GeneralZero Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 That is why the StD a great for me: by using those allegiance, I can play in the future with all the big chaos monsters with a single army! This is the beauty of StD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombiepiratexxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 How do you fit Archaon into a StD list? I'm an AoS noob but it looks like he is Everchosen with his own (rather limited) Everchosen options and looking at Slaves to Darkness in Battlescribe you can't add him into a regular list. And, at 2000pts he's outside the points of allies where I'd imagine he'd be front of centre of mortal armies. I'm obviously missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 At the moment, the simple answer is no; but seeing GW gathering those allegiance together in their shop (like they did for some other factions, latest beeing gobs), it seems pretty clear to the comunity that the upcoming chaos book will be StD+Everchosen+darkoath in one faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent of Chaos Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 In the meantime you can run Archaon with slaves units as Chaos Undivided allegiance. The slaves allegiance is trash anyway so you're not losing much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masake Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Agent of Chaos said: In the meantime you can run Archaon with slaves units as Chaos Undivided allegiance. The slaves allegiance is trash anyway so you're not losing much. I don't think it is that trash, at least not the Slaanesh one! Re rolling runs and charges + having Lord of Chaos to enable you to RUN + CHARGE, it is great! But the artefacts are uber TRASH! Man, I'd love to use the MARK OF THE ALL FAVOURED to give my Daemon Prince or Lord of Chaos all of his abilities, but GW thought it was TOO STRONG and denied us it in the FAQ! Come on GW... is not that StD are strong right now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent of Chaos Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 True the aura effects aren't all bad however a 6" range is pretty limiting and the khorne buff especially is pretty useless for a lot of units, especially if you bring a warshrine. I was mostly referring to the eye of the gods allegiance ability which is highly situational with mild to weak benefits even when it does go off. And yes, the artifacts are all fairly average to poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 55 minutes ago, Agent of Chaos said: True the aura effects aren't all bad however a 6" range is pretty limiting and the khorne buff especially is pretty useless for a lot of units, especially if you bring a warshrine. I was mostly referring to the eye of the gods allegiance ability which is highly situational with mild to weak benefits even when it does go off. And yes, the artifacts are all fairly average to poor. Auras all have a range of "sacred number" now, 6" was the last ghb. Mark of khorne does allow you to save your warshrine for a different unit, same with mark of nurgle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent of Chaos Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 My bad, range is still short though and the buffs pale in comparison to more fleshed out allegiances. And again, the main issue is with the other half of the allegiance ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Agreed. Tonight was my 7th or 8th game with slaves, and the first time I've actually gotten to roll on it. At least I didn't get turned into a spawn! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent of Chaos Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 What did you get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Nothing exciting - reroll next failed hit/wound/save. Wouldn't mind, but it was the last combat in turn 5 anyway! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masake Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 12 hours ago, AdamR said: Auras all have a range of "sacred number" now, 6" was the last ghb. Mark of khorne does allow you to save your warshrine for a different unit, same with mark of nurgle. Sadly Slaanesh sacred number is 6! ahahahhaha At least for me, I always have an HQ next to units so the range is not that bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 LVO is the second weekend in February, and they do a nice big reveal there. With the hobby tutorials and the new Underworlds warband, I'm fairly expecting to see a Slaves to Darkness Battletome out of it. Easy bet is a "soup" Battletome that also includes Everchosen. Maybe Command Abilities and Artifacts also split between "traditional" Slaves (Chaos Lords, Sorcerers, etc) vs Darkoath Barbarians (Warchief, Shamen?, new stuff). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Franklin Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I'm actually really hoping they'll include some of the mortal units from other chaos factions. Kind of like the Beasts of Chaos and the Tzeentch dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Godsworn Hunt https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-godsworn-hunt-en.pdf Nice to have a basic troop with 2 ranged options also. I hope they are not too hight in points. By the way, the superb thing that interest me: they are Slave to Darkness !!! Doarkoath is officially StD. I'm happy. Now, we have to see the mounted troops (light cavalry?) and (fingers crossed) a bigger beast (big mounted or bigger monster...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) Maybe is Grawl is a sign of updated Chaos Warhounds? Current ones look a bit outdated (still better than Dire Wolves). Edited January 19, 2019 by michu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 4 hours ago, GeneralZero said: Now, we have to see the mounted troops (light cavalry?) Other than adding bows to the horsemen, not sure what they could do with a 2nd light cavalry option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleb Daark Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I agree, but it’ll be interesting to see what slant they put on these guys. i wonder if they will all get this preferred target thing that the warband have. Im particularly interested to see what new centrepeice if any and terrain peice and endless spells the darkoath/everchosen/slaves release will get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Kaleb Daark said: Im particularly interested to see what new centrepeice if any and terrain peice and endless spells the darkoath/everchosen/slaves release will get. Be cool if a Chaos Warpgate/Realmgate becomes a thing. Or just a huge Shrine of Chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungface Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, GeneralZero said: By the way, the superb thing that interest me: they are Slave to Darkness !!! Doarkoath is officially StD. I'm happy. Wouldnt look too much into this if i was you. The other 3 Harbingers all had keyword changes once their faction had a release. Edited January 20, 2019 by Ungface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Ungface said: Wouldnt look too much into this if i was you. The other 3 Harbingers all had keyword changes once their faction had a release. But they didn't lose any, shaman is still moonclan, and ordinator is still Stormcast. So Warqueen and Godsworn Hunt could gain Darkoath keyword, but they'll be StD too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungface Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just now, michu said: But they didn't lose any, shaman is still moonclan, and ordinator is still Stormcast. So Warqueen and Godsworn Hunt could gain Darkoath keyword, but they'll be StD too. Thats doesnt mean they are officially confirmed to be staying Slaves to Darkness. they could just be interim StD so they can be used easily in games until the Darkoath Keyword actually means something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Something like that never happened. On the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I think Darkoath may become a keyword, but will not be separate from Slaves to Darkness or whatever the heck the Undivided army will be called. I can't really see them becoming a full on faction, unless it's a relatively "micro" faction like Daughters of Khaine which relies a lot on dual kits (5 dual kits+character is the entire army). If anything, the Harbingers so far have been a "part" of a larger army. Ordinator is Sacrosant, a keyword within SCE. Fungroid Cave Shaman is Moonclan, a keyword within Gloomspite Gitz. And alright true, Knight of Shrouds is in his own army, Nighthaunt, but NH is pretty large faction (without relying on dual kits....not counting hex wraiths) and half of the NH models can also be a part of Legions of Nagash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungface Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, michu said: Something like that never happened. On the contrary. The difference is that the warqueen is the one harbinger assigned to an antirely new army whereas the other 3 were already in somewhat fleshed out factions. Dont forget that the harbinger scrolls completely change once the army is released. Including generic orfer keywords to stormcast for example Also no one saw what happened to nighthaunt coming, and not many people predicted they could expand the nighthaunt range from basically spirit hosts to what it is now. They could easily create a huge and varied darkoath range. Edited January 21, 2019 by Ungface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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