The Rumour Thread

[sandlemad]

2 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said:

CA Blogpost.

Oh man, The Thing(s) In The Woods pulling Mother Ostankya’s sled, now that’s a deep Mordheim cut . Go TW team. 

[Asbestress]

2 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Rules previews have started for Cities of Sigmar. Obviously the leaks are out in the wild for everyone to read, but probably a good sign the Army Set isn't far off. 

Okay, now my hope is rekindled for an August release! Even more so if we keep getting articles every day 😛

And that artwork is just something else... I think I want to do a Castelite formation even more now.

[Freemeta]

Fec need princess or a new "Dame du Lac" , i dont really know them but do they have some woman figure in their lore?

[Twisted Firaun]

1 minute ago, Freemeta said:

Fec need princess or a new "Dame du Lac" , i dont really know them but do they have some woman figure in their lore?

No, surprisingly the Lady of The Lake expy has gone to Nurgle with the Order of The Fly subfaction. Honestly it's kinda weird how FEC and Maggotkin are competing for the spot of "New Bretonnia," and I hope GW works out what direction they want to take these two factions ASAP.

[Captaniser]

5 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Hmmmm. A curious Rumour Engine,

When I initially saw this one I thought it was an ascending staircase, but now I think it might be the bottom of one instead, and the perspective changes your perception. This isn't FEC, it is Bonereapers and I can prove it.

Dead skeletons? Bonereapers love killing those boney ****** twice to harvest them

Why is there only a single skull and the upper torso of another skeleton, and what is that weird texture below and beside them? It is magical flux that the Mortisans use when they craft skelebobs and other things.

But what about the ominous text? It is a sign of a big and grand release for multiple death factions...maybe.

[Twisted Firaun]

14 minutes ago, Captaniser said:

When I initially saw this one I thought it was an ascending staircase, but now I think it might be the bottom of one instead, and the perspective changes your perception. This isn't FEC, it is Bonereapers and I can prove it.

Dead skeletons? Bonereapers love killing those boney ****** twice to harvest them

Why is there only a single skull and the upper torso of another skeleton, and what is that weird texture below and beside them? It is magical flux that the Mortisans use when they craft skelebobs and other things.

But what about the ominous text? It is a sign of a big and grand release for multiple death factions...maybe.

If AOS 4th Edition puts GA:Death at the forefront of the edition with a huge update for multiple ranges before Skaven and BOC, I will buy a Lumineth army and swear off my Tomb Kings. I'm all for more skeletal lads, vampire gals, and ghoulish delights, but come one GW throw your OG factions a bone.

Edited August 8, 2023 by Twisted Firaun

[Lucentia]

Don't forget that, whilst FEC are most likely going to be the next big release, the Dawnbringers books will also have attached models for various factions, even if the next Dawnbringers book is 100% orruks/destruction, there's still easily space for one-off Ossiarch heroes or whatever.  And, going off of Broken Realms, sometimes they'll stick fairly substantial kits in with these kind of narrative releases (Kroak, Belakor, Synessa, etc.) it's not always just foot heroes.

[Ejecutor]

26 minutes ago, Captaniser said:

When I initially saw this one I thought it was an ascending staircase, but now I think it might be the bottom of one instead, and the perspective changes your perception. This isn't FEC, it is Bonereapers and I can prove it.

Dead skeletons? Bonereapers love killing those boney ****** twice to harvest them

Why is there only a single skull and the upper torso of another skeleton, and what is that weird texture below and beside them? It is magical flux that the Mortisans use when they craft skelebobs and other things.

But what about the ominous text? It is a sign of a big and grand release for multiple death factions...maybe.

Good point. Definetely the staircase is descending, but I really doubt such a big and ornated base would be for a OBR mini.

[Morglum StormBasha]

So do we think it’s just ironjawz wave 2 and FEC left for aos third ? That would make it I think have less product released in the edition than first or second 

Basically we got 13 model waves in aos1 and 11 in aos2 (plus a smattering of characters)

How much is left in aos3?

Aos1 

2015
1 Stormcast 1 
2 Khorne bloodbound
3 Slaves to darkness 1

2016
4 Fyreslayers
5 Ironjawz
6 Stormcast 1.5
7 Sylvaneth

2017
8 Desciples of tzeentch
9 Stormcast vanguard 2
10 Kharadron overlords

2018
11 Maggotkin of nurgle 
12 Daughters of khaine
13 Idoneth deepkin

Aos2
1 Stormcast 3
2 Nighthaunt 

2019 
3 Gloomspite gitz 
4 Hedonites of slaanesh
5 OBR
6 Slaves 2 warcry 

2020
7 lumineth 
8 Sons of Behemat

2021
9 Hedonites 2
10 lumineth 2 
11 soulblight 

Aos3 
1 Stormcast 5
2 Kruleboyz

2022
3 nighthaunt wave 2
4 Sylvaneth wave 2
5 sons of behemat wave 2
6. Slaves to darkness wave 2

2023
7. Seraphon mega wave 
8. Cities of Sigmar mega wave
9. Ironjawz wave 2

2024
10. FEC mega wave 
11. ???

