Kramer Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Hi all, I'm just curious. What convinces you to buy a model? Is it the 'coolness' of the model? Or maybe the fluff of the model/your army? Or do you pick solely on the effectiveness on the battlefield? Or any other reason. Personally it's the combination of fluff and model. Love the witch elf fluff, but i don't like the model so I keep postponing them. The old executioner models were reason enough to start a 2.000 pt Dark Elf army. And currently i'm looking to the Slaanesh lord on deamonic mount thinking: ah just one more army... So let me know what's your story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I definitely like to consider fluff first, it is a decent say, 30% of a models coolness for me. And then I consider effectiveness - I don't really want to build an army of something that won't do very well. But, for example, my current favourite model is the Weirdnob, which is generally slated as not worth the points in a competitive Ironjawz list. But it looks super cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHHaunts Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 obviously it depends greatly on the intention of the army. I personally have one competivie army where its all based on as much synergy and effectiveness as possible. However all my other armies follow the rule of cool and personal preference. I for instance like to have a theme and wont just buy random models for an arm but dont generally care to much about in depth list building. Right now i have a "Spectral" undead army consisting of the following: Nagash (Dont really use him in many games though) Arkhan the Black Mortis Engine Wight King 2X Necromancers 4X Cairn Wraiths 1X Banshee 50 X Skeleton Warriors 20 X Grave Guard 10 X Hexwraiths 6X spirit Hosts 10X Black Knights. 5 X Blood Knights. Obviously there are lots of different types there but i paint them all under a Ghostly theme. The skeletons are all ghosts and i have created "Dread Wraith knights" which i proxy as blood knights. The only things that arent ghosts are the leaders and summoners like the Arkhan and the Necromancers. however i also have a "No skin" rule in my army. So the Necromancers and Corpsemaster have been converted to Liches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Grimwood Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 It's a combination of fluff and look for me. There needs to something which sparks my interest in the fluff, both in the rule books and BL novels. I also need to like how the models looks and crucially how much I enjoy painting them. If I don't enjoy painting them I simply just won't finish them also I don't want to spend my hobby time painting something and not enjoying doing it. I'd say the rule of cool overrides effectiveness with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, KHHaunts said: i also have a "No skin" rule in my army. Haha always a sensible rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 46 minutes ago, Ollie Grimwood said: There needs to something which sparks my interest in the fluff, both in the rule books and BL novels. Yeah I think this is something im still searching for in AoS armies. But i'm trying to catch up with some novels to find inspiration. Besides that the future of Slaanesh is still uncertain, the inspiration I have for the army is only based on the old world fluff. But we'll see. It's easier to get creative on a black slate after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftmus Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I get pretty much no time to actually play so most of my purchases are based on whether I like the models. However I do look around for lists online for inspiration about how to use certain units, what sizes are best etc so that I can build towards a functional army for when I do get a chance to game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Think it changes as I progress with an army. Initially it'll be 100% what looks nice and what I fancy painting. I tend to play a few games and then look for units/models that add missing components to the army - so for AoS it might be a lack of rend or feet on the ground. Then I'll probably just keep an eye out for quirky units that nobody else tends to field and models/conversions that appeal to me on the painting/modelling front. No hard and fast rule really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Explorator Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 At this point I am mostly a converter/modeler, so my purchases are mostly driven by the inspiration I get from the kit, followed by the amount of good bits I get out of the purchase. There's nothing worse than cracking open a new kit and finding it lacks a variance of bits. Following that, budget has a major impact, so recently most my mini purchases have been start collecting boxes, though I have been eyeing some more expensive kits for conversion I just have to try (Demigriffs for a Chaos Lord on Demonic Steed and the Witch Elf Shrine to turn into a Warshrine). After those considerations, rule of cool tends to beat matched play effectiveness. My first priority is to have enough minis build and painted for a full game matched play, my chances of winning be damned. Once I have that, I'll propably look to develope that force into one that can win a game, but I'd say I'm about a year removed from that, even without the curveball I expect an eventual Arcanites release to throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 For me it's a combination. I tend to pick an army based on theme, which for me is both fluff and aesthetics, and then expand on that. Given that I play a fair bit though, I tend to reach out for other units based on their utility, but try to find analogues that fit my theme so it all feels coherent. So, for example, my Death force is entirely made of truly dead things that are stumbling shadows of their former, mortal selves. As a result I run no Vampires and converted my Vamp Lord on Zombie Dragon to be more of a Wight King with a touch of ethereal fire. The Necromancers are all skeletal with ethereal fire and souls swirling around it, things like that. It's how I approach pretty much all my armies. E.g., my Gue'vesa force for 40K are all humans converted with Tau weaponry as analogues, etc, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Mostly things I like visually and are easy to paint. I will add a piece here or there to make my army more effective. I tend to just buy models I like and then build the army out of what I have depending on the scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith'ari Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I choose using the one golden rule: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarbear Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 For me it has to come down to how much I actually want to paint the model/unit. I've bought lots of models in the past to fill a need in the army I was building, and those were almost always the biggest slogs for me to paint. I spend 95% of my time with models building and painting them, so that has to come first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAL Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 For me it depends on how much of an army I have. For my main dark elf army I'm still trying to build good lists so I base it on effectiveness. But for smaller AoS stuff I have or breaking into 40k its a mix of models and fluff that I like and having the stats and rules not be terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Alec Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I look for the story, the rules and the model. It's not a very specific thing though. I bought Nagash because his model is amazing and his story is great, even if I will almost never play him. I bought the Black Coach, even though the rules are so-so and the model isn't great. But I love the idea (or my version of it). I bought Apophas, even though I think his background is silly and the rules are mediocre. But the model is fantastic. So yeah, you have to have at least one of those. Most importantly a great model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 2 hours ago, AAL said: having the stats and rules not be terrible. So if it's completely unplayable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I've found that pretty much everything in the game is good enough to play it. Everything has a role. This is especially true for me, as a Death Alliance player, because many of the units in my book are summonable. I just started working on some bat swarms because, hell, if I'm playing my Flesh Eaters and run up against a gunline, it might be nice to summon some bats in my opponents' grill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Definitely coolness first for me. I won't buy cool stuff that doesn't fit an army plan though, so a bit of both. However, whilst a cool model might not get bought because it doesn't fit, I'm more than happy to start a new army to give me an excuse to pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alasdair Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Coolness matters 100% to me. If a model isn't cool and painted to the best of my ability I won't put it on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAL Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Kramer said: So if it's completely unplayable? Or comes as a worse option. For example I love the karibdyss model but I cannot see a reason to build it instead of a war hydra. But yes I prefer all my models to be playable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoe Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 My wanderer army is 100% coolfactor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith'ari Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 52 minutes ago, Shoe said: My wanderer army is 100% coolfactor. Argh! I've been trying to resist doing a small wanderer force for about a month. This does not help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Pre-AoS, I picked armies based on fluff and visuals, then bought within the army based on effectiveness. Post-AoS, it's all about the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 7 hours ago, AAL said: Or comes as a worse option. For example I love the karibdyss model but I cannot see a reason to build it instead of a war hydra. But yes I prefer all my models to be playable See, that's the beauty of Original AoS. Build cool, make up for perceived deficiencies with more models. No "if I take this, I can't afford to take that" issues. Matched play leaves karib on the sidelines, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 12 hours ago, AAL said: Or comes as a worse option. For example I love the karibdyss model but I cannot see a reason to build it instead of a war hydra. But yes I prefer all my models to be playable Oh thats tough. I luckily like the greek hydra fluff so for me its no hard choice. But I get what your saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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