Ejecutor Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 34 minutes ago, Magnusaur said: I may have just been missing the forest for the trees or my coldblooded nature makes me slow to catch on, but... Has it been rumored/speculated/suggested that the rebooted Cities of Sigmar's de-emphasis on the interspecies composition of the Cities was informed by a need to free up those older Dwarf/Dark Elf/Empire kits for The Old World? What's been the TGA take on this? There are two different sides here, like in the BOC case. 1. Those who think that's the case, and they are not going to be renewed. 2. Those who think we will have renewing waves for them later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Guys, calm down about about the squattings, removals and potential range refreshes. We have no clue about what the core rules of the new edition will be besides the small breadcrumbs GW gives us everyday on WarCom - and that's already enough to keep us talking here for hours. We don't know anything about new minis besides Skaven vs SCE (because it was annonced) and "Chorfs coming back sometimes in the next 3 years". Rest is just unhinged speculation. Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day and so is AoS. We can't have range refreshes for Cities, whatever happens to BOC, Malerion and whatever GW puts up all at the same time. Let them cook. So far, it has worked pretty well, because if not, you wouldn't be talking about it with excitement, right ? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scáthborn Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 15 minutes ago, RyantheFett said: As a Cities player who got into the faction for the mix race stuff I just wish they end my suffering when 4th comes out and do something like this lol. Yeah, I feel for the mixed races Cities of Sigmar players, with the potential of dwarves leaving for ToW it would be good to get clarity on what GeeDubs intend to do. With this larger edition change it would be an easy time to move across some warscrolls to more thematic armies potentially. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang back me up Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 What if I told you that Endless Spells… are free? Or that all weapons choices have been rolled into one across warscrolls? 16 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, Whitefang back me up said: What if I told you that Endless Spells… are free? Or that all weapons choices have been rolled into one across warscrolls? If they are free I will order 100 boxes of each. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScionOfOssia Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, Whitefang back me up said: What if I told you that Endless Spells… are free? Or that all weapons choices have been rolled into one across warscrolls? You mean to tell me that I can finally annoy my opponent by unleashing literally every Endless Spell in my collection onto an opponent not nearly ready for my bs? If you’re right, this will be unbelievably funny. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdance93 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 This kinda tracks with the whole knowing whole spell lore leak. they would have to do an insane job balancing them. I’m not sure how they are going to implement this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Ragest said: Delves are in danger aswell, like older human minis like the tanks, the chicken or the flagellants. Same with spiders in Gloomspite or Bonesplitterz, maybe graveguard and such and the skink range. To be honest, I think everything pre endtimes can leave AoS at some point. But that reaoning hold no water Since A. They're not doing Delves or Lizardmen any time in the future. So saying eventually is i guess so broad that it correct but i wouldn't hold your breath on it some point most likely 10 uears from now B. Most what you listed already have updated models in specialists games with no change whatsoever C. They don't want that many cross over (WoC is kind of any exemption) so they're not going to sell Saurus warrior Aos and Saurus warrior ToW. So saying be gone is not really true. Updated maybe sure but not gone and that can be said about a bunch of models Witch elves, spiderfang, Bonesplitterz, Butchers, ect ect especially since most of what your listing isn't in Core faction arcane journal let alone in the core faactions D. If Delves are to be gone it because most likely rolling out a new dark elf aos faction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someravella Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Whitefang back me up said: What if I told you that Endless Spells… are free? Or that all weapons choices have been rolled into one across warscrolls? Ok. Tomorrow I'll buy a box of multicomponent gutrippaz and will arm them wit hakkas. That's the signal I needed. Edited March 27 by Someravella 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 23 minutes ago, Whitefang back me up said: What if I told you that Endless Spells… are free? Or that all weapons choices have been rolled into one across warscrolls? What if I tell you that I love you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captaniser Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Sounds difficult to balance. perhaps they changed the rules to something along the lines of each player only being allowed one Endless spell per game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabush Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 25 minutes ago, Whitefang back me up said: Or that all weapons choices have been rolled into one across warscrolls? This is very interesting! What about different warscrolls that are basically the same but with different weapons? Like liberators/vindictors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, Captaniser said: Sounds difficult to balance. perhaps they changed the rules to something along the lines of each player only being allowed one Endless spell per game. I think you need to pick the "endless lore" to use them and reject your faction lore, so I suspect that nobody will do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodorowski Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 32 minutes ago, Whitefang back me up said: Or that all weapons choices have been rolled into one across warscrolls? Mmmm I'm not sure I understand this second part... Does it mean that a unit will have a single combat attribute independently if they are equiped with swords or lances? Like the current SBGL skeletons? