Mike Burgess

Exactly the plan... The Treelord could still be used as a Treelord. The platform would be removable.

I'm planning on converting a Treelord holding a stone platform with both hands, which the Branchwych can stand on.

I like the first list. It's similar to what i've been running and I have had great success so far. Drycha with flitterfuries + branchwych bomb is great for mortal wound spreading, then I pick off the models which took the most damage with Alarielle. This is what i've been rocking: Alarielle the Everqueen (600) Throne of Vines Drycha Hamadreth (280) Verdant Blessing, Flitterfuries Branchwraith (80) General, Warsinger, Acorn of the Ages, Regrowth Branchwych (80) Silverwood Circlet, The Reaping 20 x Dryads (200) 10 x Dryads (100) 10 x Dryads (100) 6 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (320) Forest Folk (140) Balewind Vortex (40) Umbral Spellportal (60) Total: 2000 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 1

I'll be coming and have sent through payment, really looking forward to it!

Awesome win, congratulation James!

Similar to my thoughts, I think these are the points drops I would make: Sea: 380 (-60) Storm: 340 (-60) Volt: 260 (-20) King: 220 (-20) Foot characters: Fine Thralls: Fine Reavers: Fine Leviadon: 320 (-60) Eels: Fine (Maybe 200 for Morrsarr at a push?) Allopex: 100 (-40) Battalions: 20-40 point drops

I expect you'd go 3/5 games with it, it's such low model count that it would be scenario and match up dependant. People with low rend/mortal wound output would hate this list. Most people agree the aspect of storm and leviadon are notably inefficient for their points in modern AoS when you start to compare to newer armies, but I was trying to work within the models you provided. Havn't looked into enclave, magic items or spells as thought you'd have fun with that 🙂

You don't have a high model count so you would be looking at a very elite army. I don't think its actually possible to run the reverse tide list with your model collection as you would need atleast 3x10 Thralls/Reavers for your battleline. You could run something like this that would be able to compete at some level: LeadersVulturnos, High King of the Deep (280) - GeneralIsharann Soulscryer (100)Isharann Tidecaster (100)Eidolon of Mathlann, Aspect of the Storm (400)10 x Namarti Thralls (140)6 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (320)6 x Akhelian Ishlaen Guard (280)Akhelian Leviadon (380)Total: 2000 / 2000

Pretty standard and solid Gnarlroot build, main thing that looks out of place is the spells. I'd have verdant on the ranu's, regrowth on the acorn and throne of vines on Alarielle, this will allow you to cast those endless spells far more effectively as well as buffing her warscroll spell. Ranu's verdant is important in your list as a surprising amount of damage will come from your rousing the woods so you want many of them down. On a deeper level, I don't think you need Alarielle in Gnarlroot and are better off just taking more scythes/dryads maybe turning one of the units of revs into another unit of dryads to help you with objectives in a low model count army.

I would say they are middle of the pack for complexity. The army has a separate army wide mechanic every turn of the game. There are quite a few buffs eg auras for re-rolls, bonuses when charging, different damage profiles depending on the number of wounds you are fighting, command abilities that only work on specific turns of the game etc. I would also say if you forget some of these rules while playing you should still get a decent performance out of them. You could tailor your list to have less special rules, the first list I outlined is good for this, the turtle is a big pointed model with only one simple special rule.

Hi there, If you want a list that looks cool you are in safe hands with Idoneth Deepkin, the entire range looks incredible! One of the great things about this army is that almost all of the warscrolls can be put into a list and are solid. Of course there are a few stand out choices (Morrsarr eels) but it is one of the few armies where you could select your warscrolls at random and still end up with a reasonable army. I have tried to write you a couple of lists, but without trying to sound cliche I would recommend what ever models your friend likes the look of. Some people love the turtle, others love the eidolons etc. The first list has a nice mixture of models, the 2nd list is what I think a strongly competitive 1k list would look like. But I do think there are quite a few other options. Enclave: Mor’Phann Akhelian King (240) - General, Merciless Raider, Cloud of Midnight Isharann Soulrender (100) 10 x Namarti Thralls (140) 10 x Namarti Thralls (140) Akhelian Leviadon (380) Total: 1000 Enclave: Dhom-Hain Vulturnos, High King of the Deep (280) - General Isharann Soulscryer (100) - Dritchleech 3 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (160) 3 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (160) 3 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (160) 3 x Akhelian Ishlaen Guard (140) Total: 1000

