Joseph Mackay Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, ballstowall said: I'm thinking about picking up DoK, however, I keep hearing people say they're op. Is there a way that I can make a toned down army list? I'm thinking about getting the battleforce box. In addition, I want to bring in dark elf allies for a more fluffy list, but won't have the money to do that until down the road. instead of going heavy on Witch Elves, you could try the Medusai units, theyre still powerful but arent op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, ballstowall said: I'm thinking about picking up DoK, however, I keep hearing people say they're op. Is there a way that I can make a toned down army list? I'm thinking about getting the battleforce box. In addition, I want to bring in dark elf allies for a more fluffy list, but won't have the money to do that until down the road. Don’t play Hagg-Nar and you’re good basically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelt Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 no one?? please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballstowall Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 What about the witch elf variant, the sisters of slaughter iirc. Are they as over the top or are they a little more toned down? Also, if I got the battleforce box, what would be the best way of not min. maxing the units? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InSaint Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 3:58 AM, gelt said: Hello everyone. Meanwhile, I apologize for how I write, English is not my language.I look for tips for a 1000 pt of daugheter list to take to a tournament.In this tournament we will be 10 players, scenarios will be:escalation core book, starstrike gh, total commitment gb. i have christhmas battleforce new to paste plus 2 hag queen, slaugheter queen, 50 old witch aelves, Hag Queen on Cauldron of Blood and 10 Doomfire Warlocks. thanks for every comment. i really need help. You can try this, pretty solid for a 1000pts with plenty of units with mobility to hold and secure objectives. Bloodwrack Shrine - Steed of Shadows - Gryph Feather Charm Hag Queen - Catechism of Murder Hag Queen - Blessing of Khaine Slaughter Queen - General - Sacrament of Blood 20 Witches w shields 10 Witches w dual daggers 10 Witches w dual daggers 5 Khinerai Heartrender 5 Khinerai Heartrender 78 wounds, 2 dispels, 9 units Just beware of turn 1a charge that can cause your 20 Witches to run w/o any spare CP to prevent battle-shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InSaint Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, ballstowall said: What about the witch elf variant, the sisters of slaughter iirc. Are they as over the top or are they a little more toned down? Also, if I got the battleforce box, what would be the best way of not min. maxing the units? Please see start of thread -> http://www.tga.community/forums/topic/18324-daughters-of-khaine-witches-and-sisters/ SoS have their niche, their 6" pile-in makes opponents think twice before charging or piling in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Blade Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Just bought into DoK with two Battleforce boxes. Really excited to get building. My plan is to expand into a Temple nest battalion. What are players fears when it comes to GHB 2019 for us? I'm worried we are going to get nerfed into the ground. I didnt pick them up to kill hobby but I would still like to have one of the stronger armies for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Black Blade said: Just bought into DoK with two Battleforce boxes. Really excited to get building. My plan is to expand into a Temple nest battalion. What are players fears when it comes to GHB 2019 for us? I'm worried we are going to get nerfed into the ground. I didnt pick them up to kill hobby but I would still like to have one of the stronger armies for a change. My hunch is that units that buff other units will go up in points, and we may see an adjustment to hag nar allegiance. Something as simple as wholly within would reign them in a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelt Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 hours ago, InSaint said: Puoi provare questo, piuttosto solido per 1000 punti con un sacco di unità con mobilità per mantenere e obiettivi sicuri. Bloodwrack Shrine - Steed of Shadows - Gryph Feather Charm Hag Queen - Catechism of Murder Hag Queen - Benedizione di Khaine Slaughter Queen - General - Sacrament of Blood 20 streghe w scudi 10 streghe con doppi pugnali 10 streghe con doppi pugnali 5 Khinerai Heartrender 5 Khinerai Heartrender 78 ferite, 2 dissipazioni, 9 unità Fai attenzione alla carica del turno 1a che può far correre le tue 20 streghe senza alcun CP di riserva per prevenire lo shock da battaglia. thanks for the comment. Currently I tried this list twice and it worked well. Allegiance: Daughters of KhaineLeadersBloodwrack Medusa (140)- Lore of Shadows: MindrazorHag Queen (60)- Prayer: Sacrament of BloodSlaughter Queen on Cauldron of Blood (330)- General- Trait: Devoted Desciples - Artefact: Iron Circlet - Prayer: Blessing of KhaineBattleline30 x Witch Aelves (270)- Pairs of Sacrificial Knives10 x Witch Aelves (100)- Pairs of Sacrificial KnivesUnits5 x Khinerai Lifetakers (80) But I have not had the chance to confront his weakness, that is to control the objectives, because I have always won at the second round by sweeping away the opposing army (slaanesh and skaven). Tomorrow I have two games with the beasts of chaos that have many units and they evoke many others and I will try yours list in one game. If others person want to give their contribution, I willingly listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 First unit from the Christmas battle force completed. Upwards and onwards! