Darnok Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: When Whitefang affirms something without doubting, it is because he knows things... Pretty sure it was meant as a reference to the upcoming antagonists in the Dominion box. This could include Ironjawz and/or Bonesplitters of course. I remain doubtful until roven otherwise though. Edited May 26, 2021 by Darnok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Damosane said: Fyreslayers especially are a design dead end Do you believe that? I just want to remember what GW designed for High Elfs Lumineth: Cow-like golems with cow-like elves, Fox-like spirits riding hurricans followed by kangaroo riders (btw, they are awesome!). 100% sure the same guys that designed Lumineth will not have any problems expanding and designing new Fyreslayers (or Ironjawz, Kharadrons, etc...). Edited May 26, 2021 by Beliman grammar 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, Damosane said: Grimnir is dead and dwarves above all respect their ancestors. It's foolish to believe they wouldn't answer a call to war from Grungni no matter what grudges they have built up, plus I'm sure Grungni could offer them plenty of ur gold. Don't understand the weird gatekeeping and massive reaction to dwarves being combined into one battletome. There is literally nothing stopping you from still running a Fyreslayers lodge or a Kharadron fleet. The comparison that the different dwarves are akin to lumineth and sylvaneth is absolutely ridiculous, those are two different and distinct species who both just happen to serve a God who used to be an elf. The kharadron, dispossessed and Fyreslayers are all the same species who have drifted apart since their gods died/vanished. They are far closer to different lumineth temples that don't play nice with eachother very often than they are two completely different races. Also think a combined battletome increases the chance of more dwarf models more than it reduces it too, Fyreslayers especially are a design dead end. Do you guys even convert anyhow? Wouldn't be hard to convert Fyreslayer sky pirates or drunken kharadron berserkers if you wanted things to be more aesthetically similar for whatever reason I don't see how it's gatekeeping to want a faction that isn't just another religion. Kharadron can respect Grungni (just in case) without being his servants. Fyreslayers could at one point succeed in resurrecting Grimnir. We have two ways of dealing with loss, both a good twist on the "Dwarves are a crumbling race" trope. A "Hi kids, I'm back!" to the sons* that have found their own way, and the stepsons* that are desperately reaching for glimpses of their own father (after of course helping the neighbours getting their act together before acknowledging the dwarves) is a cheap copout. I do agree it increases the chance of Fyreslayers or Disposessed getting models that are in a battletome that they are also in (eventually), but I disagree vehemently that it increases the chances of Kharadron receiving models. And of course I convert. I have a whole converted Blood Bowl team at the ready. But I like conversion food, and just tossing them in the same box removes the chance of everything GW could have done with technologically assisted Kharadron as models. Plus, not getting models means not getting female dwarves, and they are hard to convert from the bodies we have. If I have to source the models anyway, they won't be coming from GW anymore. *I would have written "kids" if GW had started making more diverse models when both these factions were on the design table. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Under the Mountain Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, Damosane said: Grimnir is dead and dwarves above all respect their ancestors. It's foolish to believe they wouldn't answer a call to war from Grungni no matter what grudges they have built up, plus I'm sure Grungni could offer them plenty of ur gold. Don't understand the weird gatekeeping and massive reaction to dwarves being combined into one battletome. There is literally nothing stopping you from still running a Fyreslayers lodge or a Kharadron fleet. The comparison that the different dwarves are akin to lumineth and sylvaneth is absolutely ridiculous, those are two different and distinct species who both just happen to serve a God who used to be an elf. The kharadron, dispossessed and Fyreslayers are all the same species who have drifted apart since their gods died/vanished. They are far closer to different lumineth temples that don't play nice with eachother very often than they are two completely different races. Also think a combined battletome increases the chance of more dwarf models more than it reduces it too, Fyreslayers especially are a design dead end. Do you guys even convert anyhow? Wouldn't be hard to convert Fyreslayer sky pirates or drunken kharadron berserkers if you wanted things to be more aesthetically similar for whatever reason Completely disagree on almost everything especially Fyreslayer being a design dead end. Just because GW has not made the most of the concept does not mean they can not come up with many different designs. I don't want to mix the peanut butter of Kharadron and the onions of Fyreslayers, just because they are the same race dosent mean the two unique concepts go together. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Iksdee said: I keep hearing (aos facebook) about fellwater troggoths being mentioned somewhere by gw. Does anyone know more about this? I dont think they really need a new models, i like mine the way they are. The rumors ive read suggest some of the new orruks are called "fellwater morruks". Id love a new fellwater troggoth as I think the kit could really be brought up to the other troggoth levels. Its not bad per say but there are definitely aspects about it that drive me bonkers like the head to neck connection, it's very visible and looks atrocious. They Could even update the size to help differentiate it like between the rocks and danks, 2 per box, all fat and bloated. 🤩 Wishful thinking. Oh!! And add a plastic hag!! Edited May 26, 2021 by Vasshpit Always suggesting a plastic hag. