JerekKruger Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 13 hours ago, Sahrial said: The following info is unverified and relayed to me in text form Spiterider lancers - 225 for 3 3 wounds Save 4+ Bravery 6 16” move Lance/2/3+/3+/-1/2 - extra rend and damage on charge Fangs and claws/2/3+/3+/-1/d3 Poison sting/1/2+/2+/-1/d6, d6MW on hit of 6 180 for alternative build, fight worse, but resurrect d3 models or heal d6 wounds They seem very swingy. The lances have pretty good profiles on the charge, but only 7 attacks (assuming the champion gets +1). The fangs are less good, though certainly not bad by any stretch, but the sting is really swingy. I feel like that's not great from an NPE point of view, for both the player (when they do very little damage) and their opponent (when they do lots). If prefer the fangs and sting to be combined into a single profile doing either 1 or D3 Mortals on 6s instead: more reliable but less swingy, and less separate dice rolls for different attacks. That said, if that is how they end up being i won't be upset 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damascus Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 22 hours ago, HollowHills said: Skaven I don't really know or care much, but die hard players should be happy. Looking at the warscrolls from Echoes of Doom, the fact that Skaven only got one new hero sculpt and there is no leaks about their rules makes me seriously doubt that Skaven players will be happy. I really hope that I'm wrong. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 The Bug riders are generally better than the dmg eels. The (swingy) but very potent sting is a little too much imo (the Mortal Wounds part). I am interested in their points cost. They should be around 200+ to reflect their power on the field imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Snarff said: Fyreslayers too (unless you count Gotrek who doesn't even have a warscroll in the FS book). Yeah I was in two minds to count them cause of Gotrek but without him they definately need more Heroes regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleser Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 50 minutes ago, JackStreicher said: The Bug riders are generally better than the dmg eels. The (swingy) but very potent sting is a little too much imo (the Mortal Wounds part). I am interested in their points cost. They should be around 200+ to reflect their power on the field imo. They are 225 for 3. Maybe you missed it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japaricio Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 It is a less impactful rumour when they already say that is votann and no KO (well, at least we will convert him into KO :D) https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/31/the-rumour-engine-31st-may-2022/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, japaricio said: It is a less impactful rumour when they already say that is votann and no KO (well, at least we will convert him into KO :D) https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/31/the-rumour-engine-31st-may-2022/ Nice LEGO hammer. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 31 minutes ago, japaricio said: It is a less impactful rumour when they already say that is votann and no KO (well, at least we will convert him into KO :D) https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/31/the-rumour-engine-31st-may-2022/ Yeah heavy hints make the Engines less fun. Really cant wait till things turn back to an AOS focus!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleser Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 I just opened my Echoes of Doom box and this is first time I see skaven models in person and they really dont look that bad, not sure if they really need update. New units and models are welcome for any faction and they really had to give them something before Sylvaneths but those units in box really dont need update before some of the worse looking stuff. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixieproxy Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Aleser said: I just opened my Echoes of Doom box and this is first time I see skaven models in person and they really dont look that bad, not sure if they really need update. New units and models are welcome for any faction and they really had to give them something before Sylvaneths but those units in box really dont need update before some of the worse looking stuff. The models in the skaven line most people complain about aren't those ones to be fair. They're the resin/metal stuff that permeates the line, along with models like Gutter Runners 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, Aleser said: I just opened my Echoes of Doom box and this is first time I see skaven models in person and they really dont look that bad, not sure if they really need update. New units and models are welcome for any faction and they really had to give them something before Sylvaneths but those units in box really dont need update before some of the worse looking stuff. The models in EoD are some of the newer ones in the range. The Screaming Bell/Plague Furnace is pretty much fine by modern AoS standards, and the Clanrats and Stormvermin are perfectly good sculpts (in particular they don't suffer from giant hands syndrome that plagues much of the Skaven range) but lack some of the dynamism of modern AoS sculpts due to having been made to rank up for WFB. But look at things like the Night Runners (giant hands and poor detail) or Skype Acolytes (truly ancient metal sculpts) and you'll start to get an idea about why Skaven players weren't happy with their single extra miniature (particularly given the old Death Master was one of the less old old models in the range). 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleser Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, pixieproxy said: The models in the skaven line most people complain about aren't those ones to be fair. They're the resin/metal stuff that permeates the line, along with models like Gutter Runners Fair, I thought skaven fans expect full update of range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Aleser said: Fair, I thought skaven fans expect full update of range We just wanted to modernise the miniatures that were first made when half of the people here weren't even born Edited May 31, 2022 by Garrac 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinketts Mawtribes Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 If Sons get another battletome so soon after their first one, and after the WD that gave them the perfect battalion, we Ogor players need to revolt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahrial Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 49 minutes ago, Plinketts Mawtribes said: If Sons get another battletome so soon after their first one, and after the WD that gave them the perfect battalion, we Ogor players need to revolt. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Plinketts Mawtribes said: If Sons get another battletome so soon after their first one, and after the WD that gave them the perfect battalion, we Ogor players need to revolt. As both an Ogor and Sons fan, I do wish Mawtribes got their Tome first, however were it not for Covid the Sons Tome wouldve only been 6 months after Mawtribes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ÞórarinnSig Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Garrac said: We just wanted to modernise the miniatures that were first made when half of the people here weren't even born My youngest brother just had his first child. I have skaven models older then my brother. So at this point older then 2 generations 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Not including the Previews, AOS has had 12 articles in 31 days. An entire month. I cant wait for Horus Heresy to release so this heresy can be extinguished!!* *Much love to all HH fans youve waited such a long time for this. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowHills Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Skaven is a big ctrl + c / ctrl + v. That said I do think overall they will be fine. It's not an army I know much about ever since plague monk spam went away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 5 hours ago, japaricio said: It is a less impactful rumour when they already say that is votann and no KO (well, at least we will convert him into KO :D) I think they've pivoted to the Rumour Engine itself being a Votann, not that it means the RE is Votann/40k specific. Remember when the last one got "broken" from Chaos? It used to be an Eldar device. Quote The Rumour Engine – 26th April 2022 On Friday we learned something incredible about the Leagues of Votann and their Ancestor Cores. These venerable cogitators bear a startling resemblance to the Rumour Engine kept locked in Warhammer World’s labyrinthine lower oubliette – right down to the strange bearded faces carved into the sides. Could it be that we’ve been using an amazing relic of technology from a more enlightened age solely to take confusing close-up photos of models slated for release in three to 12 months this entire time? What priceless knowledge could truly be contained within? What secrets great and terrible percolate within the quantum datastacks of its inscrutable mind? …Let’s ask it for another picture. Though with this older RE they're now saying the Engine was a Votann all along. So the rumours aren't guaranteed to be LoV, even if this hammer is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmani Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Wait. So the weapon teams & rat ogres from that isle of blood (or something) set aren't the standard nowadays? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, Rachmani said: Wait. So the weapon teams & rat ogres from that isle of blood (or something) set aren't the standard nowadays? For some weird reason, nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaWn Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Iksdee said: For some weird reason, nope. They are on the same sprues as the IoB High Elves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmani Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Man, I never new... I have a bunch of those at my parents, sleeping soundly in the attic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahlambra Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, HollowHills said: Skaven is a big ctrl + c / ctrl + v. That said I do think overall they will be fine. It's not an army I know much about ever since plague monk spam went away. Any word on if they removed or changed the mono-clan battleline rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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