Mike Burgess Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 20 hours ago, wanderingrogue said: I'm fully of the opinion id be taking 10 man units even they wernt battline. they are that good in my opinion. in fact i even take them still when I'm messing about with a king general and have access to eel battleline . they are critical to IDK regardless of battle line restrictions That's a fair point. My only comment would be that there have been plenty of eel spam lists without Thralls that have performed well at tournaments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderingrogue Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 yea but i did better than em 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmimzie Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 The 10 man unit isn't too bad. It pack a lot of punch for 10 guys and you neve have to worry about them stepping on their own toes. Out side of that morrsarr or ishlaen can do most of the heavy lifting. Alot of times thralls sont get to start swinging till turn 2, and turn 3 you want to buff an alpha squad of ishlaen or morrsarr. So thralls are abit weird, but not tax because in a punch 10 thralls can put 8 wounds on something if you need them too, and dont fo poor when buffed by king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 My color scheme for Deepkins What do you think? 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 What did you use to get green? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 59 minutes ago, Tiger said: What did you use to get green? It's Vallejo 72.027 72.026 70.838 72.721 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Burgess Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 @DantePQ That looks absolutely fantastic! Real underwater vibe about them, I am looking at doing something similar but was struggling. The plan was to create a normally 'over water' colour scheme then add blues/greens into everything to make it seem under-watery (hope that makes sense) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Thanks it's only a test model I did with my friend to settle on scheme they will have amazing ruin-Atlantis bases. My friend will now take over and airbrush them, eels are first to go :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispersofblood Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I'm playing EotS next weekend I'll report back. Mostly taking him in place of 6 more Eels, for painting reasons. But, it's a smaller event so as good a time to test him for myself as any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratigo Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Hey guys, an IDK list took 4th overall. Neat huh (disclaimer: I know the guy and am hype manning for him :D) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozokus Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 What was he playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergi Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, kozokus said: What was he playing? https://imgur.com/a/HzTg8UO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledha Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 On 8/23/2018 at 10:03 AM, valenswift said: Had my second battle using IDK as part of a Firestorm campaign and I've managed to win again I had 1100 points to my Ironjawz opponents 1200 so I think i did pretty well, we played the Total Commitment battleplan. I got lucky in that one of his objectives was in a goomtide shipwreck so he refused to take it in fear of taking mortals on his Brutes. I don't understand why people freak out so much when facing a gloomtide shipwreck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valenswift Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 5 hours ago, ledha said: I don't understand why people freak out so much when facing a gloomtide shipwreck I know, it's only on a 4+ and it probably cost him the battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drofnum Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 People tend to avoid mortal wounds at all costs, even if its not likely they will suffer much from them. The nice thing for us is if you know that you can use your ship to bully them around the board and off objectives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsun Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, Drofnum said: People tend to avoid mortal wounds at all costs, even if its not likely they will suffer much from them. The nice thing for us is if you know that you can use your ship to bully them around the board and off objectives. While this is a nice tactic, it will only work at lower skill levels as higher level play the players will likely realize few wounds worth points that win the game. It's the same in Malifaux when people focus on killing over schemes and strategies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drofnum Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, newsun said: While this is a nice tactic, it will only work at lower skill levels as higher level play the players will likely realize few wounds worth points that win the game. It's the same in Malifaux when people focus on killing over schemes and strategies. It still works at higher skill levels as well, its less effective but still works. If you give someone the option of hitting a unit in a shipwreck where they can take mortals and hit a unit with a ward save or they can go after this similar unit that isnt that well protected they tend to hit the unprotected one. There are a lot more variables involved but it can still help with board control regardless of skill level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsun Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Drofnum said: It still works at higher skill levels as well, its less effective but still works. If you give someone the option of hitting a unit in a shipwreck where they can take mortals and hit a unit with a ward save or they can go after this similar unit that isnt that well protected they tend to hit the unprotected one. There are a lot more variables involved but it can still help with board control regardless of skill level. It's certainly a useful tool for board control. Just keep in mind the better player will ultimately look at what will win them the game and expend troops to do so. It does not matter if you have only 1 guy left on the table if you have more victory points when the game ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmimzie Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 8 hours ago, newsun said: It's certainly a useful tool for board control. Just keep in mind the better player will ultimately look at what will win them the game and expend troops to do so. It does not matter if you have only 1 guy left on the table if you have more victory points when the game ends. While this I'd also true the better ID player will also use the ship wrecks to screen the board to make them more powerful even outside of mortal wound production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsun Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 8 hours ago, mmimzie said: While this I'd also true the better ID player will also use the ship wrecks to screen the board to make them more powerful even outside of mortal wound production. I always have seen them mostly for the board control and everything else is gravy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderingrogue Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 aftet the faq the shipwrecks aren't allowed to be deployed anywhere near objectives 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Hi all, had anyone out there any success with non-eel lists? Reason is I don´t want to be a mainstream guy, but I´m pretty interested in Deepkin. I like the Thralls and Eidolons from a modelling / painting perspective and just wonder wether this would be any good. I´m not looking for tournament hotness, instead I´m looking for some fun casual games on a semi competetive level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drofnum Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 6 hours ago, wanderingrogue said: aftet the faq the shipwrecks aren't allowed to be deployed anywhere near objectives They have to be 6 inches away. A lot of the objectives are held by models within 6 so you can easily stay in the bubble, even the 3 inch ones are pretty easy to stay in the bubble. As for enemies you just try to get them blocking the objective in some way. Honestly the rules didn't change much with how I played them, we all knew it was going to change with how every other placable scenery works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmimzie Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Hannibal said: Hi all, had anyone out there any success with non-eel lists? Reason is I don´t want to be a mainstream guy, but I´m pretty interested in Deepkin. I like the Thralls and Eidolons from a modelling / painting perspective and just wonder wether this would be any good. I´m not looking for tournament hotness, instead I´m looking for some fun casual games on a semi competetive level. I think casually you could win some games with a thrall list but I'd keep the thrall numbers lower like 30-50 max as they very quickly start stepping on each others toes in an annoying way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmimzie Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 1:24 PM, Mark Williams said: He’s bringing them onto a table edge via soulscryer. Local player in my area does almost exact same area except 2 units of morsar and volturnos. He spends first three turns getting cogs onto the board, then the unit hits turn 3 with +5 to charge, uses eel flight to hop past blocking units, daisy chain into the heart of your army then apply 12 eels worth of mortal wounds to the bed stuff in your army, then volturnos blows 3cps and they kill whatever is left. Eel squad size is irrelevant. It’s just a brute force game over move most of the time. The only counter is attempting to kill whatever is on the board by turn 2, and also spreading out so that you don’t lose too much when the wrecking ball hits. Highly mobile, alpha strike, horde armies, with extremely high damage output have the best chance to counter. Not many of those... Was doing some back ready, and what?? Can't you only use the command ability in your hero phase and the eels can only drop down at the end of the movement phase. Meaning those eels would have to hit the table turn 2. Maybe his post Is just misleadingly written. Its definitely doable. I know I love me some eel bomb. Just the way that was written confuses me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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