The Rumour Thread

[Ogregut]

So excited for this!! 

[CommissarRotke]

15 hours ago, Sarges said:

Judging by the stormcast on the right, it looks more like the Nightmare Quest cover.

i'm not convinced it's Stormcast just yet, the sword I can see but the lightning icon doesn't look like anything shown in either Nightmar Quest or existing models?

edit: it is NMQ so maybe there's another model or objective that hasn't been shown yet

Edited April 28, 2023 by CommissarRotke

[CommissarRotke]

14 hours ago, Neverchosen said:

My mantra for the next few weeks:

"I cannot afford both Flesh Eater Courts and Rent"

I hope if I say it enough I won't make bad life choices. 

Remember Christmas battleforces exist and should have most new units in them

[CommissarRotke]

53 minutes ago, MitGas said:

Skaven are already crazy enough in TOW to not feel too boring in AoS

I would argue this is only because they are a bit too crazy in Old World stuff... maybe if dwarfs had more tech it would feel evened out but at least in Total Warhammer fighting Clan Skyre feels like fighting a 40k army.

[Neverchosen]

1 hour ago, Ogregut said:

So excited for this!! 

Albion and Araby are pretty prominent don't want to get my hopes up but I have officially gotten them up. 

[Fellman]

1 hour ago, The Lost Sigmarite said:

Seen on Sepulchre of Heroes on FB. Looks like that FEC illustration is for Nightmare Quest, and not mainline AoS.

I wouldn't expect FEC to appear at the main AoS reveal show now. Not until Nightmare Quest is fully revealed.

Edit : I had seen the artwork here yesterday, it's the caption that matters me here.

Wath is upp whit pinkertons?

[Flippy]

1 hour ago, MitGas said:

What adds insult to injury is that some factions got a lot of choice (Stormcast eg), while others don‘t. I‘d be unhappy with the amount of units in one of the smaller forces as well NGL. One doesn‘t need an option for everything but I understand that IJ, IDK, KO etc. would like a couple more kits for their respective armies similar to Sylvaneth and it feels like a simple enough fix in most cases.

1 hour ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

That makes sense from my point of view, because Kharadron don't feel like a complete army to me either.

I have approx. 2500 points of KO and no hard feelings towards GW. My ultimate point is: I knew what I was buying.

As harsh as it may sound (and I've used this argument before), armies in AoS are not created equal. Not every army may grow to match the old WHFB armies or even LRL / Sylvaneth - and no army is ever likely to match SCE. Factions like IDK, DOK, KO, Fyreslayers may stay as they are for years and years to come. I would be happy as much as the next guy to see new models for KO, but I have no particular expectations.

Anyway... the new Seraphon are ridiculously cool.

 

[MitGas]

7 minutes ago, Flippy said:

I have approx. 2500 points of KO and no hard feelings towards GW. My ultimate point is: I knew what I was buying.

As harsh as it may sound (and I've used this argument before), armies in AoS are not created equal. Not every army may grow to match the old WHFB armies or even LRL / Sylvaneth - and no army is ever likely to match SCE. Factions like IDK, DOK, KO, Fyreslayers may stay as they are for years and years to come. I would be happy as much as the next guy to see new models for KO, but I have no particular expectations.

Anyway... the new Seraphon are ridiculously cool.

 

Oh yes, that is indeed ridiculously good-looking, it's on Zoolander-levels! 🥰
 

 Edit: took a look at the link to WHC.... those minis must be a joy to paint. Even low effort paint jobs would look probably pretty amazing thanks to the overall sculpts. Wonderful to see GW nailing Seraphon.

I understand your point, it's a good one indeed, but seeing how almost all forces in WHFB grew to be bigger armies, it feels a bit like false advertising (bit of a ludicrous way to put it, I know) - yes, they didn't say: "look, army X is gonna get Y amount of kits down the line" but I bet a lot of people were expecting for some of them to get a couple more units. All I'm saying is that armies like IDK or FS could use 2 units and a hero, maybe a monster and suddenly they'd feel like a "proper" army with tons of choices.

Edited April 28, 2023 by MitGas

[Baron Klatz]

34 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said:

I would argue this is only because they are a bit too crazy in Old World stuff... maybe if dwarfs had more tech it would feel evened out but at least in Total Warhammer fighting Clan Skyre feels like fighting a 40k army.

