The Rumour Thread

[Ejecutor]

5 hours ago, MitGas said:

Now you‘re just being unrealistic. 😂 They got new armor styles a couple of years ago that‘s pretty recent in 40k terms, I figure the next big thing is them going back to the helmet style that started with mk5 (the one with a grill in the middle/vader-esque) as that is the definite look of SMs in most people‘s eyes. 
 

The new DA models are really nice but about as exciting as opening a package of batteries for non-DA collectors. Yeah, yeah, I‘m repenting for being blunt. At least it‘s not Space Wolves!

Am I? Stormcast got quite a big armour change and I think the overall consensus is positive. Why fearing giving a step to break Spaces Marines monotony? I think it wouldn't be that bad. And imo users that buy Marines won't complain that much and would get used to it.

[KingBrodd]

1 hour ago, The Lost Sigmarite said:

I really hope tomorrow is an AoS reveal and not something Old World. We're the main fantasy game, we deserve to go first.

We do, but unfortunately itll be Old World, we may have to wait till New Years. You know, save the best till last and all that. 😉

[BarakUrbaz]

5 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Am I? Stormcast got quite a big armour change and I think the overall consensus is positive. Why fearing giving a step to break Spaces Marines monotony? I think it wouldn't be that bad. And imo users that buy Marines won't complain that much and would get used to it.

A lot of people complain about not liking the Primaris redesign and preferring the old armour "because it looks more grimdark and gothic" or whatever. Personally I'm of the belief that Space Marine armour peaked with beakies; if I was a Space Marine player I'd seriously consider just doing an army of the Horus Heresy MK6 sculpts. 

The thing is Stormcast haven't really been around long enough for people to get super nostalgic for the OG Liberators and whatnot.

Edited December 25, 2023 by BarakUrbaz

[The Red King]

31 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Am I? Stormcast got quite a big armour change and I think the overall consensus is positive. Why fearing giving a step to break Spaces Marines monotony? I think it wouldn't be that bad. And imo users that buy Marines won't complain that much and would get used to it.

Are you suggesting they need to primaris the primaris (taking up every other potential army update or new release AGAIN) and that would somehow make the space marine fatigue BETTER? 

[michu]

I am not a fan of ScE redesign and quite nostalgic for OG Liberators. New ScE do not look better than old ones. Creativity doesn't have to mean "completely different aesthetic" (this last complaint is more about CoS).

Edited December 25, 2023 by michu

[GhostShark]

1 hour ago, Ejecutor said:

Am I? Stormcast got quite a big armour change and I think the overall consensus is positive. Why fearing giving a step to break Spaces Marines monotony? I think it wouldn't be that bad. And imo users that buy Marines won't complain that much and would get used to it.

They literally JUST did this a  few years ago. In fact, they're still in the middle of their huge ongoing Space Marine refresh. And by all accounts its been hugely successful. Why would they stop that now to do something new?

[Souleater]

Personal preference and all that, but If GW want to go back to past designs, I wouldn’t say no to these style of paint pots. Far superior. 
 

I dislike dropper bottles.

[GhostShark]

1 minute ago, Souleater said:

Personal preference and all that, but If GW want to go back to past designs, I wouldn’t say no to these style of paint pots. Far superior. 
 

I dislike dropper bottles.

God yes.

[Neverchosen]

54 minutes ago, michu said:

I am not a fan of ScE redesign and quite nostalgic for OG Liberators. New ScE do not look better than old ones. Creativity doesn't have to mean "completely different aesthetic" (this last complaint is more about CoS).

I am a bit of an odd duck as I like the old designs and love the new ones. But I am particularly a fan of seeing them side by side. I wish the old style had a better save and less mobility to differentiate the aethetics in terms of gameplay. 

In all fairness I only have a unit of sequitors, castigators, longstrike raptors and two heroes. But they look cool mixed in with the rest of the army.

I feel like an ancient order of angelic immortals having generations of different weapons and Armour to represent the period they were reforged.

Edited December 25, 2023 by Neverchosen

[Cataphract]

Have some leaks?

