ArcLight Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Didn't they say somewhere that all the battletomes would be updated by the end of the year? Which would put FEC as a December release most likely. Unless I imagined that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDM Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) I can honestly see a triumph of Saint Catherine model centre peice for FEC! Just think of the gore and 'banners'. They'd be so proud of its splendour while the rest of us 🤮 Edited July 25, 2023 by CDM 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganigumo Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 There's often a big release in the late october-November timeframe isn't there? So FEC being there isn't surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, Chikout said: That’s exactly what I’m expecting. The big question is what comes between that and Skaven. Chorfs confirmed once again? Seriously though, we still didn't get an completely new factions yet this edition (depending on how you count Kruleboyz). No guarantee we will, but I think it is possible that we could still see one. Kurnothi, Chaos Dwarves or another new Destruction faction are all somewhat likely. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, Ganigumo said: There's often a big release in the late october-November timeframe isn't there? So FEC being there isn't surprising. That probably either the full city release or the two codex release of SM and Tyranids with their models as both are roadmap for that section of the year. the mystery tome (most likely FeC) is stated for winter which for GW is usually January to early March as the latest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 35 minutes ago, ArcLight said: Didn't they say somewhere that all the battletomes would be updated by the end of the year? Which would put FEC as a December release most likely. Unless I imagined that... Generally they don’t release much in December outside of one week of specialist game release because they close for winter break for the holidays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Nezzhil said: Ushoran How cool would it be if the ghoul standing on the statue (whether Ushoran or an Abhorrant or whatever) also had a beard, and this statue was how he looked before gradually turning into a horrible monster? Like an Ozymandias atop his own shattered visage? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 30 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Chorfs confirmed once again? Seriously though, we still didn't get an completely new factions yet this edition (depending on how you count Kruleboyz). No guarantee we will, but I think it is possible that we could still see one. Kurnothi, Chaos Dwarves or another new Destruction faction are all somewhat likely. Chorfs are coming! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganigumo Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, novakai said: That probably either the full city release or the two codex release of SM and Tyranids with their models as both are roadmap for that section of the year. the mystery tome (most likely FeC) is stated for winter which for GW is usually January to early March as the latest. Ah right it might get dominated by 40k, but I think cities will probably be earlier than that? Sometime in september maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Chorfs confirmed once again? Seriously though, we still didn't get an completely new factions yet this edition (depending on how you count Kruleboyz). No guarantee we will, but I think it is possible that we could still see one. Kurnothi, Chaos Dwarves or another new Destruction faction are all somewhat likely. Let's look at previous AoS editions to answer that question : As the quote says, there's always be new armies every edition of AoS (just like with 40k editions now), except 3rd edition... (depends if you count KB). Also historically, there's also always been a brand new army right before a new edition : Idoneth happened right before 2nd came out, and SBGL right before 3rd dropped. Add to that the fact that with FEC getting their BT in winter, that means all BTs will be done by early 2024. And that leaves the whole spring of 2024 completely open for a release. How could GW fill that gap ? With a new army, just like they did with IDK and SBGL. What's the army that could happen ? Chorfs, since they got a Warcry band out of nowhere, having been teased as "coming to Thondia", and the hobgrots' having a distinct art direction from KBs. I don't see a whole trimester of nothingness for AoS between FEC and 4th. That's why I also think Chorfs are coming. Edited July 25, 2023 by The Lost Sigmarite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 It largely depends on if 4th is going to be a total reset like 10th (there is a trend that every 3 edition GW reset their system) if there is a reset, then the new army coming in Spring would have their battletome last a month or two before it becomes void. yes World eater only had like 4-5 months before their codex got invalidated by tenth but we are assuming that FeC tome in Winter will also have that similar lifespan. there could also be maybe one or two more Dawnbringer books but who know if there is any after the 4th one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) NecroMonda- I mean... Tuesday? Huh. Anyway this new Squat could easily be the basis for some Kharadron conversions I reckon. Edited July 25, 2023 by Clan's Cynic 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDM Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Can everyone remember the time there was no love for death or Aelves in AoS. I legitimately remember the clamour for some form of aelven release as they were being neglected 🤣 It did just come to my thoughts as there is a massive appetite for dwarves of all varieties. As well as a second wave for FS and KO I do believe the second wave of COS will include the mixed units that we want to see plus some standalone Aelves and dwarves that tie in well with the aesthetic. On top of all that, if we don't get anything cog related will we see a Grey water fastness supplement one day? Would love to see some diesel/steam punk inspired Ironweld Arsenal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWarhammer Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 17 hours ago, CDM said: Have you tried Etsy? What do you mean? I know Etsy; there are great 3D prints, resin-models etc. I have plenty of other terrain. I can build my own. But the old Empire kits from GW have a certain charm, lots of nice little details. Maybe it’s a little bit of a collectors thing. I have Skullvane Manse, the ruin and this super modular wizard-tower kit which shares parts with the tower-ruin. They are all great kits with awesome dimensionality. 6 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Would be great to have them back. I just finished painting the manor kit and it has a lot of great, flavourful bits. However, I feel like GW is not going to put these kits back into production. Their terrain generally seems to have a much shorter shelf life than their miniatures. You can't even buy the Thondian Strongpoint anymore right now, and that set is from this edition. In general, I am feeling a bit apprehensive right now about GW's Old World marketing. It seems to me that they are showing entirely too many old models for them to realistically make them all available again. I can already see people online hyping themselves up like it's a sure thing that all kinds of old metal models will be returning. It feels like the community is setting themselves up for disappointment once again, even though we just went through the same thing when people were expecting new plastic models. Maybe you’re right. But hope dies last. I think they are showing an awful lot of old models in their promo shots. