EntMan Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, KingBrodd said: We've had the Necroquake and Era of the Beast so Im wondering what Chaotic Theme 4.0 will be about? Industry maybe? Skaven and Chaos Duardin machinations running amuk, who can stop these mechanical monstrosities? Out step the Gholemkind with a Kharadron Wave 2. My suggestion (because obviously GW haven't decided yet, and want my opinion) is for next edition move to Chamon and enter the Era of the War Machine. Would suit Skaven, Chorfs, new Cities, Goblins, various dwarves including Dispossessed refresh. 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 This editon has proven one thing. They understand that older factions are worth going back and revamping. This is something I think we weren’t sure of heading into 3.0. Seraphon, Slaves 2 Darkness, Cities, Flesh Eater and can even throw in Ironjawz. Heck, Nighthaunt, Sylvaneth, sons of behmat and Gloomspite even got some legit additions. I definitely think the trend will continue into 4.0 with Skaven, Beasts of Chaos and Ogres. Good chance we will see Tyrion and Malerion as well. Exciting times! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDM Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jetlife said: I definitely think the trend will continue into 4.0 with Skaven, Beasts of Chaos and Ogres. Good chance we will see Tyrion and Malerion as well. Exciting times! For me this is all 4.0 needs. Big range refresh Skaven, beasts and ogors. Tyrion with Lumineth 3rd wave and Malerion with Umbraneth 1st wave. The darkling covens revolt in the cities and are expelled, joining Malerion, and replaced with CoS wave 2 which would be a few units of city aelves, these are the remnants of loyal Aelves from wanderers, phoenix guard etc. On top of this and before chaos dwaves it any new faction I'd like to see second waves for FS, KO, ID and OBR 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) So according to a thread on Bolter and Chainsword, GW are putting up prices in October ☹️ Possibly for LGS rather than retail prices, but it might I guess impact on the discounts independents can offer. On the bright side I no longer have a pile of shame, I have a wise future-proofed stockpile! Edited September 2, 2023 by EntMan 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Did anyone else get their Cities of Sigmar box today? I had a moment of fear when I realised the box was upside down inside the packaging and the air filled package filler was deflated. Luckily the contents are all fine: no damage at all. Having now seen it up close, I can see why the Warforger is every influencers favourite mini: the texture on the cauldron and the leather aprons is just brilliant. More generally the sprues are just gorgeous. Combined with how customisable the knights and infantry are, this release really does seem to be great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, EntMan said: On the bright side I no longer have a pile of shame, I have a wide future-proofed stockpile! Thats what I have been telling myself for years! (And I actually saved quite a lot over the multiple price increases we had) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, JerekKruger said: Did anyone else get their Cities of Sigmar box today? I had a moment of fear when I realised the box was upside down inside the packaging and the air filled package filler was deflated. Luckily the contents are all fine: no damage at all. Having now seen it up close, I can see why the Warforger is every influencers favourite mini: the texture on the cauldron and the leather aprons is just brilliant. More generally the sprues are just gorgeous. Combined with how customisable the knights and infantry are, this release really does seem to be great. Phew, glad your sprues arrived intact despite the packing Please could you let me know the base size for the Warforger? I have a Runelord to kitbash and base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, EntMan said: Please could you let me know the base size for the Warforger? I have a Runelord to kitbash and base. Sure, just checked and he's on a 32mm. A Runelord ought to look okay on that size I think, especially with a nice rock to stand on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, JerekKruger said: Sure, just checked and he's on a 32mm. A Runelord ought to look okay on that size I think, especially with a nice rock to stand on. Thanks, he's already got the fiery hot metal in tongs, just need to sort out a cauldron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Red Lines Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Jetlife said: I definitely think the trend will continue into 4.0 with Skaven, Beasts of Chaos and Ogres. I wonder about beasts. They seem to be doing everything they can to avoid duplication between old world and aos. It's funny, when they redesigned ardboyz, I expected them to look like the underworlds warband, which were like more dynamic versions of the old design. Instead, the design is a massive departure, drawing a clear line between the old black orcs and the new ironjawz range. It's clear a lot of this must have been due to a conscious decision to ensure the models can't be purchased to be used in both game systems. We also have pictures of the old metal treeman rather than the sylvaneth version for old world, which is a pretty mad choice. We know beasts of chaos are one of the starter factions in old world, so it would be weird for them to be used in both game systems. I wonder if they'll get squatted eventually from aos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 5 hours ago, cyrus said: Book 3 supposed to be Order focused with Kurnothi and Fyreslayers releases, isn't it ? I don't think there's any rumours about Fyreslayers releases, unless I missed something major Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jagged Red Lines said: I wonder about beasts. They seem to be doing everything they can to avoid duplication between old world and aos. It's funny, when they redesigned ardboyz, I expected them to look like the underworlds warband, which were like more dynamic versions of the old design. Instead, the design is a massive departure, drawing a clear line between the old black orcs and the new ironjawz range. It's clear a lot of this must have been due to a conscious decision to ensure the models can't be purchased to be used in both game systems. We also have pictures of the old metal treeman rather than the sylvaneth version for old world, which is a pretty mad choice. We know beasts of chaos are one of the starter factions in old world, so