4th Ed

[Morglum StormBasha]

Wonder how big the 2024 FEC army will be ?

1. Ushoran the summer king 
2. Her Highness of Ruin
3. New ghouls
4. New foot character ?
5. New foot character ?
6. New infantry ?
7. New cavalry ?
8. New monster ?

[Morglum StormBasha]

So the only old armies to redo in 4th are 

Ogors 
Skaven 
Beasts 

So at least 1 of those is getting done if not all of them?

given third redid Slaves, Seraphon and Cities

[Clan's Cynic]

13 minutes ago, Morglum StormBasha said:

So do we think it’s just ironjawz wave 2 and FEC left for aos third ? That would make it I think have less product released in the edition than first or second 

They said "more than 12 armies" would be getting new stuff with Dawnbringers. So there's still at least 7 to go (Harbingers + Ironjawz Pig). That could just end up being a bunch of Heroes - and for most it probably will be - but hopefully there's a few more wildcard units in there like the Big Pig.

6 minutes ago, Morglum StormBasha said:

So the only old armies to redo in 4th are 

Ogors 
Skaven 
Beasts 

So at least 1 of those is getting done if not all of them?

given third redid Slaves, Seraphon and Cities

I wouldn't be surprised if a good chunk of the Gitz got an update. They've had a good amount of new models, but there's quite a bit of stuff that was looking long in the toof even back in WHFB's day (Stabbas/Shootas, the basic Shamans, etc). 

[Morglum StormBasha]

Ok so yeah maybe the addditional heroes cover the remaining spot in the schedule - although in that case I could arguably a 12th wave for second ed in 2021 of “big heroes” to cover off Kragnos and Kroak

[Neverchosen]

I personally think that the FEC will receive a terrific but not huge update.

If I had to tarry I guess for a small release it would be as follows:
Ushoran - Large centrepiece model likely around Beast Radukar sized
Varghulf - Probably using the Cursed City Model as a base
Cavalry - Borowing the horse design from the Corpsemare Stampede
Batswarms - Using the bats in the Grymwatch as inspiration.

Possibly a dual kit for the infernal and haunter Courtiers if they are not simply replaced as the name of the unit champions, with the Varghulf taking their respective battlefield roles. Between the Abhorant, Flaymaster, Ghoul King on foot and the Marrowscroll Herald, the Crypt Ghast Courtier may be seeing the end of its life as a custom fodder model.

So I can imagine a 'small release' like this that would replace their resin model and expand on the little hints we have gotten for more FEC from Endless Spells and Underworlds. Personally I hope for more but I would be happy with this as a stop gap before even more extensive future updates ver the years including re-sculpted ghouls. 

Edit: Hopefully the Whitefang react means that the Small release is incorrect, as I think a big Flesh Eater release would be amazing! Or maybe I was wrong about the Courtiers or the Underworld/Endless Spell hints?

Edited August 8, 2023 by Neverchosen

[Ejecutor]

27 minutes ago, Morglum StormBasha said:

So do we think it’s just ironjawz wave 2 and FEC left for aos third ? That would make it I think have less product released in the edition than first or second 

Basically we got 13 model waves in aos1 and 11 in aos2 (plus a smattering of characters)

How much is left in aos3?

Aos1 

2015
1 Stormcast 1 
2 Khorne bloodbound
3 Slaves to darkness 1

2016
4 Fyreslayers
5 Ironjawz
6 Stormcast 1.5
7 Sylvaneth

2017
8 Desciples of tzeentch
9 Stormcast vanguard 2
10 Kharadron overlords

2018
11 Maggotkin of nurgle 
12 Daughters of khaine
13 Idoneth deepkin

Aos2
1 Stormcast 3
2 Nighthaunt 

2019 
3 Gloomspite gitz 
4 Hedonites of slaanesh
5 OBR
6 Slaves 2 warcry 

2020
7 lumineth 
8 Sons of Behemat

2021
9 Hedonites 2
10 lumineth 2 
11 soulblight 

Aos3 
1 Stormcast 5
2 Kruleboyz

2022
3 nighthaunt wave 2
4 Sylvaneth wave 2
5 sons of behemat wave 2
6. Slaves to darkness wave 2

2023
7. Seraphon mega wave 
8. Cities of Sigmar mega wave
9. Ironjawz wave 2

2024
10. FEC mega wave 
11. ???