This is the exact list I have been running to date with the addition of cogs. I think you want to leave 20 points spare to try and get a triumph. I think that can be important in that list due to Alarielle being so swingy. re-rolling hits/wounds/saves on a critical combat can make a big difference. Re-rolling amour saves from cogs is great and if you summon a 2nd set of scythes the +2 charge through a woods means you have a constant threat. Would be good to know what spells you have selected.

I'm currently experimenting with endless spells in Gnarlroot and will be trying this out tonight: Treelord Ancient (300) - General, Lord of Spites, Moonstone, Regrowth Branchwych (80) The Silverwood Circlet, The Reaping Branchwraith (80) Ranu's Lamentiri, Verdant Blessing Branchwraith (80) Throne of Vines 20 x Dryads (200) 5 x Tree-Revenants (80) 5 x Tree-Revenants (80) 6 x Kurnoth Hunters (400) - Scythes 3 x Kurnoth Hunters (200) - Greatswords Gnarlroot Wargrove (130) Household (100) Balewind Vortex (40) Umbral Spellportal (60) Chronomantic Cogs (60) Purple Sun of Shyish (100) Total: 1990 / 2000 I was running Alarielle but I think i'll get more value out of the 6 Scythes (assuming she summoned 3 to make the maths easy). Purple sun is really just for a bit of fun but think it might have some legs, the casting cost might cause frustrations with consistency. I think cogs is useful for the re-roll armour save on the TLA and also to keep that threat of throwing 9 hunters in on +2 to move and charge. Obviously the biggest concern is having 490 points in battalions and endless spells. Might have too few models on the table.

Any thoughts or advice on this list? Vulturnos, High King of the Deep (280) General Isharann Soulscryer (100) Eidolon of Mathlann, Aspect of the Storm (400) Sword of Judgement 20 x Namarti Thralls (280) 20 x Namarti Thralls (280) 6 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (320) 3 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (160) 3 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (160) Total: 1980 / 2000

With the change to mystic shield, defensive cogs on Alarielle is glorious. I actually used that ability far more than any other benefit from cogs, you just need to be clever with your positioning, thinking ahead about where Alarielle will be when she charges and not giving the enemy the ability to manipulate them.

@DantePQ That looks absolutely fantastic! Real underwater vibe about them, I am looking at doing something similar but was struggling. The plan was to create a normally 'over water' colour scheme then add blues/greens into everything to make it seem under-watery (hope that makes sense)

That's a fair point. My only comment would be that there have been plenty of eel spam lists without Thralls that have performed well at tournaments.

Again just to re-iterate I am not denying Thralls are good, although I think they are on-par with most equivalent battleline for their points e.g. Dryads, Judicators. They are just considered a tax when without the battleline restriction you would take something else.

In a lot of lists they can be considered a tax if you want to take a Tidecaster general. This means you cannot take eels as battleline. No-one is saying Thralls are bad but if most people had they choice they would take other options in the books over thralls if they were not in there to cover batteline. Especially as to cover battleline you would need to take 3x10 rather than 1x30 , meaning you don't get the horde point reduction and any buffs are less effective.

Looking forward to this one should be great fun!

I have grudged Terry and he has accepted if thats OK John?

@John Harrison I am still showing as unpaid

Yes please put me on reserves

I assume there is no longer space? If there is space could I put my name down!

Hi John - Please put me down for this Mike Burgess