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  1. InSaint

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    You might want to try this instead, it is more optimal. Hag Queen on Cauldron of Blood Hag Queen 10 Witch Aelves 10 Witch Aelves 10 Blood Sisters 5 Khinerai Heartrenders 5 Khinerai Heartrenders
  2. InSaint

    Tyrion, in light reborn!

    You mean like this kind of geometric angel? lol
  3. You can organise a narrative campaign. Suddenly it is not about winning or losing but progressing the plot. Think Dungeons and Dragons style. As Game Master, you get to "balance" the game and give your competitive friends an amazing time playing their most broken strategies against near impossible odds. Award them with shiny artifacts to make uber champions and end off with a finale against Nagash or something.
  4. InSaint

    So what about DoK and Legions?

    No one has yet to mention how undercosted Khinerai Heartrenders are. I play them regularly and realised the strategic value they bring to the table is wayyyy above 80pts. Reliable shooting, insane mobility with deepstrike. Puts pressure on the opponent and baits them into making poor decisions. It is not difficult getting back the value on 80pts. Just pop them on turn 2/3 behind enemy lines and watch your opponent panic. Sandwiched between 30 Witches and 10-20 Khinerais is a rather scary situation. They won me so many games.
  5. InSaint

    Tyrion, in light reborn!

    Sorry but actually I think Tyrion might be themed as the Fairy King. I can imagine GWS releasing an entire series of light aelves with butterfly wings wielding light magic. And they will intentionally misspell it as FAYRIE or something to get it copyrighted. I am also putting my bet on a new Unicorn Calvary unit because friendship is magic.
  6. InSaint

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    Never play attrition against LoN, you will lose. Hit hard, score the objectives and move away if you are in danger. Pace yourself to end the game on turn 3 or 4 within the allocated time-frame. Continuously threaten to try to snipe off his hero with Khinerais, Death is extremely hero-centric and this will force him to devote resources to bodyguard the heros. Prioritize rending attacks against units that do not ignore rend. Unfortunately DoK and LoN are on the same Tier so games are evenly matched so simple mistakes can easily cost you the game. You can't afford to rely on your fraction's ability to get away with mistakes. You need to remain persistent and meticulous with your game and wait for a mistake by your opponent to secure a victory.
  7. InSaint

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    There is an official tutorial at the Warhammer Community website. I suggest painting in batches of 10 and alternating between other models to avoid insanity.
  8. InSaint

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    I personally think one more Battleforce is a great addition. This will give you; 1 more cauldron kit to turn into a Bloodwrack Shrine which is an amazing spell-caster with plenty of mortal wounding capability 2 more 5x Khinerai Heartrenders. 4x5 of them will provide fantastic board control, objective grabber and possible lone character assassination 5 more Melusai to form a squad of 10 which is a great size to deal enough damage and remain relevant from casualties 10 more Witches, self-explanatory And if you want to be ultra competitive, Witch Aelves are universally powerful and equally comparable to Melusai in terms of offensive capabilities unless facing high saves target (2/3+ re-rolls 1) due to the sheer amount of attacks with re-rolls hit and wounds. Currently, the most powerful temple is Hag Narr with the 5+ FNP. Combined with Blessing of Khaine prayer, your opponent will be facing 100+ wounds at 4+/5++ re-rolls if played correctly. DoK is a higher Tier army than SCE Sacrosanct. 20 Evocators with Gavriel alpha-strike will almost nearly wipe out 30 Witch Aelves but the point cost does not equate out. Just remember to wrap up your cauldron with Witches for 3" buffer to prevent him from harming your general.
  9. InSaint

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    Just curious, how did he managed to Alpha Strike your Cauldron? Did you deliberately bait him with an opening or there was a way he managed to bypass bubble wrap of Witches/SoS. I face a fair amount of Gavriel + Evocators in my local scene and have to consistently wrap up my Cauldron. It is quite painful and time-consuming to always measure 3" away from the Cauldron and line up a row of Witches around it wherever the Cauldron moves. 😭
  10. InSaint