it would be weird for them to be used in both game systems. I wonder if they'll get squatted eventually from aos? They won't get squatted. They've been getting more and more new lore. I'm guessing a major revamp is happening rather than squatting 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Snarff said: They won't get squatted. They've been getting more and more new lore. I'm guessing a major revamp is happening rather than squatting Beast of Chaos are interesting. For one they lean heavily into the bull/goat aesthetic. Is that truly unique enough for AOS? I know they have the other random creatures and monsters, but it’s kind of a weird combo. This is a pure guess, but I keep having this feeling that Chaos dwarves and Beasts of chaos might be redone to fit together somehow. Hashut models already carry the bull aesthetic and having a dwarf army with pure machinery is almost too identical to the Kharadron. Having the dwarves with machines and monsters would give them the kind of unique spin AOS tends to gravitate toward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorri Nelriksson Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jetlife said: Beast of Chaos are interesting. For one they lean heavily into the bull/goat aesthetic. Is that truly unique enough for AOS? I know they have the other random creatures and monsters, but it’s kind of a weird combo. This is a pure guess, but I keep having this feeling that Chaos dwarves and Beasts of chaos might be redone to fit together somehow. Hashut models already carry the bull aesthetic and having a dwarf army with pure machinery is almost too identical to the Kharadron. Having the dwarves with machines and monsters would give them the kind of unique spin AOS tends to gravitate toward. Chaos dwarves in the lore uses macines,demonic things like K'daii and monsters like lammasu and tauruses,they are already using machines and monsters so i don't think they'll get changed much. Also, considering the hashut warcry warband, i think we'll see some auxiliaries and slaves (greenskins and ogors,humans perhaps). Beasts of chaos are the opposite of them,they can't fit together: chaos dwarves is the evil of industry, beasts are the rejection of civilization, it would make not much senses. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, EntMan said: So according to a thread on Bolter and Chainsword, GW are putting up prices in October ☹️ Possibly for LGS rather than retail prices, but it might I guess impact on the discounts independents can offer. On the bright side I no longer have a pile of shame, I have a wise future-proofed stockpile! Good god. Literally half a year after the last one, which was maybe 5-6 months after the late 2022 one... Looks like the twice-annual price increase is the pattern now. Given their profits, it rather makes clear that any noises about increased costs and such were just a fig leaf. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoghurtKobold Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 hours ago, CDM said: On top of this and before chaos dwaves it any new faction I'd like to see second waves for FS, KO, ID and OBR I do believe that those “handpicked” namarti from the new Idoneth Underworld warband are a preview of IDK second wave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Snarff said: I don't think there's any rumours about Fyreslayers releases, unless I missed something major 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, cyrus said: I knew about this, Brodd even tagged me in it haha. But was it specifically about Dawnbringers 3? Or just somewhere in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 hours ago, EntMan said: My suggestion (because obviously GW haven't decided yet, and want my opinion) is for next edition move to Chamon and enter the Era of the War Machine. Would suit Skaven, Chorfs, new Cities, Goblins, various dwarves including Dispossessed refresh. This would be amazing and could also fit into my dream of getting a proper seige ruleset as different factions begin to incorporate more robust seige equipment into their armies. I have been thinking of Ulgu tying to Skaven (assuming the starter set runours prove true) due to their sneaky nature but Chamon meeting their technological innovations is actually a really great call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Neverchosen said: This would be amazing and could also fit into my dream of getting a proper seige ruleset as different factions begin to incorporate more robust seige equipment into their armies. I have been thinking of Ulgu tying to Skaven (assuming the starter set runours prove true) due to their sneaky nature but Chamon meeting their technological innovations is actually a really great call. It would make sense if the Battlemages in Cities are gradually replaced with separate realm specific wizard characters over the years as the action moves between the different realms. And we have just been given the Warforger which increases my suspicions of Chamon next. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, EntMan said: It would make sense if the Battlemages in Cities are gradually replaced with separate realm specific wizard characters over the years as the action moves between the different realms. And we have just been given the Warforger which increases my suspicions of Chamon next. I can't wait to see an actual Aqshyan battlemage! The bright wizard kit doesn't hold up great. I especially want to see some Duardin or Aelven mages too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Snarff said: I can't wait to see an actual Aqshyan battlemage! Will this fellow do for you? 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Snarff said: I knew about this, Brodd even tagged me in it haha. But was it specifically about Dawnbringers 3? Or just somewhere in the future It was Dawnbringers/Fjori related 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorri Nelriksson Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Considering narrative i think the next focus will be on ulgu,is the last realm left to explore and it would give many possibilities. Even chorfs have an outpost there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScionOfOssia Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 I think it’s still too early to call what 2 areas will be the main and side focus for next edition. Maybe Dawnbringers 3 will clue us in, maybe it won’t, but right now it could be anywhere besides maybe Ghur and Ghyran. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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