 

https://imgur.com/a/Onh5C3d

 

Edited December 25, 2023 by Cataphract

[ScionOfOssia]

3 minutes ago, Cataphract said:

Have some leaks?

 

https://imgur.com/a/Onh5C3d

 

Those were posted on Reddit yesterday and were responded to by WhiteFang with “lol, lmao”.

[RetconnedLegion]

2 hours ago, Ejecutor said:

Am I? Stormcast got quite a big armour change and I think the overall consensus is positive. Why fearing giving a step to break Spaces Marines monotony? I think it wouldn't be that bad. And imo users that buy Marines won't complain that much and would get used to it.

You must’ve have missed the wailing and gnashing of teeth that went on when the 2nd edition of Horus Heresy was announced with mk VI as the core kit. And that was for an existing, established design.

[Ejecutor]

2 hours ago, The Red King said:

Are you suggesting they need to primaris the primaris (taking up every other potential army update or new release AGAIN) and that would somehow make the space marine fatigue BETTER? 

If the change is "drastically" different and people like it, why not? We had MK-1, 2.... X. Why not go for the next number?

[Ejecutor]

1 hour ago, GhostShark said:

They literally JUST did this a  few years ago. In fact, they're still in the middle of their huge ongoing Space Marine refresh. And by all accounts its been hugely successful. Why would they stop that now to do something new?

My point is about moving into something completely different. Primaris to me is like if the new Stormcast would have used the old aesthetic with the new proportions. There's not a big change if they would have done this. In the end, technology progress, so why wouldn't that be visible in the armour? That's where my suggestion about moving into a completely new one comes from.

[KingBrodd]

My feeling knowing I have another Year moderating the best community in the world.

I love you all. Be safe. You Godbeasts one and All.

[Ejecutor]

39 minutes ago, Cataphract said:

Have some leaks?

 

https://imgur.com/a/Onh5C3d

 

 

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lol, lmao

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[Ejecutor]

29 minutes ago, RetconnedLegion said:

You must’ve have missed the wailing and gnashing of teeth that went on when the 2nd edition of Horus Heresy was announced with mk VI as the core kit. And that was for an existing, established design.

Yeah, I am not following 30k/40k that much. Just a personal opinion. I guess, seeing the feedback to my idea, that Space Marines users are happy buying the same armour sculpt over and over.

[pnkdth]

5 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Yeah, I am not following 30k/40k that much. Just a personal opinion. I guess, seeing the feedback to my idea, that Space Marines users are happy buying the same armour sculpt over and over.

It is very difficult to reinvent an established setting. Especially when lots of people are sitting on pretty big collections now. They've gradually introduced different kinds of armour (gravis, phobos, etc) in addition to the primaris stuff (and they're probably not done as far that goes either). Doing something more extreme would risk alienating a huge part of their customers and the design of the marines is extremely recognisable. I do not think GW would ever risk something like that unless something drastic happens. 

They'd be better off expanding Custodes/Grey Knights line. Alternatively, have the adeptus mechanicus invent some new spicy teetering on the brink of tech heresy robotic marines. 

[MitGas]

4 hours ago, Ejecutor said:

Am I? Stormcast got quite a big armour change and I think the overall consensus is positive. Why fearing giving a step to break Spaces Marines monotony? I think it wouldn't be that bad. And imo users that buy Marines won't complain that much and would get used to it.

With SM being their bestsellers, I don‘t think they want to stray far from the current model(s) they got going on. Sure, SM players would gladly get more marines (they already do though) but they will not be very creative in their redesigns. If I owned GW and SM sold better than anything else, I wouldn‘t mess with that formula either. If anything, I‘d bring back old design cues in the new size/armor design and go full-circle… 

[MitGas]

1 hour ago, Ejecutor said:

If the change is "drastically" different and people like it, why not? We had MK-1, 2.... X. Why not go for the next number?

