Acid_Nine Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, baiardo said: On paper the shark looks good to me, what would it need? From personal Experience at least the leviadon from the akhelian corps to give at least 1 re-roll, but if you can have the Akhelian King follow them around telling them to hit better then that’s the best support you can give IMO. If you can afford it then the Eidolon of the storm is great for re-rolling wounds, but usually you cannot afford one in a list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazhoath Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Do you think that the Broken Realms Books will give us new rules for the Idoneth? Or will the rules only for narrative plays? I hope so bad for new artefacts for matched plays😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baiardo Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 15 hours ago, Drazhoath said: Do you think that the Broken Realms Books will give us new rules for the Idoneth? when it will be released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazhoath Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 20 hours ago, baiardo said: when it will be released? I hope in November? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baiardo Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Drazhoath said: I hope in November? Thank you, there's some IDK release confirmed or only rumors? Edited September 17, 2020 by baiardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixieproxy Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, baiardo said: Thank you, there's some IDK release confirmed or only rumors? I think the main rumours are from the key art we were shown being DoK vs IDK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocKeule Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 And the hint that all (a)elven races will be in the focus of these upcoming book. But nothing with meat on it so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronos Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Hey, I'm considering starting a IDK force soon in order to do something different than my Tzeentch, and they drew my eye based on a few things: I like the speed and ability to pick fights, can start some units in reserve, many of the models have grown on me, and I can have a functional army without hordes to paint and the eels look like they will be great for airbrushing. Although this might be not a great time to start them with the rumours of changes coming, I doubt they would be nerfed into oblivion, and with already p;aying Tzeentch I really don't want to start another top meta army like Seraphon or Lumineth. Anyway, here's what I was thinking for 1000 points, mainly eels: Akhelian King 6x Morrsarr Guard 3x Morrsarr Guard 3x Ishlaen Guard 10 Namarti Reavers That comes in at 1000 points on the dot and only 23 models. What do you guys think as far as it being a good starting point to build from and get to know the army? Thanks for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baiardo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I'm a newbe but reavers are our worst unit at the moment, point cost/stat is bad. Interesting is their ability to shoot 3x at 9'' range..if you don't mind lose them. I would play a tidecaster instead of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolf Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 6:00 PM, Chronos said: Hey, I'm considering starting a IDK force soon in order to do something different than my Tzeentch, and they drew my eye based on a few things: I like the speed and ability to pick fights, can start some units in reserve, many of the models have grown on me, and I can have a functional army without hordes to paint and the eels look like they will be great for airbrushing. Although this might be not a great time to start them with the rumours of changes coming, I doubt they would be nerfed into oblivion, and with already p;aying Tzeentch I really don't want to start another top meta army like Seraphon or Lumineth. Anyway, here's what I was thinking for 1000 points, mainly eels: Akhelian King 6x Morrsarr Guard 3x Morrsarr Guard 3x Ishlaen Guard 10 Namarti Reavers That comes in at 1000 points on the dot and only 23 models. What do you guys think as far as it being a good starting point to build from and get to know the army? Thanks for the advice. you migth also want to consider swapping reavers for thralls, then you can start off a start collecting box. personally I don't find the thralls particularly competitive but they look cool and gives you at least something apart from eels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonnenspeer Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, baiardo said: I'm a newbe but reavers are our worst unit at the moment, point cost/stat is bad. Interesting is their ability to shoot 3x at 9'' range..if you don't mind lose them. I would play a tidecaster instead of them. Reavers are super! But you are right, the list needs a second hero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronos Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Thank you for the replies. Funnily enough