4th Ed

It is a pretty solid recap, but rather than counting how many waves we had I would count how many units/ warscrolls we had to have a more precise idea when comparing between editions, and maybe stuff like Warhammer Quest exclusive models should be counted as well.

[Morglum StormBasha]

If anyone wants to count actual SKUS releases each edition. Feel free! That could take some time tho …

[CommissarRotke]

4 hours ago, MitGas said:

level up my Diablo 4 Sorcerer but that's tedious

some help for your predicament: you can finish the D4 campaign around level 50 if you're doing side stuff; you stop getting skill points at 50 so once you hit that you can basically level as you want to

[Gitzdee]

Noticed a slightly different build on the cannon last warcom article.

[Ejecutor]

4 minutes ago, Gitzdee said:

Noticed a slightly different build on the cannon last warcom article.

Isn't it the same than the one appearing in this article in the second pic? Or I am missing something else?

Cities of Sigmar – The Entire Magnificent Range Revealed - Warhammer Community (warhammer-community.com)

[CDM]

2 hours ago, Morglum StormBasha said:

So do we think it’s just ironjawz wave 2 and FEC left for aos third ? That would make it I think have less product released in the edition than first or second 

Basically we got 13 model waves in aos1 and 11 in aos2 (plus a smattering of characters)

How much is left in aos3?

Aos1 

2015
1 Stormcast 1 
2 Khorne bloodbound
3 Slaves to darkness 1

2016
4 Fyreslayers
5 Ironjawz
6 Stormcast 1.5
7 Sylvaneth

2017
8 Desciples of tzeentch
9 Stormcast vanguard 2
10 Kharadron overlords

2018
11 Maggotkin of nurgle 
12 Daughters of khaine
13 Idoneth deepkin

Aos2
1 Stormcast 3
2 Nighthaunt 

2019 
3 Gloomspite gitz 
4 Hedonites of slaanesh
5 OBR
6 Slaves 2 warcry 

2020
7 lumineth 
8 Sons of Behemat

2021
9 Hedonites 2
10 lumineth 2 
11 soulblight 

Aos3 
1 Stormcast 5
2 Kruleboyz

2022
3 nighthaunt wave 2
4 Sylvaneth wave 2
5 sons of behemat wave 2
6. Slaves to darkness wave 2

2023
7. Seraphon mega wave 
8. Cities of Sigmar mega wave
9. Ironjawz wave 2

2024
10. FEC mega wave 
11. ???

4th Ed

Hopefully 10th edition 40k and 4th edition AOS will be the first editions with a decent model release and battletome/codex for all factions. 

Didn't 40k 9th have a codex release for every faction?

[JackStreicher]

14 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Isn't it the same than the one appearing in this article in the second pic? Or I am missing something else?

Cities of Sigmar – The Entire Magnificent Range Revealed - Warhammer Community (warhammer-community.com)

I think he means the ammunition part vs the guy drinking

[Whitefang]

10 hours ago, Draznak said:

There's one thing that puzzles me about this magnificent COS release...

Do you think the ironweld great cannon could be considered as a steampunk stuff ? I remember @Whitefang responding favourably to this a few months ago :

https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/31743-the-mortals-redesign-discussion/?do=findComment&comment=596794

But I don't get impression that this canon is very 'advanced steampunk stuff'...

Is it just me fantasising, or is there a hint of a possible 2nd wave? New BT also clearly mentions steam-walkers. With elite/heavy infantry, things related to Azyr and that, there's room for new COS human releases.

 

Nah I called that a dream just because this update is not actually very advanced as we can see now…

[Ejecutor]

23 minutes ago, JackStreicher said:

I think he means the ammunition part vs the guy drinking

Yeah, but you can see those one, in better quality, as well in the post I dropped. I noticed 3 main differences.

1 - Heads. With and without helmets.
2 - Arms/ Actions. Including a little explosion on the powder while being fired.
3 - Non used helmets are dropped in the floor.

Edited August 8, 2023 by Ejecutor

[CommissarRotke]

24 minutes ago, Whitefang said:

Nah I called that a dream just because this update is not actually very advanced as we can see now…

it does make sense to put out the poor saps footsoldiers before the wildest stuff, even if it is slightly disappointing to not see elites from different realms.

Any hint as to whether the next wave is Realm-specific or City-specific ;)?

[CDM]

5 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said:

it does make sense to put out the poor saps footsoldiers before the wildest stuff, even if it is slightly disappointing to not see elites from different realms.

Any hint as to whether the next wave is Realm-specific or City-specific ;)?

It does make sense definitely. It's the core of the force. They did the same with the Vanari for Lumineth.