Josh Meads Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 17 hours ago, Baardah said: I've seen guesses of that staff head being from a slaneesh worshiping aelf. And if that is true, that they have merged aelf and slaneesh and freakin rage quit all over again... I thought this would be a real thing with AoS. Nagash worshipping Chaos Warriors, Malekith worshipping Vampires Sigmar worshipping Orcs etc etc. I'd probably go all in for some Chaos worshipping elfs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I need chaos warriors with Khorne and Stormcast quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changer Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Well there we have it. The Tzaangors look to be for AoS and have a separate sprue with pistols and chai swords. Main sprue pics attached. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Yeah. I just saw this. What a weird release. There are clearly more than 5 torsos, 8 sets of horns, standard bearer options etc, but none of this is on the box art. This really feels like a last minute addition to the wrath of Magnus book. It is, however, proof that Arcanites are coming soon to AOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnmane Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 32 minutes ago, Changer said: Well there we have it. The Tzaangors look to be for AoS and have a separate sprue with pistols and chai swords. Main sprue pics attached. Those swords! I just insta-converted to Arcanites. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changer Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 That massive double handed broadsword on the bottom right of the last image for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 28 minutes ago, Chikout said: Yeah. I just saw this. What a weird release. There are clearly more than 5 torsos, 8 sets of horns, standard bearer options etc, but none of this is on the box art. This really feels like a last minute addition to the wrath of Magnus book. It is, however, proof that Arcanites are coming soon to AOS. They would have had to made that decision before the book was finalized. Its not a sprue with just swords and pistols either - they do have arms on that. It all kind of circles back to Sad Panda's comment on similar assets. They're making use of it and Tzaangors were in 40K before, so why not? The best part is that I didn't expect a dual system kit for that price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I bet the new LoC is with the AoS release... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnmane Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 So now the big question is: What ELSE from the Silver Tower is coming back as part of a larger release (Apart from the rest of the Arcanites stuff)? The Aelves? As long as it's not the Grot Scutlings... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 12 minutes ago, daedalus81 said: They would have had to made that decision before the book was finalized. Its not a sprue with just swords and pistols either - they do have arms on that. It all kind of circles back to Sad Panda's comment on similar assets. They're making use of it and Tzaangors were in 40K before, so why not? The best part is that I didn't expect a dual system kit for that price. I'm not saying it is a bad idea (I'm all for wacky stuff like Tzaangors appearing in 40k), it is just weird. Why do box art and publicity shots that make the kit seem much worse than it is? It is clear that this was not originally intended to be a 40k kit. I wonder if they were doing some testing, then decided they needed a meat shield unit in the book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Dawnmane said: So now the big question is: What ELSE from the Silver Tower is coming back as part of a larger release (Apart from the rest of the Arcanites stuff)? The Aelves? As long as it's not the Grot Scutlings... The Kairic acolytes will get a box. The blue and brimstone horrors are in 40k now so they will get a box. At the moment the AOS Tzeentch release will probably look like this: loc horrors Tzaangors Kairic acolytes a few clam packs. I hope they will add a new unit to the mix, something along the lines of the blight kings. That would make it a pretty perfect release for me. Edit. Totally misread that quote. All the heroes are already out. The Aelf heroes will probably be incorporated into a battletome at some point. Edited November 25, 2016 by Chikout 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changer Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Well I'm ordered two boxes of the Tzaangors straight away. 10 with shields and 10 with two hand weapons. very excited about them. There are so many bits on those sprues. I'm wondering if the warscroll will be in with the instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrAiKo Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Here's a perfect example where having more flexible unit sizes would be a big help (one of my suggestions for GHv2). Bestigors currently have a minimum unit size of 10, so assuming Tzaangors will follow suit. At least let us pick 15 so we can use 10 in a box + 5 of the Silver Tower models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malin Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Who knows, maybe Tzaangors will be horde unit in AoS like bloodreavers and for this game will be packed 20 in box without 40k sprue. Just a wild guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changer Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Not even sure that'd work though. I bet the choices are dual weapons or sword and shield. Also looking at the sprue I bet