Haha, I have a friend new to the Warhammer franchise and went from learning about AoS& 40k to playing Total War say the same.

”They feel like an AoS faction trapped in WHFB”

 

1 hour ago, MitGas said:

they‘re not a high-fantasy army in essence and I‘m not sure their fans would appreciate their core concept getting supercharged.

I’m fairly certain their fans would take anything up to 40k Beastmen being ported over at this point. 😅

The AoS teased stuff like Realm affected Gors becoming things like Ghur Mammothmen, Ghyran Mantismen or Shyish albino lionmen along with the Gavespawn faction wanting everything turned into primordial ooze for really twisted aberrations would be cool though.

7 minutes ago, Fellman said:

Wath is upp whit pinkertons?

Oh, Wizards of the Coast sent dangerous thugs to retrieve leaked cards from a YouTuber.

Just part of their downward spiral of public opinion among a chain of other horrid decisions.

Great image upgrade for GW & Paizo though.

[MitGas]

1 minute ago, Baron Klatz said:

Haha, I have a friend new to the Warhammer franchise and went from learning about AoS& 40k to playing Total War say the same.

”They feel like an AoS faction trapped in WHFB”

 

I’m fairly certain their fans would take anything up to 40k Beastmen being ported over at this point. 😅

The AoS teased stuff like Realm affected Gors becoming things like Ghur Mammothmen, Ghyran Mantismen or Shyish albino lionmen along with the Gavespawn faction wanting everything turned into primordial ooze for really twisted aberrations would be cool though.

Oh, Wizards of the Coast sent dangerous thugs to retrieve leaked cards from a YouTuber.

Just part of their downward spiral of public opinion among a chain of other horrid decisions.

Great image upgrade for GW & Paizo though.

Absolutely, all those things sound cool - I'm just saying that the basic Beastmen stuff feels pretty at home in WHFB/TOW and I think many Beastmen fans wouldn't be unhappy if they didn't "evolve" all that much. I'd like them to stay true to their overall premise and then have a couple of more out-there specialized units personally - best of both worlds, quite literally.

[Public Universal Duardin]

2 hours ago, The Lost Sigmarite said:

OMG Chorfs confirmed for winter ? 😄

If we repeat "Chorfs confirmed!" enough, eventually it'll be real!

[Tonhel]

5 hours ago, KingBrodd said:

That would be devastating. Old World is just that, Old, if they updated those factions through a different system and time period they would be limiting themselves creatively.

Personally I dont mind if they want to use AOS minis in Old World but dont give me Old World minis that count as useable in AOS. Thats a cop out.

I doubt they will do that anyway because as it stands AOS is selling far better than WHFB.

I understand. But there are no AoS beast of chaos miniatures, it are the exact same mini's that were in Warhammer before it blew up. Now they bring Warhammer back. The only new miniature Beast of Chaos got, was a new Beastlord, which has nothing AoS specific on him. He is in the same style as the last Beastmen release (Bray-Shaman) for Warhammer.

Soon there will be Beast of Chaos for AoS and Beastmen for Warhammer, both will have same the miniatures. Now if we look how many systems GW has to support nowadays, there is no way that they will make unique mini's for Beasts of Chaos battletome and Beastmen armybook. If there ever will be new mini's, they will probably be in the same style as all the Beast of Chaos mini's, which are Beastmen from the old world. 😉

AoS selling better than Warhammer did in its final years is a bit of a mood point. What matters is how Warhammer the Old World will do financial when it is released this year or the next. It's also the first time that they can compare the sales, which will be very interesting.

The GW of today is not the same GW as it was in the last years of Warhammer. Almost two different companies. Now, we will see how this shift in behavior of GW will reflect on Warhammer "The Old World".

Anyway lets hope that this weekend will bring very cool AoS previews and Warhammer previews! 😄

[Neverchosen]

8 minutes ago, Public Universal Duardin said:

If we repeat "Chorfs confirmed!" enough, eventually it'll be real!

Chorfs Confirmed!

I still hope that we get a kit that is for AOS and Old World with classic hats for old world and more helmeted looks for AOS to tie into the Horns of Hashut and Hobgrots.

This is so I can make the lords all have hats and make a strictly stratified society based on a ruling class of Hat-wearers

[Ganigumo]

46 minutes ago, Flippy said:

I have approx. 2500 points of KO and no hard feelings towards GW. My ultimate point is: I knew what I was buying.