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baiardo Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 So the rumors about new OBR unit and battletome are confirmed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard86 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Also, does anyone have any updates on either: i) chaos dwarves or ii) kurnothi? Obviously discontinuing chorfs without a single mention was a bummer, and personally I would have loved for Kragnos to lead the Kurnothi, but maybe there is still some hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Mackay Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, baiardo said: So the rumors about new OBR unit and battletome are confirmed? What, Where did this come from? First I’ve heard of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Vasshpit said: The rumors ive read suggest some of the new orruks are called "fellwater morruks". Id love a new fellwater troggoth as I think the kit could really be brought up to the other troggoth levels. Its not bad per say but there are definitely aspects about it that drive me bonkers like the head to neck connection, it's very visible and looks atrocious. They Could even update the size to help differentiate it like between the rocks and dank, 2 per box, all fat and bloated. 🤩 Wishful thinking. Thanks. I actually do like the look of fellwater troggoths. The dankhold troggoth ties it together with the rockgut troggoths imo. The kit also allows for a lot of different looks, i could build 6 totally different ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Greybeard86 said: Also, does anyone have any updates on either: i) chaos dwarves or ii) kurnothi? Obviously discontinuing chorfs without a single mention was a bummer, and personally I would have loved for Kragnos to lead the Kurnothi, but maybe there is still some hope. Chorfs are dwarves so will probably be lumped in somewhere (StD already has the two we now have). Kurnothi are elves so might get a battletome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard86 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, zilberfrid said: Chorfs are dwarves so will probably be lumped in somewhere (StD already has the two we now have). Kurnothi are elves so might get a battletome. I am grumpy too, but c'mon, I meant rumours 😘 PS - Not out of the blue, some reports on chorfs being active in the background lore, and same for Kurnothi. Edited May 26, 2021 by Greybeard86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Greybeard86 said: I am grumpy too, but c'mon, I meant rumours 😘 You're right. I should take a long rest from AoS and make me some space dwarves for Stargrave. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorri Nelriksson Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, baiardo said: So the rumors about new OBR unit and battletome are confirmed? What? Could you link the rumors ? Still i think is just wishlistings after the underworld warband. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 There's one thing I realised only today, and that is that Emelda Braskov does not have a subfaction like Freeguild or Order of Azyr. Though divining anything from boxed games warscrolls isn't going to end well, this is interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFJump Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Greybeard86 said: Also, does anyone have any updates on either: i) chaos dwarves or ii) kurnothi? Obviously discontinuing chorfs without a single mention was a bummer, and personally I would have loved for Kragnos to lead the Kurnothi, but maybe there is still some hope. A couple days ago I posted here how some third-party chorfs got c&d'd by GW. Edited May 26, 2021 by FFJump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamerion Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorri Nelriksson Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, zamerion said: It's just me or does it seems the skull has a stitched leather ballon under? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakensgreed Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Snorri Nelriksson said: It's just me or does it seems the skull has a stitched leather ballon under? That absolutely looks like one, yes. There‘s a chain attached to the skull as well. Edited May 26, 2021 by Drakensgreed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, zilberfrid said: It'd be to put LRL and DOK in one book, and make Malarion its god. Don't play with that 😧 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, zamerion said: This is one giant looking skull. I really hope its not a balloon, i'm not really in camp flying units with destruction factions. I like to smash face with wyverns/ snarlfangs and boars. I would make an exception for a balloon pulled by a wyvern ! ! Edited May 26, 2021 by Iksdee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 45 minutes ago, baiardo said: So the rumors about new OBR unit and battletome are confirmed? I’m sorry what? I need to know what this is all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ageofpaddsmar Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Iksdee said: This is one giant looking skull. I really hope its not a balloon, i'm not really in camp flying units with destruction factions. I like to smash face with wyverns/ snarlfangs and boars. I would make an exception for a balloon pulled by a wyvern ! ! Me too. Dont want any balloons .hoping its just stiched leather armour underneath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShyishBarry Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, ageofpaddsmar said: Me too. Dont want any balloons .hoping its just stiched leather armour underneath Looks to me like the kind of leather stuff some of the new Slaves to Darkness models have, so I've got a feeling that it's more likely to be some poor guy's skin being worn by someone, rather than a balloon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, Snorri Nelriksson said: It's just me or does it seems the skull has a stitched leather ballon under? Grotbag Scuttlers!? Oh no! I cannot handle the hype! Although, I feel this will dash the hope of my cutlass wielding, tricorn rocking, sky pirate, dream for the army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmaug Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Fyrenn said: This is what it looks like to me... but I was figuring with also with some sort of open ended - i dunno, beaten and humiliated so he wanders off alone to get badder and tougher and maybe has some sort of epiphany with gorkamorka that brings him back 'improved' later in the destruction story. I don't think he's going to be a non-player for an edition allegedly destruction focused. Or maybe he breaches the gate to azyr to confront sigmar, the gate closes and it’s the last we see of him for an addition. Edited May 26, 2021 by Gothmaug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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