I think you misjudge how slowly SM armor got changed in the past, the different armor styles only got available thanks to Forgeworld. We had the last tactical squad before the Primaris for more or less something like 15 years. Back when it came out it was the single most impressive plastic kit in wargaming and it‘s still the look of SMs, Primaris are still just the „new“ thing to many fans. And they got a ton of new variants with them as well. Something more creative than those redesigns is unlikely for now I bet. But even better, cause so many other forces need attention anyways and they can release chapter-specific stuff for easy money. I‘d rather see more SCE than SMs although I‘d like to see lots of other stuff before either of them. But I‘ll say this: the basic marine design won‘t change too much for a looooong time, the Primaris were the big change for SMs.

[DoctorPerils]

2 hours ago, Ejecutor said:

Yeah, I am not following 30k/40k that much. Just a personal opinion. I guess, seeing the feedback to my idea, that Space Marines users are happy buying the same armour sculpt over and over.

Well, they aren't the same armour sculpt over and over, they have quite a few details that differ, between unit types and chapters, and also between eras (40k and 30k). And the creation of the Primaris waves are exactly what you've been arguing for, what you are asking for is something that GW has been doing for the last 7 years. Whole new scale, whole new armour variants (all mkX: tacticus, gravis, phobos, omnis), whole new philosophy in how the codex is organised (from 5 or 6 basic unit types with many options, to ... lots of very specialised units with very few options).

 

You seem to be under the impression space marines are still the same old faction they were 10 years ago, but the Primaris have actually had profound effects already, and they still haven't fully replaced the old range. And they are also, still, profoundly divisive - many space marine players still refuse to acknowledge them so many years later.

[Ejecutor]

20 minutes ago, DoctorPerils said:

Well, they aren't the same armour sculpt over and over, they have quite a few details that differ, between unit types and chapters, and also between eras (40k and 30k). And the creation of the Primaris waves are exactly what you've been arguing for, what you are asking for is something that GW has been doing for the last 7 years. Whole new scale, whole new armour variants (all mkX: tacticus, gravis, phobos, omnis), whole new philosophy in how the codex is organised (from 5 or 6 basic unit types with many options, to ... lots of very specialised units with very few options).

You seem to be under the impression space marines are still the same old faction they were 10 years ago, but the Primaris have actually had profound effects already, and they still haven't fully replaced the old range. And they are also, still, profoundly divisive - many space marine players still refuse to acknowledge them so many years later.

It is really nice to see all those details changing over time and that progress is visible. My opinion was more on the visual side of the Space Marine. For me, the change has not been that big, but it is interesting to see how others think completely the opposite. In fact, I wouldn't have thought it was an armour upgrade until now that I've seen all the responses. I saw it more as a result of the sculpt technology advances, but in the end, if all of you who enjoy Space Marines are happy with this, I am happy too 😃

[Luperci]

5 hours ago, Souleater said:

Personal preference and all that, but If GW want to go back to past designs, I wouldn’t say no to these style of paint pots. Far superior. 
 

I dislike dropper bottles.

I beg for any paint pot lid that doesn't do what current GW lids do

[MitGas]

1 hour ago, Ejecutor said:

It is really nice to see all those details changing over time and that progress is visible. My opinion was more on the visual side of the Space Marine. For me, the change has not been that big, but it is interesting to see how others think completely the opposite. In fact, I wouldn't have thought it was an armour upgrade until now that I've seen all the responses. I saw it more as a result of the sculpt technology advances, but in the end, if all of you who enjoy Space Marines are happy with this, I am happy too 😃

No, you are absolutely right; the changes were not exactly groundbreaking or big - what we mean is that a big change wouldn‘t likely go down well with marine players. It‘s too big a risk as the design IS 40k and people like it, so there is little incentive to stray far from it. And marines got a whole lot more diverse in the last few years on top of it…. Would something really new be cool? Most likely! But perhaps GW should be creative with other factions. I got no personal skin in the game, Chaos SM use archaic armor anyways, so I‘d be for more creativity in the SM range but I think we all know SM players… at least the ones online already really had a hard time accepting Primaris at first! 😂 Imagine now a really different design, they‘d riot! 

[lele]

7 hours ago, Cataphract said:

Have some leaks?

 

https://imgur.com/a/Onh5C3d

 

AOS main hub? .Non sense