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    In terms of wound count and melee save, both are on par. Honestly, a +5 versus 6+ save against shooting is an overstatement of being a bit tougher. 🤣 But Doomfires are fun to play with especially when you roll a 6 on the Doomfire D6 mortal wound!
  11. InSaint

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    You need to also evaluate how Doomfire Warlocks compare to other DoK unit in similar reconnaissance roles. 5 DW is the same point cost as 2 squads of 5 Khinerai Heartrenders. 5 Khinerai Heartrenders at 80 points can; Consistently do approximately 1-2 wounds from shooting Can deepstrike board-wide Can give you slight deployment advantage by delaying your foot troops deployment Has a precious -2 rending on drop and subsequent -1 rend (-2 can be reset with Khailebron) Fly over and shoot into woods (Slyvaneth watch out!) Move and run and shoot (wtf like as if their movement suck to begin with) Move again after shooting (omg wtf, now you see me, now you don't) Block enemy movement with their huge ass base size Bait enemy hard hitting units off course (gosh I have seen 300 points detouring just to clear off 80 points) Capture and contest objectives Deal some mortal wounds against units that output high volumes of attack Every opponent I played with consistently think they are 2 wounds due to the large base size and ignore them They are actually borderline broken. I run 2x5 and my opponents are having a hard time dealing with them. Well yea they are not wizards but if I needed Wizards for objective, I will run with a Bloodwrack Shrine or Morathi.
  12. InSaint

    Armies without Summons?

    Following the Warhammer 40k trend, I am fairly certain there will be fraction with a Command Ability that will immediately negate the activation of the opponent's Command Ability. This is definitely going to wreck havoc for any summoning armies. The problem with LoN is not summoning back an entire blob but the constant regeneration of like 5xD3 models every turn from nearby graveyards and hero's ability.
  13. InSaint

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    Strategy aside, can anyone share your experiences or tips on getting through the paint job for 70 Witches/SoS while maintaining sanity? 😂 Unlike Nighthaunts where you can easily airbush the cloak, I need to spend considerable effort painting the skin, fabric and armor. GWS provided a great tutorial but repeating this is wearing me down. Usually painting is therapeutic but this has become torture.
  14. InSaint

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    Because there isn't a choice in the DoK battletome. She is the only cheapest DoK wizard that can carry Shadow Stone? This is in contrast to the the Bloodwrack Shrine which is an insanely cost efficient upgrade. For 80 more pts, you get extra 6W, more attacks and 2 D3 mortal wound abilities. The 2" reduction movement can be easily corrected with Steeds of Shadow. At 220pts, you have a 16" flying 12 W shrine that can comfortably position itself to decimate an entire blob and proceed to vomit D3 mortal wounds Mindrazor is unfortunately near worthless in the current LON NH spam meta. If I read the battletome correctly, Slaughter Troupe forces you to field at least 2 SoS units and up to 2 additional Witches units.
  15. InSaint

    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

    For those building competitive lists, here are the DoK unit Tiers taking into consideration how point efficient they are and possible synergies. Unit Tiers Tier 1 - Hag Queen on foot, Slaughter Queen on Cauldron of Blood, Witch Aelves, Khinerai Heartrenders, Blood Sisters Tier 2 - Morathi, Slaughter Queen on foot, Bloodwrack Shrine, Hag Queen on Cauldron of Blood, Doomfire Warlocks Tier 3 - Bloodwrack Medusa, Blood Stalkers, Khinerai Lifetakers, Avatar of Khaine on foot Temple Tiers Tier 1 - Hag Narr Tier 2 - Khailebron and Draichi Ganeth Tier 3 - Kraith All the DoK Battalions are unfortunately ****** forcing you to field sub-par units. If you just want to have fun, enjoy a great time with friends and not be the ******. Just play whatever you like. 😁