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scáthborn Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 31 minutes ago, Whitefang back me up said: Or that all weapons choices have been rolled into one across warscrolls? I wonder how it'll handle those warscrolls that have weapon & shield combo or dual weapons, like Witch Aelves or Kruleboyz Boss. (Not sure on any other examples off the top of my head.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 minute ago, Frodorowski said: Mmmm I'm not sure I understand this second part... Does it mean that a unit will have a single combat attribute independently if they are equiped with swords or lances? Like the current SBGL skeletons? Yes, like Cryptguard, all weapons with the same statline. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleser Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 How about Kurnoth hunters 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, Aleser said: How about Kurnoth hunters 🤔 This. Or Brutes. I think they would get a different warscroll for each option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxicious Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Just chiming in to say that I am not a fan of the idea of souping the Daughters with all the CoS Delves simply for the reason that they are Delves. I feel like if something like this was intended, the opportunity to implement this would have been the "liberation" of Anvilgard imo. Of course this doesn't mean it wouldn't happen now if GW wanted to do it. That being said I also don't like the idea of a combined tome of Morathi and Malerion elves. It will probably happen to reduce the number of elven factions, but I still don't like it 🤣 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Whitefang back me up said: Or that all weapons choices have been rolled into one across warscrolls? Are you saying that my Grundstock Thunderers are not going to have special weaponry? 1 profile instead of 5? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 With all the speculation regarding BoC, CoS Duardin, Dark Elves etc I think it is important to occasionally place integration, thematics, personal desires, "what has gone before" and "what I think fits" with cold, hard, pragmatic business sense. Plastic kits come from Moulds. These Moulds have shelf lives. After a certain number of runs, the mould needs to be recut. It may be the case that CoS Duardin kits have been kept around for so long because they were selling at a decent rate consistently and have had their moulds recut at least once during their lifetime. Meaning, many more thousands of prints left in them. Why not keep them around if they are selling ok and the moulds are still good? If/When they are replaced and moved over to ToW (Which is basically over the next handful of months with the Dwarves previewed for ToW and AoS 4 on the way) I really hope we them replaced with a proper new CoS Duardin kit or not just removed completely. A similar thing can be said for the DE kits. They have kept selling at a rate deemed high enough to keep them around. They may be at or near the end of their mould lives. Would it be worth it to invest in new tooling for these kits? With a potential Malerion faction on the way, to have a full DE faction in the ToW (which in many ways directly competes with a potential Malerion faction in AoS) could require a significant investment in recutting moulds etc (for kits that have been available for the last 10 years and they might not have great sales data) This is all complete speculation of course, but there are a million reasons why it would make perfect sense to "squat" BoC or Duardin, or Elves.... (Or any other faction!) This is the company that literally blew up the ToW. The idea that "Removing a faction from AoS that has some ancient plastic kits and has had a Battletome" is a pretty shaky position. I do hope that GW uses the launch of AoS4 to communicate not just the immediate release schedule but an over-arching roadmap to give people some idea of the general direction of the design studio. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scáthborn Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 7 minutes ago, foxicious said: Just chiming in to say that I am not a fan of the idea of souping the Daughters with all the CoS Delves simply for the reason that they are Delves. I feel like if something like this was intended, the opportunity to implement this would have been the "liberation" of Anvilgard imo. Of course this doesn't mean it wouldn't happen now if GW wanted to do it. That being said I also don't like the idea of a combined tome of Morathi and Malerion elves. It will probably happen to reduce the number of elven factions, but I still don't like it 🤣 Yeah, I can understand this. I don't think all of the Delf stuff would fit, but definitely the Executioners (Might just be I'm a sucker for them.) I think there is space for them with Har Kuron and now Krethusa's rebellion/recruitment. In lieu of waiting for a range expansion 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 47 minutes ago, Ragest said: What if I tell you that I love you. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Whitefang back me up said: What if I told you that Endless Spells… are free? Or that all weapons choices have been rolled into one across warscrolls? Rejoice. We can build models however we think looks cool without worrying about stats. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grungnisson Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, Beliman said: Are you saying that my Grundstock Thunderers are not going to have special weaponry? 1 profile instead of 5? Because what we should have had from day one, was one special weapon, per unit. For all of them, Thunderers, Company, and the balloon bois. Make them punchier, but limit. But that's a different story now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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