As harsh as it may sound (and I've used this argument before), armies in AoS are not created equal. Not every army may grow to match the old WHFB armies or even LRL / Sylvaneth - and no army is ever likely to match SCE. Factions like IDK, DOK, KO, Fyreslayers may stay as they are for years and years to come. I would be happy as much as the next guy to see new models for KO, but I have no particular expectations.

IMO armies shouldn't grow to those sizes, it makes them all feel too similar, since they all have most of the same tools, and makes the game too symmetrical. 

I'm not against expanding ranges or anything but I like how many of the factions have a focused playstyle. There's a place for mixed arms forces, but there's also a place for specialist armies like Ironjawz. Its a good mix.

[JackStreicher]

3 hours ago, Ogregut said:

So excited for this!! 

At first glance I thought this was promoting The LotR Game 😂

[Twisted Firaun]

1 hour ago, Public Universal Duardin said:

If we repeat "Chorfs confirmed!" enough, eventually it'll be real!

As strategies go, it's so far worked fro The Lion, Sisters of Battle, Squats/Leagues of Votann, Bretonnia and LONG LOST NEHEKHARA!!! So anything is possible. 

55 minutes ago, Neverchosen said:

Chorfs Confirmed!

I still hope that we get a kit that is for AOS and Old World with classic hats for old world and more helmeted looks for AOS to tie into the Horns of Hashut and Hobgrots.

This is so I can make the lords all have hats and make a strictly stratified society based on a ruling class of Hat-wearers

So far in the Horns of Hashut lore book for warcry it's been confirmed that the humans get taller and fancier helms(called Hashutaar) as they progress through the ranks, so it's possible. As I've stated yesterday I think the best case scenario for chorfs would be one or two kits for TOW, the return of whatever Legion of Azgorh kits GW didn't purposefully break, and a metric ton of new units for AOS to tie the ranges together.

1 hour ago, MitGas said:

Absolutely, all those things sound cool - I'm just saying that the basic Beastmen stuff feels pretty at home in WHFB/TOW and I think many Beastmen fans wouldn't be unhappy if they didn't "evolve" all that much. I'd like them to stay true to their overall premise and then have a couple of more out-there specialized units personally - best of both worlds, quite literally.

Beastmen are one of two armies in all of Warhammer that have that special niche of being able to fit in every game's lore without too much editing (the other being daemons). I won't lie and say that I don't want some non-horned units in their ranks, @JReynolds Ghosteater (the previously mentioned Lion-Man of Shyish) is awesome and I wish we saw more of him and his kind, but they shouldn't become as warped as the gods they worshipped if you catch my drift....

1 hour ago, Neverchosen said:

Albion and Araby are pretty prominent don't want to get my hopes up but I have officially gotten them up. 

*Starts up Arabian Nights* Oh I sincerely hope we get some Araby models, then my dream army could be built with little to no effort beyond building and painting my Pile of Shame....

Edited April 28, 2023 by Twisted Firaun

[The Lost Sigmarite]

45 minutes ago, Ganigumo said:

I'm not against expanding ranges or anything but I like how many of the factions have a focused playstyle.

That's what I find great about the AoS community. We'd rather have a small, well rounded and balanced army list where everything is viable rather than gigantic rosters like the WFB army books have, where you're bound to have some dead weight useless miniatures. 

[JackStreicher]

3 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said:

That's what I find great about the AoS community. We'd rather have a small, well rounded and balanced army list where everything is viable rather than gigantic rosters like the WFB army books have, where you're bound to have some dead weight useless miniatures. 

True yet I‘d prefer at least one unit per Army that breaks the same-y-ness of some armies (DoK, FyreDudes and IDK to an extend)

Also: Mounted heroes please?

The Chaos Lord on steed is super cool to me since there’s the foot version as well. It adds flexibility of what style of army one wants to play.

SBGL lack this concerning the Blood Knights sadly - would be great to have a character that can keep up with them.

Edited April 28, 2023 by JackStreicher

[Twisted Firaun]

1 hour ago, Baron Klatz said:

Haha, I have a friend new to the Warhammer franchise and went from learning about AoS& 40k to playing Total War say the same.

