Arkiham Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, heywoah_twitch said: When we first saw a faq/warscroll change we discarded the books as useless. Funny as the app is worse than the books now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoah_twitch Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch of Izalith Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 minute ago, FRoper said: all changes are good. especially like the change to couldrons. I may have a chance of beating our daughter of khaine player now. I am a DoK player and I'm glad they changed it too. Its a really dull playstyle and boring for both people to stand there while you roll dice for 5 minutes straight. I never took more than 2 and even that felt a bit cheesey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, heywoah_twitch said: How so? As the app often doesn't update stuff, doesnt allow certain battalions to work and is genrrally a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoah_twitch Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Arkiham said: As the app often doesn't update stuff, doesnt allow certain battalions to work and is genrrally a mess The books update stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, heywoah_twitch said: The books update stuff? When a new book comes out, it has the latest rules. My app still won't give me the rules to the new beasts or new guo.. My app still won't let me use everchosen battalions legally, my book will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richelieu Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I have had great experiences with the app. Easier to add all my lists' warscrolls to a battle and have them at hand than it is to flip back and forth through glossy pages of a large book. I also think it is easier to track what an opponent is doing with the app. While they're rolling you can just search for the unit they're using and follow along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamopower Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Lately I have had very often difficulties on loading stuff from the app. Don't know if it's my phone or a server issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siorra Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 55 minutes ago, Twitch of Izalith said: I am a DoK player and I'm glad they changed it too. Its a really dull playstyle and boring for both people to stand there while you roll dice for 5 minutes straight. I never took more than 2 and even that felt a bit cheesey... I faced a DoK player at Heat 1, and he only used 1 cauldron because he believed that it shouldn't stack and it was a funny written rule. Players like that are such a positive experience for newish players like me. Also I'm hoping now with these Stormcast Battalion nerfs/fixes they'll readress the points cost of battallions again in GH 2018. As a Hammerstrike player I keep feeling less and less reason to keep playing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Wow GW did really good job with those FAQs. I love it that they clarified a lot of things and nerfed some mechanics that were bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal4m4nd3r Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 3 hours ago, AdamR said: Vanguard Wing one isn't as bad as I had feared, Removes Staunch when they charge, and there's always the chance of double ones, but I'd say the battalion is still pretty powerful. can you explain this a bit better? what was broken and how is it adjusted currently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal4m4nd3r Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 edit: double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnstar Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, sal4m4nd3r said: can you explain this a bit better? what was broken and how is it adjusted currently? Staunch Defender provides units with +1 save provided that they don't charge. Vanguard wing was able to deploy a large unit of Liberators directly into combat (i.e, within 1") With the change, they actually need to charge into combat, thus losing the +1 save, and the 3" requirement means that you can't "snake" the unit though gaps in screens to reach characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarmofseals Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 While I have no idea if these changes will be enough, I really like the general approach that GW took to these changes. Basically in all cases they adjusted abilities in a way that retained their usefulness while limiting them in subtle but important ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnstar Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I really wish GW would have flat out ruled that same-name-abilities don't stack by now instead of dealing with them on a case-by-case basis. Sadly the Mystic Shield Q has pretty much killed that hope for me at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I really wish GW would have one final look at Blades of Khorne Keywords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, Killax said: I really wish GW would have one final look at Blades of Khorne Keywords Probably GW thinks this way: Drones are mounts and big part of the model, where fleshhound is only a familiar. Killing mounts would kill the rider, but killing familiar does nothing to owner, so abilities targeting Daemons shouldn't work on Korghos Khul. That's why he lacks the keyword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xasz Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Just now, michu said: Probably GW thinks this way: Drones are mounts and big part of the model, where fleshhound is only a familiar. Killing mounts would kill the rider, but killing familiar does nothing to owner, so abilities targeting Daemons shouldn't work on Korghos Khul. Skullcrushers? Or Valkia? Who is an actual demon princess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Just now, Xasz said: Skullcrushers? Or Valkia? Who is an actual demon princess.. Ok, that's a good point. Then it's really lack of consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 15 minutes ago, michu said: Probably GW thinks this way: Drones are mounts and big part of the model, where fleshhound is only a familiar. Killing mounts would kill the rider, but killing familiar does nothing to owner, so abilities targeting Daemons shouldn't work on Korghos Khul. That's why he lacks the keyword. Well the Juggernaut is larger as the Lord he's carrying. He and the Skullcrushers also DO NOT have the Daemon Keyword. The narrative even has Khorgos Khul leading an army of Khorne Bloodbound and Daemons now: Quote As the bloody Realmgate Wars ground on, Khul continued to track his quarry. At the Flameworlds of Aqshy he almost fell upon them, yet at the last moment he was betrayed by his supposed ally, the Daemon Prince Lord Skinskein of the Orb Infernia, who abandoned the Goretide in the midst of battle and allowed the Stormcasts to escape. Khul’s wrath was absolute – he slew his betrayer and claimed dominance over his daemonic legions. With the Goretide’s power now greater than ever, Khul stands ready to embrace his destiny and drown the realms in blood. Source: Blades of Khorne Oh yeah and then there are the rest of the Warscrolls who logically have Daemon Keyword on their Warscrolls for Daemon related models : https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-fatemaster-en.pdfhttps://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-tzaangor-shaman-en.pdfhttps://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-tzaangor-enlightened-en.pdfhttps://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-tzaangor-skyfires-en.pdfhttps://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Downloads//ENG-Lord-of-afflictions.pdfhttps://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Downloads//ENG-Pusgoyle-blightlords.pdfhttps://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Downloads//ENG-Harbinger-of-decay.pdfhttps://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-chaos-lord-daemonicmount-en.pdfhttps://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-lord-of-slaanesh-en.pdfhttps://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-hellstriders-en.pdf But sure, yeah, Seraphon are logically way more Daemonic than a Fleshhound is when he's on the same base as a Mortal. Clearly the Keyword Deamon can be ditched if they share a base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Yes, it's really weird. Maybe there is some reason, but i dont' see it. Especially in Valkia's case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRoper Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 there are many incosistanceies, this is one of the major ones that still needs fixing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURF1 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 lol order got hammered. all of it makes sense but they got hammered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 36 minutes ago, BURF1 said: lol order got hammered. all of it makes sense but they got hammered. That Herald Broski seems ready to wreck havoc on new meta's with Bolt Throwers and the likes though So you could say the meta will get a new hammer soon too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokek Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 8 hours ago, AdamR said: Vanguard Wing one isn't as bad as I had feared, Removes Staunch when they charge, and there's always the chance of double ones, but I'd say the battalion is still pretty powerful. They can't conga right through other units any more so you can screen against them. I really think that fixes the "WTF?!" feeling they had. Still good just perhaps no longer tournament-winning good as skilled players will be able to defend against it much better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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