book focusing on them following Kurnoth would be awesome.

Ghur personally. The idea of a realm actively resenting civilization, that pushes its inhabitants to the most savage and ruthless they can be.

Just compiling the factions without an army or potential areas for GW to expand based on lore hints I’ve come up with: - Darkoath (probably going to be fused with Slaves to Darkness) - Grotbag Scuttlers - Cogmen - New Death based around the freed ally of Nagash - Grugni’s new secret Dwarven project being forged in Chamon - Individual Aelf factions for Tyrion, Teclis and Malerion. Thats a lot of room for expansion in the future.