I was out buying some models just now to get things going. I did get the Reavers, mainly because I just really like the models so I will probably try and make them work. If not at least I'll enjoy painting with them. I feel like they could surprise some people and maybe pick off a support hero in turn two or soften up a target for the eels. They effectively have a 17" range for the three shots and with a re-roll run... probably going to bump that to 20". Turn two maybe run and shoot and get 3-5 wounds down on something, maybe more if they are low armor. If they get shot, or I lose them then that's less focus on the eels. Just what I figure I'll try, maybe they'll be awful. As for another hero, I could change the core of the list to: 2x3 Morrsarr 1x3 Ishlaen 10 Reavers Then I could either do Volturnos and a Soulscryer for 1000 points, or take a King, Tidecaster, and Lotann also for 1000 points.Or don't take Lotann and take an extra command point. Pretty excited to get going, thanks for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baiardo Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 21 hours ago, Chronos said: Thank you for the replies. Funnily enough I was out buying some models just now to get things going. I did get the Reavers, mainly because I just really like the models so I will probably try and make them work. If not at least I'll enjoy painting with them. I feel like they could surprise some people and maybe pick off a support hero in turn two or soften up a target for the eels. They effectively have a 17" range for the three shots and with a re-roll run... probably going to bump that to 20". Turn two maybe run and shoot and get 3-5 wounds down on something, maybe more if they are low armor. If they get shot, or I lose them then that's less focus on the eels. Just what I figure I'll try, maybe they'll be awful. As for another hero, I could change the core of the list to: 2x3 Morrsarr 1x3 Ishlaen 10 Reavers Then I could either do Volturnos and a Soulscryer for 1000 points, or take a King, Tidecaster, and Lotann also for 1000 points.Or don't take Lotann and take an extra command point. Pretty excited to get going, thanks for the advice. Lothan is my favorite model in all of AoS, really a shame is not really an option to play. Go for tidecaster and extra command point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocKeule Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 If you go really Namarti-heavy he would be worth his points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planar Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Hi everyone Just considering to take the plunge into ID mostly for modelling / collecting reasons (I find the models gorgeous in their hyperbole-I mean...flying sharks !!!!) My question is, are there any viable lists that are not totally dominated by eels? After studying the book, it seems that eels are two leagues above anything else but I dont want to be painitng more than 6 of those dudes. Especially with the Eidolon and the flyng turtles/ flying sharks as potential models to be included. I am not looking into building something top tier. Most of my gaming is casual with the odd local tournament. I need something that has a viable gaming chance that includes as many of our beautiful models as possbile. Any ideas/ insight would be greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonnenspeer Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, Planar said: ... Any ideas/ insight would be greatly appreciated! Thats my list with the same goals in mind - ok, 12 eels, but with every game I play, I want more eels... 🥴 Allegiance: Idoneth Deepkin- Enclave: Dhom-HainAkhelian King (230)- General- Bladed Polearm- Command Trait: Born From Agony - Artefact: Sanguine Pearl Eidolon of Mathlann, Aspect of the Storm (360)- Artefact: Cloud of Midnight Isharann Soulscryer (130)3 x Akhelian Ishlaen Guard (140)6 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (340)3 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (170)1 x Akhelian Allopexes (100)- Razorshell Harpoon10 x Namarti Reavers (120)Akhelian Leviadon (310)Akhelian Corps (100) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planar Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Sonnenspeer said: Thats my list with the same goals in mind - ok, 12 eels, but with every game I play, I want more eels... 🥴 Thanks @Sonnenspeer I feel you. I have been stubornly tryying to play Ironjawz with brutes instead 100000000 ardboyz 😆. Its a futile exercise. At least the eels are nice models So how ow does your list fare so far? any particular weaknesses/ strong points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonnenspeer Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Overall the list is strong in round 1 and 2 (fast, charge bonus for eels), but crumbles to dust very quickly. Especially against armys with a lot of summoning or good save. So round 3 when IDK would fight first, there is often nobody left to fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NkfPanda Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 8 hours ago, Sonnenspeer said: Thats my list with the same goals in mind - ok, 12 eels, but with every game I play, I want more eels... 