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  1. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    @TheHarrower I have no doubt 80 reavers buffed that way will do a job for you. Therein lies the problem though (for me anyway), painting 80 reavers? No thanks! I'm happy with the minimum 20 and 5-10 Blood Warriors for gore pilgrims. Thats the beauty of this game though, so many possible army builds to suit whatever your flavour happens to be. Priest reliability is a big thing for me because they are such a threat. The flexibility of blood boil/blood bind is great and getting killing frenzy/bronzed flesh/blood sacrifice off can be key to your strategy. Outside of gore pilgrims I feel that priests become a "nice to have but not going to rely on" type of unit which is a shame and makes the requirement of taking one in Dark Feast a bit of a tax for me. having said that, its great to see you loving and being successful with one of the lesser used battalions. I have no doubt that many people have incredible stories of damage caused by Insensate Rage Thirsters but I bet there are plenty more stories of him whiffing his 4/5 attacks and getting immediately cut to pieces, or not even making it into combat before being focus fired on by an aware opponent. I am interested to know what you think the appropriate points for Insensate Rage is, especially if (when) the mortal wounds are no longer on 6+. I have mixed feelings on khornes current situation but mostly happy and not wanting too many changes. We have great command traits/artifacts/prayers, multiple battleline options, multiple hero and unit options, some useful battalions, BUT lots of redundant/unuseable battalions, a good number of unused heroes, a poor (albeit fitting) and limited allegiance ability when compared to similar armies. I think the fact we are getting a new battletome shows that GW recognized that Khorne had been left behind in the AOS2 meta and overall am fairly sure it will be a positive update.
  2. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    I get you! I guess Karanak's new rule fits that bill and agree it would be awesome to see more of our unbinding units doing damage following successful unbinds. A way to dispel endless spells once on the table would be good too although I agree with many who have suggested one of our new endless "somethings" might do that job.
  3. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    I dont think Khorne could be any more-anti magic. Between the Bloodsecrator banner effect, Brazen Rune, 2 Bloodtithe option and unbinding options from Wraith of Khorne Bloodthirster (+2), Flesh hounds (+1 in units of 10 with rerolls from daemon hero), Slaughterpriests, etc. I've shut down Tzeentch and Undead magic regularly with these options. Any more anti-magic at this point is surely just overkill.
  4. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    @TheHarrower You dont even need to "ally" in a warshrine if it has mark of khorne. Dark Feast is nice but its only buffing Reavers and doesnt help the priest become more reliable. The mortal wound output offered by Gore Pilgrims is unmatched at the moment. @Forrix The Insensate Rage Thirster is a bit swingy, needing 6's to wound with only 4 attacks, and dies easily so 260 is probably about right. @Coyote yeah pretty much no unbuffed unit deleter currently available. Even 30 x Bloodletters needed extra attacks, if not bonuses to hit, to really shine and that was when the mortals were on 6+. 10 x Skullreapers can do a job but hitting on 4's means they need their rerolls happening before they really shine. A Wraith of Khorne bloodthirster with +2 Damage (Immense Power + Death Dealer) can put out a heap of reliable damage without further buffs, especially if he can use the breath and whip before charging. But why talk in unbuffed terms anyway? AOS is all about buffs and debuffs and its pretty rare, especially for a hammer unit, to operate without any buffs on them.
  5. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    @Killax I reckon you are close to the mark with those sub-factions. The abilities won't be OP and hopefully none of them is a more obvious choice over the others. My biggest concern is that choosing a sub-faction will force us to take a unique command trait and artifact. If the Stormcast book is anything to go by these generally range from OK to Meh! and that would be a shame for us as currently our command traits and artifacts are some of the best things about our allegiance. Things like Immense Power & Brazen Rune among several others are really powerful and I would have to think twice about losing access to these in exchange for weaker ones and free sub-faction abilities. Of course our current traits/artifacts might be reworked although I doubt the review will be that in-depth.
  6. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    If the enemy model is still in range of a living Wrathmonger then yes it would still get +1 attack. If it was the last Wrathmonger that died then I would say no extra attack.
  7. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    Any guesses for what the sub faction abilities will be?
  8. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    I just hope they improved bloodtithe. The only other hint is the choice of various khorne sub-factions, similar to stormcast chambers I guess.
  9. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    And summoned khornate phenomena (aka khorne's answer to endless spells)
  10. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    With a new Skulltaker model
  11. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    New battletome announced at LVO!!!
  12. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    I find Violent Urgency to be a pretty useful command trait in 1000 point games and so I would probably make the Bloodstoker your general. He represents the least threatening target compared to the priest or bloodsecrator and can move up with the units he is looking to buff. If you expect to encounter magic then Brazen Rune is the best artifact choice and I usually stick it on the Bloodsecrator.
  13. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    Plan sounds good. A khorne player with a mixed list just won Cancon so yes, khorne is competitive in AOS (although the second khorne player finished 51st so its swings and roundabouts). Blood throne is just trash rules wise- never see ppl use them. In addition, when you build the skull cannon you don't use the Herald that would stand on the throne so you just need a 40mm base for him and you're sorted :-)
  14. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    @grimgoldAn all Daemon army is certainly viable, as is an all mortal army. The most successful Khorne armies (from a tournament perspective) tend to mix a bit of both. However if you are a casual/narrative player then an all daemon army is fun, fluffy and more than capable of winning games. Be aware that most of the best buffs come from the mortal heroes (Bloodsecrator, Bloodstoker, Slaughterpriests, Lord on Juggernaught) although the best command ability and probably the best general is the Wraith of Khorne Bloodthirster. There is no reason why you couldnt have all daemon troops with a sprinkling of mortal daemon heroes- that way you only have a handful of models that dont crossover with 40K. Daemon Princes can be fun too. Based on your proposed purchases, there are a couple of daemon battalions that you should look at building towards such as Murderhost and/or BloodHunt. There is also a new battalion specially for the Wraith & Rapture units which you can increase in size with the start collecting box. If you do get a start collecting box I would recommend the skull cannon over the blood throne. The hardest part with an all daemon army is you need even more spare daemon units for summoning although there are other abilities to use bloodtithe on, besides you may not be in a position to summon until your units are dead anyway in which case you re-use the same models, so its not a major issue.
  15. Agent of Chaos

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    @AaronWIlson second what Killax said. 10 x flesh hounds will do way more for you in that list over the second unit of Blood warriors.
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