it's one special weapon (big axe or big sword) per 10, so there wouldn't be a way of using more than 3 of the ST tzaangors in a single unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malin Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Whatever it will be, Must resist the urge to buy this box, must resist the urge, those weapons are not that cool, must resist the urge, Tzeentch be praised, I really don't need those models right now... Urge resisted, for now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastair Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 The Thousand Sons book will have tzeentch daemons in it, so if there's new daemon models (like a LoC) coming soon then we probably would have heard about them by now? As they'd be featured in that book too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Explorator Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I think the weirdest part about those Tzaangor is that they aren't marketed for AoS at all. No warscroll or mention of using them in AoS in the new White Dwarf, that I've heard of (will get mine tomorrow). Not added to the AoS area of the NZ webstore. No full pictures of the (clearly existing) fully painted AoS version of the unit. Nothing. And yet, those sprues clearly looks like a full AoS kit with some Autopistols and Chainswords thrown in. Still, this makes me really happy. Those sprues and the 360 look so much better than hoped. I'll get myself two boxes asap, alongside the Exalted Sorcerers just for the bits and Disk of Tzeentch. I'll find some use for the Marine Parts sooner or later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarbear Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 GW has been doing a lot of funny stuff with their packaging ever since AoS hit. The description on the site doesn't even acknowledge the shields on the sprues, and it looks like the box doesn't acknowledge the obvious AoS use for the models either. Why do that, and why put in the extra cost to make two boxes, if they go that route? Few other similar examples in the last year and a half. Just a bit bizarre but I like the tzaangors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Explorator Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Anyone else wonder whats up with the arms on the third sprue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrAiKo Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Malin said: Whatever it will be, Must resist the urge to buy this box, must resist the urge, those weapons are not that cool, must resist the urge, Tzeentch be praised, I really don't need those models right now... Urge resisted, for now... Don't worry, I'm sure there's no power in the mortal realms that could possible change your mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changer Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 6 hours ago, Rogue Explorator said: Anyone else wonder whats up with the arms on the third sprue? The arms have the chest piece on them. It looks like they'll fit to the front of the back. Seems to be a similar setup on the basic weapons too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 18 hours ago, Josh Meads said: I thought this would be a real thing with AoS. Nagash worshipping Chaos Warriors, Malekith worshipping Vampires Sigmar worshipping Orcs etc etc. I'd probably go all in for some Chaos worshipping elfs Stormcast who follow Nagash! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 11 hours ago, Rogue Explorator said: I think the weirdest part about those Tzaangor is that they aren't marketed for AoS at all. No warscroll or mention of using them in AoS in the new White Dwarf, that I've heard of (will get mine tomorrow). Not added to the AoS area of the NZ webstore. No full pictures of the (clearly existing) fully painted AoS version of the unit. Nothing. And yet, those sprues clearly looks like a full AoS kit with some Autopistols and Chainswords thrown in. Still, this makes me really happy. Those sprues and the 360 look so much better than hoped. I'll get myself two boxes asap, alongside the Exalted Sorcerers just for the bits and Disk of Tzeentch. I'll find some use for the Marine Parts sooner or later. From my PoV it's simple - I think it's a simple matter of it being too tricky to launch both 40k and AoS Tzeentch at once and hit their sales targets for each. They prep'd the models that can work for both at the same time but they can't launch both at once and promote each as effectively. Each is also part of a much larger product release plan. For 40k you've got Magnus, Thousand sons and some more Fenrisian stuff (probably books?). For AoS you might have the Arcanites opponent - most of the rumouring we've been doing focuses around the Arcanites launching with an opponent. Maybe the Tzaangors aren't coming in a separate box for a while? Maybe they're coming in a starter kit with a bunch of other stuff first. Also, perhaps the AoS paraphanelia isn't fully ready yet. Maybe all Tzaangor stuff is ready but the rest of the arcanite release isn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) It's missing the great axe option, and that great big longsword looks like a special weapon option, So I'd expect another sprue to be released with the AoS version, and the rules to be changed. Edit : I see two great axes. So I suspect it'll be a unit of 10 with the leader with the great sword, 2 great axes and then generic weapons for the rest, either way it looks like the rules will be altered if they want to use that great sword. Edited November 26, 2016 by Arkiham New idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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