🥴 Allegiance: Idoneth Deepkin- Enclave: Dhom-HainAkhelian King (230)- General- Bladed Polearm- Command Trait: Born From Agony - Artefact: Sanguine Pearl Eidolon of Mathlann, Aspect of the Storm (360)- Artefact: Cloud of Midnight Isharann Soulscryer (130)3 x Akhelian Ishlaen Guard (140)6 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (340)3 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (170)1 x Akhelian Allopexes (100)- Razorshell Harpoon10 x Namarti Reavers (120)Akhelian Leviadon (310)Akhelian Corps (100) Love this list 😍. God I hope the Morathi book makes list building viable in competitive formats with the Eidolon and Turtle! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcce Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Came into some IDK recently and have been loving painting them. So decided to try and make the cheapest 2k list possible. (Started with the eidolon and some thralls). Always wanted to use Gotrek in an army and this seems the way to go. Allegiance: Idoneth Deepkin- Enclave: IonrachMortal Realm: GhurLeadersAkhelian King (230)- General- Bladed PolearmIsharann Soulscryer (130)Isharann Tidecaster (100)- Artefact: Augury Shells- Lore of the Deeps: Arcane CorrasionGotrek Gurnisson (520)- AlliesEidolon of Mathlann, Aspect of the Storm (360)Battleline10 x Namarti Thralls (120)10 x Namarti Thralls (120)6 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (340)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsChronomantic Cogs (80)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 520 / 400Wounds: 81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalassic Monstrosity Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) Hi everyone! I'm looking for a new army to oppose my friend's Lumineth and I've been considering Idoneth (I've been considering a lot, I'll be honest). I'm just curious. I like Allopex... Allopexes? Allopexi? And Namarti. I don't want to go eel-heavy (even though I know that's The Thing). I have to ask: what Enclave would support that sort of army best? Further, how well do you all think I would do against Lumineth? Thanks for any answers in advance! Edit: I'm also considering adding Bundo Whalebiter in partly to continue the nautical theme and partly as a big target to soak enemy fire. Edited October 11, 2020 by Thalassic Monstrosity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Isle Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Honestly that sounds like such a cool refreshing list and a match up that will make a great story! And definitely get the Gargant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocKeule Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 11:15 PM, Thalassic Monstrosity said: Hi everyone! I'm looking for a new army to oppose my friend's Lumineth and I've been considering Idoneth (I've been considering a lot, I'll be honest). I'm just curious. I like Allopex... Allopexes? Allopexi? And Namarti. I don't want to go eel-heavy (even though I know that's The Thing). I have to ask: what Enclave would support that sort of army best? Further, how well do you all think I would do against Lumineth? Thanks for any answers in advance! Edit: I'm also considering adding Bundo Whalebiter in partly to continue the nautical theme and partly as a big target to soak enemy fire. Well I hope you give Bundo a snorkel 😂 As far as the enclave goes: Fuethán would be the traditional choice for an cavalry-heavy list although I personally think that missing out on the Ebb Tide is a huge disadvantage. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwill_of_the_Woods Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Quick question and reflection: I have been playing Meeting Engagements (before lockdown), and usually stay around the 1000-1250pt mark. I play Deepkin (Dhomhain - I have always loved the Realm of Beasts) and also Fyre Slayers. I noticed that the Fyreslayers were really able to get on to an objective and hold it, whereas with the IDK I felt that my strategy was to aggressively take objectives then retreat and retake if needed. Is this something that you also experience, or do you use specific units for holding objectives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwill_of_the_Woods Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 10:15 PM, Thalassic Monstrosity said: Hi everyone! I'm looking for a new army to oppose my friend's Lumineth and I've been considering Idoneth (I've been considering a lot, I'll be honest). I'm just curious. I like Allopex... Allopexes? Allopexi? And Namarti. I don't want to go eel-heavy (even though I know that's The Thing). I have to ask: what Enclave would support that sort of army best? Further, how well do you all think I would do against Lumineth? Thanks for any answers in advance! Edit: I'm also considering adding Bundo Whalebiter in partly to continue the nautical theme and partly as a big target to soak enemy fire. That sounds like a fun theme! Using the Ionrach enclave would give Bundo the Tides of Death. Maybe worth considering! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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