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou_Cypher Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Question about Sisters of Slaughter. Can you have them wait outside 3" of an enemy without charging. Then charge a different unit with something like Witch Aelves, choosing to activate them first. The Sisters of Slaughter would be safe from retaliation because the enemy is outside 3" pile-in. But when you can activate next, you pile-in the Sisters 6" forward and attack the enemy that couldn't attack you. Possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lou_Cypher said: Question about Sisters of Slaughter. Can you have them wait outside 3" of an enemy without charging. Then charge a different unit with something like Witch Aelves, choosing to activate them first. The Sisters of Slaughter would be safe from retaliation because the enemy is outside 3" pile-in. But when you can activate next, you pile-in the Sisters 6" forward and attack the enemy that couldn't attack you. Possible? Yes, due to the wording on their warscroll. Note that some units in the game can pile in 6”, but can’t activate outside of 3”. SoS are a bit unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Ok so I finished 3rd in little tournament,won two games against SCE Sequitors list and Legion of Azeroth (maxed out scores) and Lost nailbitter against SCE Sequitors and Evocators list when I almost recovered from horrible,horrible deployment mistake. It was also first test for my new build I am planning to bring to GT Heat 1 in March Morathi Slaughter Queen with Iron Circlet 2x Hag Queen Bloodwrack Medusa 30 Witches with pairs of knives 30 Witches with bucklers 10 Witches 2x5 Lifetakers Cauldron Guard 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispersofblood Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Hag Narr? @DantePQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 @whispersofblood yep it's HaggNarr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InSaint Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/21/2019 at 6:17 AM, DantePQ said: Ok so I finished 3rd in little tournament,won two games against SCE Sequitors list and Legion of Azeroth (maxed out scores) and Lost nailbitter against SCE Sequitors and Evocators list when I almost recovered from horrible,horrible deployment mistake. Did evocators alpha strike took out your Cauldron or Hag Queen on the first turn? I usually use 30 Witches to bubble wrap my entire army and the last 10 for an added layer to protect my Cauldron and Heros. Those guys are painful but if you can survive the initial onslaught, you can wipe them out the following turn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 8 hours ago, InSaint said: Did evocators alpha strike took out your Cauldron or Hag Queen on the first turn? I usually use 30 Witches to bubble wrap my entire army and the last 10 for an added layer to protect my Cauldron and Heros. Those guys are painful but if you can survive the initial onslaught, you can wipe them out the following turn. Yep, exactly that, I made bad mistake no to screen with Lifetakers, and I lost Slaughter Queen on Cauldron which was bad but then I got couple of chances to win the scenario but I couldn't kill Lord Castellant for like 3 turns of combat with Medusa and Lifetakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleater Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Would a War Hydra or Kharybdiss be a decent addition to a DoK army? Not looking to be super competitive but do want something that can pull it's weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucentia Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Kharybdiss kinda sucks unfortunately, the warscroll doesn't have much going for it. The Hydra can be used as a moderately tanky roadblock monster, though it's no stardrake or anything, but you could potentially use it as an anvil unit in some circumstances. I've never felt a particular need to use one with DoK once they got their own battletome, but if I was going to mess around with either option it would certainly be the hydra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleater Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Okay. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleater Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Okay. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeryenn Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I own 1 box of Blood Coven: https://www.ebay.pl/itm/392222890150?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 Box is unopened, brand new. Can send it outside of Europe but firstly need to check shipping costs. Want to ask anything? Please write. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou_Cypher Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Minor question but.... what's the main use of the Slaughter Troupe? It allows units to retreat and still charge, sure. But Sisters of Slaughter can just retreat + run outside 3", and then pile-in 6" anyway. And for the price of the battalion, you can get a few extra things instead. Is it for less drops? Utility for the Heartrenders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Lou_Cypher said: Minor question but.... what's the main use of the Slaughter Troupe? It allows units to retreat and still charge, sure. But Sisters of Slaughter can just retreat + run outside 3", and then pile-in 6" anyway. And for the price of the battalion, you can get a few extra things instead. Is it for less drops? Utility for the Heartrenders? The idea to flee and use their abilities to get back into combat never crossed my mind, but seems intriguing for a number of reasons. In any case, the benefits besides the obvious of fewer drops and an artefact and command point, is that it allows you to get some amazing distances out of those units that would otherwise be impossible. I imagine that would be very useful and catch people off guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Lou_Cypher said: Minor question but.... what's the main use of the Slaughter Troupe? It allows units to retreat and still charge, sure. But Sisters of Slaughter can just retreat + run outside 3", and then pile-in 6" anyway. And for the price of the battalion, you can get a few extra things instead. Is it for less drops? Utility for the Heartrenders? Can I also add to @Mark Williams‘s comment that the extra charge move is also an extra average of 7 inches +movement. That extra mobility as a Skaven player (banners allow the same) has allowed me great extra movement shenanigans around blocking units but also more range to position myself the best way for the coming combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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