Warhammer: The Old World News and Rumours Thread

[Tonhel]

1 hour ago, Ejecutor said:

This would all depend on the supposed "war" between main and specialist teams. If this is true, they won't be able to go with the legacy armies, so something brand new is a safer bet.

Ofcourse those legacy armies will come, probably not in 2025 or 2026, but they will come. Lol, they can't avoide undead or even daemons forever. Undead / Skaven and etc.. are essential for Warhammer. It will take a while, but they will come.

[Sarouan]

3 hours ago, Asbestress said:

Having watched the video, I'm pretty confident Cathay could be coming, although I might be a bit biased

I don't need to watch any Valrak video to know Cathay will be coming. I mean, the team already said so in previous interviews and it's litterally present in the core rulebook's background. Just like Kislev. It's just a matter of time, and that's why these "rumors" he talks about are basically making a prophecy about rain coming in the future (if you don't tell the day, you will always be right 100%). He has no one working at GW as a trusted source about that. You don't need one : you just need to read what already exist, watch previous official info on Internet and make extrapolation of what already exists in Total War Warhammer 3 (GW worked with CA on the units, y'know, of course they would use some for the miniature wargame).

To show you how easy it is, here is one rumor from my "trusted source" : Kislev will have an Army of Infamy allowing to take 0-1 unit of Tzar Guard as core choice. Watch for this and look how much I will be right about it in the future.
 

Edited April 15 by Sarouan

[cyrus]

6 hours ago, Baron I_oyd said:

Greatings warriors of Old World,

the first models coming for Great Empire of Cathay are:

Light infantry- spears and crossbows

Heavy infantry- swords/halberds and shields

Heavy and light cavalry

Hero - general riding longma horse

Special character-  One of the dragon children- similar kit to Morathi from AoS- human and dragon form

Special units:  Terracotta sentinel and Sky Lantern

 

“Laugh” react from Whitefang to this post : we can probably discard it as a rumours.

[Ejecutor]

Another Valrak fail? 😄

[Vomikron]

Does Cathay really make sense though? Seems odd for them to be fighting in the Old World and then all of a sudden disappear completely. I guess you could make the argument that they were much like the real world early Ming dynasty around Zheng He’s time and were jetsetting around the world, and once the later Ming dynasty equivalent took over they destroyed their fleet and became isolationists. Well, I guess I just talked myself into it making sense.

[Segersgia]

7 hours ago, Vomikron said:

Does Cathay really make sense though? Seems odd for them to be fighting in the Old World and then all of a sudden disappear completely. I guess you could make the argument that they were much like the real world early Ming dynasty around Zheng He’s time and were jetsetting around the world, and once the later Ming dynasty equivalent took over they destroyed their fleet and became isolationists. Well, I guess I just talked myself into it making sense.

Trade between the Old World and Cathay is still happening in this age, and they do send army forces to escort those trade caravans through the Dark Lands.

[Beliman]

31 minutes ago, Segersgia said:

Trade between the Old World and Cathay is still happening in this age, and they do send army forces to escort those trade caravans through the Dark Lands.

They can  write whatever they want to make Cathay an active player. It will not be the first time they retcon things.

[Tonhel]

9 hours ago, Ejecutor said:

Another Valrak fail? 😄

Another? As others has posted he rumours aren't wrong when gets info from his trusted source.

Anyway Cathay or not.. there is other stuff I would love to see first.

[Tonhel]

3 minutes ago, Beliman said:

They can  write whatever they want to make Cathay an active player. It will not be the first time they retcon things.

If TOW is in a couple of years still succesful they can retcon the End Times. 😉

[Ejecutor]

6 minutes ago, Tonhel said:

If TOW is in a couple of years still succesful they can retcon the End Times. 😉

Nah. That's the only no-no from GW's. They even reference it in the core book.

[JackStreicher]

7 minutes ago, Tonhel said:

If TOW is in a couple of years still succesful they can retcon the End Times. 😉

🙄

[JerekKruger]

1 minute ago, Ejecutor said:

Nah. That's the only no-no from GW's. They even reference it in the core book.