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) FYI the GW Investor report is up for thoose who want to read it here is Roundtree’s highlight for AoS surprise he mention GSG as their release was not that big but hey being name drop is always nice. Edited July 25, 2023 by novakai 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, CDM said: Can everyone remember the time there was no love for death or Aelves in AoS. I legitimately remember the clamour for some form of aelven release as they were being neglected 🤣 It did just come to my thoughts as there is a massive appetite for dwarves of all varieties. As well as a second wave for FS and KO I do believe the second wave of COS will include the mixed units that we want to see plus some standalone Aelves and dwarves that tie in well with the aesthetic. On top of all that, if we don't get anything cog related will we see a Grey water fastness supplement one day? Would love to see some diesel/steam punk inspired Ironweld Arsenal I remember stating a few times on here that Aelves needed the overhaul and focus for narrative and lore reasons. Namely they were last seen devoured by a chaos god who was in turn chained and bound between dimensional planes. I think that they did a fantastic job between the Lumineth, Daughters of Khaine, and Idoneth Deepkin. Obviously we still need to see a return of Malerion (and Tyrion) but the lore and direction of the Aelven factions seems to be solidly guided and understood now. Which means that it is time for the Duardin to get some much needed love and attention. Yes Duardin were in a much better place at the start of AOS in terms of lore, narrative and tabletop presence but since then have continued to slide into the background and their is little for them in the current setting driving their conflicts and stories beyond Gotrek and the set up involving Grungni. I think that they will take centre stage in the narrative going forward and with Chaos Dwarves being hinted at and the thought of them reclaiming their old holds across the realms, I feel like Duardin are going to be a major presence in the next edition. The fact that we might get Skaven as the enemy faction in the next edition box makes this feel even more pressing and interesting. Edited July 25, 2023 by Neverchosen 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jator Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 From the Financial Report: How "soon" could be "soon"? Autumn? Christmas? Not soon at all? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Randomly in November like Middle earth strategy game with all the Christmas battleboxes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Neverchosen said: I remember stating a few times on here that Aelves needed the overhaul and focus for narrative and lore reasons. Namely they were last seen devoured by a chaos god who was in turn chained and bound between dimensional planes. I think that they did a fantastic job between the Lumineth, Daughters of Khaine, and Idoneth Deepkin. Obviously we still need to see a return of Malerion (and Tyrion) but the lore and direction of the Aelven factions seems to be solidly guided and understood now. Which means that it is time for the Duardin to get some much needed love and attention. Yes Duardin were in a much better place at the start of AOS in terms of lore, narrative and tabletop presence but since then have continued to slide into the background and their is little for them in the current setting driving their conflicts and stories beyond Gotrek and the set up involving Grungni. I think that they will take centre stage in the narrative going forward and with Chaos Dwarves being hinted at and the thought of them reclaiming their old holds across the realms, I feel like Duardin are going to be a major presence in the next edition. The fact that we might get Skaven as the enemy faction in the next edition box makes this feel even more pressing and interesting. That's because of their height... When great tall aelves or humans take the front rows of narrative importance, the duardins are relegated to the background, and you can't see them there because they're too short. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: That's because of their height... When great tall aelves or humans take the front rows of narrative importance, the duardins are relegated to the background, and you can't see them there because they're too short. Warhammer elfs are not that tall either they generally shorter then humans but just more agile and speedy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jator said: From the Financial Report: How "soon" could be "soon"? Autumn? Christmas? Not soon at all? I'd be surprised if it's any less than two months after Legions Imperialis. November seems like a good shout if it's 2023. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganigumo Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, novakai said: It largely depends on if 4th is going to be a total reset like 10th (there is a trend that every 3 edition GW reset their system) if there is a reset, then the new army coming in Spring would have their battletome last a month or two before it becomes void. yes World eater only had like 4-5 months before their codex got invalidated by tenth but we are assuming that FeC tome in Winter will also have that similar lifespan. there could also be maybe one or two more Dawnbringer books but who know if there is any after the 4th one Oh I hope they don't reset, although the only reset we've ever gotten for "fantasy" was the shift to AOS. I think the reason 40k gets so many resets is because of, to put it bluntly, bad rules writing. The power level of the 9th edition books were off the wall, but also the core rules always find a way to jam in a bunch of bloat that just makes the game worse, even the 10th ed rules, which they cut back on stuff for to reduce bloat, still had a lot of bloat. From what I can tell though (even anecdotally) a lot of 40k players claim to enjoy how complex the game is, and dislike the idea of cutting even the bad complexity. To the point where GW felt the need to make addressing that a part of their marketing push. Thats not to say AoS is completely innocent in terms of bad complexity, there's definitely some stuff added in 3e that should just get the axe. I find theres a massive difference in how the AoS and 40k players see their games too, the AoS community is seems much more informed about good game design, and a lot of the AoS content creators will talk not just about the rules and power of the stuff, but also if things are well designed, and AoS players are often happy when bad complexity is addressed. Meanwhile I rarely see 40k players or content creators talk much about the design of the games. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 I believe people said there was a reset in 4th in fantasy but it was before my time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Also there is a lot of Horus Heresy stuff suppose to happen between now and the end of the year judging by their roadmap lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 39 minutes ago, novakai said: Warhammer elfs are not that tall either they generally shorter then humans but just more agile and speedy what the what? since when? I feel like High Elves are generally taller than humans, in WHF games. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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