SleeperAgent Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, XcaliburNick said: In theory it seems like a big block of 40 Chainrasps is actually fairly durable. 5+ ethereal and a 6+ ignore wounds should survive a single round, then give you a chance to run spectral lures and healing back. I know Nighthaunt are MSU but a single big block seems to make sense to me. Thoughts? That's your anvil, and it'll do a fine job. You don't want minimum sized unit rasps because a wave of terror with them is pretty poor. Run 20-40 and surround your important heroes like GoS and Spirit Torment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcaliburNick Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Experimenting with my first Nighthaunt List below. Advice really appreciated. I’d love to have a mounted Knight of Shrouds but didn’t have the points. Allegiance: NighthauntMortal Realm: ShyishGuardian of Souls with Nightmare Lantern (140)- Lore of the Underworlds: Spectral Tether- Infernal Lantern (Artefact): Beacon of NagashizzarLady Olynder, Mortarch of Grief (200)- General- Lore of the Underworlds: Soul CageKurdoss Valentian, the Craven King(180)Knight of Shrouds (100)40 x Chainrasp Horde (280)5 x Hexwraiths (140)5 x Hexwraiths (140)10 x Grimghast Reapers (160)10 x Grimghast Reapers (160)8 x Myrmourn Banshees (140)10 x Bladegheist Revenants (180)The Dolorous Guard (120)Extra Command Point (50)Total: 1990 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 122 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasygeek Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Just finished my Emerald host, though I have another 10 Hexwraith making it a total of 20. Just qurious but how many Hexwraith for which general do you guys run? 10 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thamalys Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 5 hours ago, XcaliburNick said: In theory it seems like a big block of 40 Chainrasps is actually fairly durable. 5+ ethereal and a 6+ ignore wounds should survive a single round, then give you a chance to run spectral lures and healing back. I know Nighthaunt are MSU but a single big block seems to make sense to me. Thoughts? Yes, 40 Rasps are quite durable - for Nighthaunt standards. Even more durable options (e.g. Spirit Hosts, Grimghast Reapers) are available, but you pay a hefty price for those. The Chainguard battalion is probably the best option you have to try and have them surviving more than one turn against decently killy units. I'd personally put the Wychlight Lantern on your Guardian of Souls, as maximising the chances of casting Spectral Lure with him is quite paramount. Even better, and if you can be bothered to bring some 80 Rasps, two blocks of 40 are quite tough to shift as a whole. Note however that there is a big difference between a 5+ and a 4+ ethereal save when large number of dice are involved... On a related note: I wouldn't say Nighthaunt are MSU. That's one way to play them, but I'm not sure is the most effective one - surely not in every scenario. MSUs marginally improve your chances of a Wave of Terror and give you more board control. True. However, MSUs deal very little damage even when attacking twice in a row, and you end up with a ton of drops that can be deleted very easily by most of your opponent. Remember, we are no LoN - our units do not come back. I personally run big blocks to maximise damage, increase resilience and taking advantage of the regiment discounts (very important given how costly our models are). My lists tend to include 9 Spirit Hosts (good luck getting rid of them if your general has Ruler of the Spirit Hosts...), 30 Reapers and 20 Revenants - three big blocks with decent staying power. Would you risk a Wave of Terror with 3 units of 10 Reapers, or would you bank on piling 20 of them in? I know what I would do 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thamalys Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 59 minutes ago, Greasygeek said: Just finished my Emerald host The sword of the KoS is fantastic - top job! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evillincoln547 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Ghosts had a good day! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Finished a scratch-built KoS to go with my custom Kurdoss (who isnt finished yet) Will take pics when I get home 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casandora Yellow Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 @Greasygeek Please tell me how to did the Knight of Shrouds!😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnixLHQ Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Thamalys said: On a related note: I wouldn't say Nighthaunt are MSU. That's one way to play them, but I'm not sure is the most effective one - surely not in every scenario. Quoted for truth. MSUs usually mean support threat units, Bladegheists for example. Or Reapers if they weren't your main threat force. And even then if you are building your list around getting Wave of Terror off, you are balancing that over losing the units you send in on the eventual counter attack. Moreso if you never land WoT. Personally, I run both. If I have an enemy with a lot of units I'll lean more on MSU. If they are more elite-ish, big blobs. And no matter what I go with my workhorse units are usually full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evillincoln547 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Paint whole army like this? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Well here goes... my first custom built Nighthaunt. The whole range was so spectacular I didnt feel the need for my usual amount of conversion and kitbashing so far. Bits from hexwraith kit, mortis engine, a large sheathed sword and lots of sculpting Edited March 4, 2020 by Neck-Romantic 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Originally planned for the sheathed sword to be across his back but the hip placement covered some less than perfect sculpting 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasygeek Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Casandora Yellow said: @Greasygeek Please tell me how to did the Knight of Shrouds!