Yup. They aren't going to rush messing up the story that established AoS.

[Sarouan]

No, but they can retcon other things to release corresponding miniatures. They'll already do it with the Goblin Hewer, since it was mentionned in the preview it will come back with the dwarven hold release. It was originally made during the Storm of Chaos events, meaning much later than The Old World setting. They'll certainly write something like it's actually older and used by Karak Kadrin armies for centuries or whatever.

Some may argue some things like the Steam Tanks were already put way sooner than they should have been.

While the Throne of Decay "rumor" linking it with TWW3 dlc sales is honestly stupid, I can totally see GW releasing some of their miniatures back in line like Bile Trolls, Skin Wolves, Plague Toads and Plague Ogres for the future Chaos release and its arcane journal. Though so far, they seem pretty tame with FW releases...they're more focused on releasing old GW / Citadel miniatures. I'm expecting an old Chaos Citadel unit as regiment of renown, personnally...

[Beliman]

41 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Nah. That's the only no-no from GW's. They even reference it in the core book.

Unless they retcon the whole Karl Franz era: The Great War against chaos will be the nu'End Times!! BOOM

[Ejecutor]

10 minutes ago, Sarouan said:

No, but they can retcon other things to release corresponding miniatures. They'll already do it with the Goblin Hewer, since it was mentionned in the preview it will come back with the dwarven hold release. It was originally made during the Storm of Chaos events, meaning much later than The Old World setting. They'll certainly write something like it's actually older and used by Karak Kadrin armies for centuries or whatever.

Some may argue some things like the Steam Tanks were already put way sooner than they should have been.

While the Throne of Decay "rumor" linking it with TWW3 dlc sales is honestly stupid, I can totally see GW releasing some of their miniatures back in line like Bile Trolls, Skin Wolves, Plague Toads and Plague Ogres for the future Chaos release and its arcane journal. Though so far, they seem pretty tame with FW releases...they're more focused on releasing old GW / Citadel miniatures. I'm expecting an old Chaos Citadel unit as regiment of renown, personnally...

In terms of minis I don't think a recton is needed, They can release a mini without having to have a lore explanation. Especially if they are old minis.

[Sarouan]

1 minute ago, Beliman said:

Unless they retcon the whole Karl Franz era: The Great War against chaos will be the nu'End Times!! BOOM

They can also release old metal Karl Franz on griffin and call it "generic empire general".

Though for the Empire, I'm honestly expecting them to release the old engineer chariot and maybe the famous "boat on wheels". They'd be quite fitting in a artillery Army of Infamy.

[Sarouan]

Just now, Ejecutor said:

In terms of minis I don't think a recton is needed, They can release a mini without having to have a lore explanation. Especially if they are old minis.

All of the units have a small lore explanation next to their profiles at the very least. GW will definitely write something about it.

[Gotz]

1 hour ago, Sarouan said:

They can also release old metal Karl Franz on griffin and call it "generic empire general".

Though for the Empire, I'm honestly expecting them to release the old engineer chariot and maybe the famous "boat on wheels". They'd be quite fitting in a artillery Army of Infamy.

I think they could release a retooled resin version of the Elector count on griffon

and then release the old Karl Franz as metal made to order (I have high hopes for them to release halfling stuff as made to order too).

 They decided not to release Azagh or Gorbad, that are really cool minis and could work as generic warbosses and instead retooled the older warboss on wyvern.

as of forgeworld stuff... I'm pretty sure they'll release the empire comand group, but I really have doubts about the rest. If they release the marienburg class landship it would be awesome. They're adding stuff to the arcane journals that wasn't on the index books, so I still believe! XD

[Skreech Verminking]

I mean if they are getting some inspiration from the newest total war warhammer dlc releasing at some point, we might see a new model for the sorcery lady from nuln.

considering that she is considered quit old for a human its possible she lived during the current time line we have

[Skreech Verminking]

2 hours ago, Tonhel said:

If TOW is in a couple of years still succesful they can retcon the End Times. 😉

I mean maybe not retcon it but I could see them doing a 360 turn towards the war against the maggot king event 

[Tonhel]

39 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:

I mean maybe not retcon it but I could see them doing a 360 turn towards the war against the maggot king event 

Exactly. 🙂

Also why I believe the legacy factions will come back sooner than later (after all the core factions got their Arcane journals and after halflings (I am convinced we will see the Moot 🙂 ))is because GW is just letting money slip through their fingers. Currently it seems that the community just plays legacy factions as they were core. My friend, who will be my main opponent for TOW is building a VC army.