”They feel like an AoS faction trapped in WHFB”

 

I’m fairly certain their fans would take anything up to 40k Beastmen being ported over at this point. 😅

The AoS teased stuff like Realm affected Gors becoming things like Ghur Mammothmen, Ghyran Mantismen or Shyish albino lionmen along with the Gavespawn faction wanting everything turned into primordial ooze for really twisted aberrations would be cool though.

Oh, Wizards of the Coast sent dangerous thugs to retrieve leaked cards from a YouTuber.

Just part of their downward spiral of public opinion among a chain of other horrid decisions.

Great image upgrade for GW & Paizo though.

Homie got hit so quickly he didn't even give the guys who run scryfall a chance to update their previews page..... I know we all love to joke about GW firing people who leak their products in advance, but can we appreciate that as far as we know they haven't sent the literal union busters on any of our tails? 

[CommissarRotke]

4 hours ago, Public Universal Duardin said:

If we repeat "Chorfs confirmed!" enough, eventually it'll be real!

Chorfs confirmed, Chorfs confirmed
Ogors on the way
Skaven too, can join the crew
And Kurnoth will seize the day (hey!)

edit: Jingle Bells

Edited April 28, 2023 by CommissarRotke

[Baron Klatz]

Just now, Twisted Firaun said:

Homie got hit so quickly he didn't even give the guys who run scryfall a chance to update their previews page..... I know we all love to joke about GW firing people who leak their products in advance, but can we appreciate that as far as we know they haven't sent the literal union busters on any of our tails? 

Honestly to me it’s closer to those “I can’t play the old warhammer editions because GW sent goons to my house and stole all my old copies and models” but Wizards of the Coast saw those joke posts and went:

”Huh, not a bad idea.”

[Tonhel]

1 hour ago, Ganigumo said:

IMO armies shouldn't grow to those sizes, it makes them all feel too similar, since they all have most of the same tools, and makes the game too symmetrical. 

I'm not against expanding ranges or anything but I like how many of the factions have a focused playstyle. There's a place for mixed arms forces, but there's also a place for specialist armies like Ironjawz. Its a good mix.

A focused playing style is not the same as a limit unit roster. Giving the battletomes with a small selection of units more units (new miniatures) to chose out doesn't automatically mean that the playstyle of that army gets dilluted or that it becomes a mixed arms force. This has nothing to do with expanding the miniature / unit selection but it has to do with the rules written for that battletome.

This doesn't mean that a battletome needs to bloated with units, but there is certainly room for expansion that doesn't automatically result in a change of playstyle for those armies.

Edited April 28, 2023 by Tonhel

[The Lost Sigmarite]

47 minutes ago, Twisted Firaun said:

Homie got hit so quickly he didn't even give the guys who run scryfall a chance to update their previews page..... I know we all love to joke about GW firing people who leak their products in advance, but can we appreciate that as far as we know they haven't sent the literal union busters on any of our tails? 

GW employees who leak things break their contract doing so - pretty sure you have to sign an NDA when joining GW - which means GW is in the right to fire them if they break said contract by leaking things.

Meanwhile that MTG guy had broken no NDA. That's where WOTC is ******, and should have acted like GW when the same thing happened with the Dante mini.

But that's another story entirely.

[Holy_Diver]

On 4/27/2023 at 1:16 PM, Captaniser said:

 

Looks brutal and quite cunning this teaser

No one has yet wondered what Gorkamorka has to do with Shysh and Ghyran? (the two runes on the photo)

[Baron Klatz]

9 minutes ago, Holy_Diver said:

No one has yet wondered what Gorkamorka has to do with Shysh and Ghyran? (the two runes on the photo)

@CommissarRotke had a really good theory it’s representing the main big events. Necroquake(Shyish and red energy emanating from there), Life-Rite(Ghyran and green energy) and now all the beast energy flowing everywhere causing monsters to multiply and go wild, animalistic mutations, incarnates to go on rampages and even people to exhibit more savage tendencies.

Could be a hint at the new narrative tomes, new Orruk releases(Kruleboyz, new Bonesplitterz, or Ironjawz after Gordrakk actually went and got those artifacts he passed up to attack Excelsis) or all the above.

The Broken Realms story “Brutal” might have a part here as Gordrakk actually got to talk to Gork that was possessing an Ironjawz that became a Bonesplitterz.(and pretty fun Mork fake-out by the Gloomspite shaman that released in Malign Portents, RIP 🪦🍄 )

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/06/25/broken-realms-fiction-brutal/

Edited April 28, 2023 by Baron Klatz