😍 Just the sword or the entire model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casandora Yellow Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Greasygeek said: Just the sword or the entire model? I wanna say the whole model if you dont mind 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evillincoln547 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 My test subjects 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dudemeister Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Beautiful! Inspired by Dana Howl perchance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evillincoln547 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 hours ago, The_Dudemeister said: Beautiful! Inspired by Dana Howl perchance? Yes very much inspired lol. Here’s the knight 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperAgent Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Won another game tonight. It was Legion of Grief but I never got to use any abilities. None of my entire units died so I couldn't bring em back. So essentially I played Nighthaunt without any command traits, allegiance abilities, or artifacts. Against Ogor Mawtribes foot boys (not BCR) at 1500 points. Wanted to use Horrorghast but it just wouldn't fit. Allegiance: Legion of GriefMortal Realm: GhurLady Olynder, Mortarch of Grief (200)- General- Spell: Dread WitheringSpirit Torment (120)- Artefact: Gryph-feather Charm Knight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed (120)20 x Chainrasp Horde (160)10 x Chainrasp Horde (80)12 x Myrmourn Banshees (210)Mourngul (280)Mourngul (280)Prismatic Palisade (30)Suffocating Gravetide (20)Total: 1500 / 1500Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 200Wounds: 80 The only thing LoG I did was gravesite 2 Banshees back and cast Dread Withering once. Grief Stricken was the mvp. I usually cannot cast spells for any amount of dice rolling, but I got it off every single turn and it was not unbound. Stacking that and a Mourngul aura is brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayul Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Are you aware of the Legion of Grief thread? @SleeperAgent Edited March 7, 2020 by Bayul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperAgent Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bayul said: Are you aware of the Legion of Grief thread? @SleeperAgent I am. I just usually post in here because Nighthaunt is what I normally run. This time it was because basically no LoG stuff was actually used. I dont know how you guys and your opponents play but I rarely seem to lose an entire unit so Endless Legions didn't do anything for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dudemeister Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 How did you not lose entire units to Ogors? 😲 For me they always feel like one of the toughest matchups for Nighthaunt, even before Tzeentch and Petrifexiarch Elitereapers. They bring way too many wounds to the table for a faction that hits so hard. Without a few Wave of Terrors, they retaliate as if I had done nothing before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperAgent Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, The_Dudemeister said: How did you not lose entire units to Ogors? 😲 For me they always feel like one of the toughest matchups for Nighthaunt, even before Tzeentch and Petrifexiarch Elitereapers. They bring way too many wounds to the table for a faction that hits so hard. Without a few Wave of Terrors, they retaliate as if I had done nothing before. He didnt have any ironguts yet. And combining Mounrgul -1 to hit alongside Grief-Stricken -1 to hit really keeps them in check. I did lose the chainrasp horde of 20 on bottom 3. But there was no reason to bring em back since they'd be out of range to do anything. Edited March 7, 2020 by SleeperAgent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Allegiance: NighthauntMortal Realm: HyshLeadersKnight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed (120)- General- Command Trait: Ruler of the Spirit Hosts - Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch Guardian of Souls with Nightmare Lantern(140)- Lore of the Underworlds: Soul CageSpirit Torment (120)The Briar Queen (180)- Lore of the Underworlds: ShademistVampire Lord (140)- Mount: Flying Horror- AlliesBattleline9 x Spirit Hosts (360)10 x Chainrasp Horde (80)10 x Chainrasp Horde (80)20 x Grimghast Reapers (320)Units10 x Bladegheist Revenants (180)6 x Thorns of the Briar Queen (0)BehemothsMourngul (280)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 140 / 400Wounds: 119 So going to try and run this list, had a test game against Beast claw and while I lost, I misplayed with my heros and didn't fall back from combat, so I lost my guardian and vampire, which ment I lost my bladeghiests. Reapers were bad against ogors but that's not a fault of the unit, I used them as a bait against mournfang 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thamalys Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 11:20 PM, adreal said: Allegiance: NighthauntMortal Realm: HyshLeadersKnight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed (120)- General- Command Trait: Ruler of the Spirit Hosts - Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch Guardian of Souls with Nightmare Lantern(140)- Lore of the Underworlds: Soul CageSpirit Torment (120)The Briar Queen (180)- Lore of the Underworlds: ShademistVampire Lord (140)- Mount: Flying Horror- AlliesBattleline9 x Spirit Hosts (360)10 x Chainrasp Horde (80)10 x Chainrasp Horde (80)20 x Grimghast Reapers (320)Units10 x Bladegheist Revenants (180)6 x Thorns of the Briar Queen (0)BehemothsMourngul (280)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 140 / 400Wounds: 119 So going to try and run this list, had a test game against Beast claw and while I lost, I misplayed with my heros and didn't fall back from combat, so I lost my guardian and vampire, which ment I lost my bladeghiests. Reapers were bad against ogors but that's not a fault of the unit, I used them as a bait against mournfang This, sir, is a solid Nighthaunt list IMHO - best of luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIBROWshapist Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Hi guys, Did a little write up of a list I’ve been having some success with, over on the Honest Wargamer page. https://thehonestwargamer.com/aos-list-rundowns/spartans-prepare-for-doloury/ Leaders Knight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed(120) - General - Command Trait: Ruler of the Spirit Hosts - Artefact: Pendant of the Fell Wind Reikenor the Grimhailer (170) - Lore of the Underworlds: Soul Cage Guardian of Souls with Nightmare Lantern(140) - Lore of the Underworlds: Spectral Tether - Infernal Lantern (Artefact) : Lightshard of the Harvest Moon Guardian of Souls with Nightmare Lantern(140) - Lore of the Underworlds: Shademist Battleline 10 x Hexwraiths (280) 10 x Hexwraiths (280) 10 x Hexwraiths (280) 20 x Chainrasp Horde (160) Behemoths Black Coach (220) Battalions The Dolorous Guard (120) Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs Soulsnare Shackles (40) Extra Command Point (50) Total: 2000 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 2 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 115 Has been lots of fun! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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