But most importantly, as that is the most visible part is that for tournaments legacy factions are also played and they are frequently played.

So imo, after the Arcane journals and a campaign book, legacy factions wil get attention. Ofcourse this is only wishlisting from my part. But GW loves money, their shareholders love money and its clear that there is money to be made with releasing old stuff. So it would be absurd that they wouldn't open the vaults and start selling old VC and etc stuff... . It's a smaller investment than releasing a Cathay range. 😉

[Ejecutor]

6 minutes ago, Tonhel said:

Exactly. 🙂

Also why I believe the legacy factions will come back sooner than later (after all the core factions got their Arcane journals and after halflings (I am convinced we will see the Moot 🙂 ))is because GW is just letting money slip through their fingers. Currently it seems that the community just plays legacy factions as they were core. My friend, who will be my main opponent for TOW is building a VC army.

But most importantly, as that is the most visible part is that for tournaments legacy factions are also played and they are frequently played.

So imo, after the Arcane journals and a campaign book, legacy factions wil get attention. Ofcourse this is only wishlisting from my part. But GW loves money, their shareholders love money and its clear that there is money to be made with releasing old stuff. So it would be absurd that they wouldn't open the vaults and start selling old VC and etc stuff... . It's a smaller investment than releasing a Cathay range. 😉

GW still owns a lot of old moulds and we know they at least hold still moulds for the core factions, but is there a confirmation from GW that they also have a decent amount of moulds from the legacy factions (thinking they will presumably release older stuff than the ones we have in AoS now)?

[Sarouan]

1 hour ago, Skreech Verminking said:

I mean maybe not retcon it but I could see them doing a 360 turn towards the war against the maggot king event 

I doubt it, because the Throne of Decay events involve heavily the Chaos Dwarves. It's more than just releasing a few Chaos resin miniatures, it also means you release the full Chaos Dwarves army as well.

[Nezzhil]

Valrak with ToW would believe anything that says that something bad would happen to AoS. I will be very cautious with something related to new factions or legend factions right now.

[Nezzhil]

36 minutes ago, Tonhel said:

Exactly. 🙂

Also why I believe the legacy factions will come back sooner than later (after all the core factions got their Arcane journals and after halflings (I am convinced we will see the Moot 🙂 ))is because GW is just letting money slip through their fingers. Currently it seems that the community just plays legacy factions as they were core. My friend, who will be my main opponent for TOW is building a VC army.

But most importantly, as that is the most visible part is that for tournaments legacy factions are also played and they are frequently played.

So imo, after the Arcane journals and a campaign book, legacy factions wil get attention. Ofcourse this is only wishlisting from my part. But GW loves money, their shareholders love money and its clear that there is money to be made with releasing old stuff. So it would be absurd that they wouldn't open the vaults and start selling old VC and etc stuff... . It's a smaller investment than releasing a Cathay range. 😉

Sorry, but this is the same as the "Kurnothi return in a big wave". The return of Legacy soon than later implies that all the work they are doing right now will be delayed or removed from the pipeline. They must be working in the 5-6 year of the game right now.
I say always the same, saying multiple times something would not make that true, it is like Spanish community claiming for the translation of the Core Book, because they are making noise doesn't mean it could happen because, the only we know it is that the translation was not in the pipeline, and GW works always in a longterm plan.

It is not true that is a smaller invest than a new faction because we don't know the state of the old molds. People is thinking that Old World is cheap and they don't know the reality, it is only their perception.