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  1. @Marcvs This is a huge deal for Khorne, who had almost no way (only answer was Unfettered Fury command ability) of handling shooting/magic heavy matchups. This is an answer to that and a massive deal. Also, there is a super strong hint that the army is being redesigned. Look at the last sentence written about the Blood Tithe reward: "The Blood God has given his followers special permission to use this as many times as they want – if enough blood is shed to earn it." Blood Tithe rewards never added extra attacks. Extra attack sources were always tied to an aura on a unit, up to 3: Bloodsecrator, Wrathmongers, and Aspiring Deathbringer.
  2. Seeing everything in the preview today (See: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/13/rip-open-reality-and-bestow-brutish-blessings-upon-your-followers-in-battletome-blades-of-khorne/) Strongly hints to me that we might be seeing an army redesign. A survivability buff via ward save for Daemons, and an extra attack buff that's not tied to an aura?!
  3. @Thrax See 17.2 of the core rules, one of the sidenote blips: "A model in a garrison can still do anything it could do if it were on the battlefield, apart from moving. For example, it can cast spells, issue commands, and so on. When it does so, measure the range and visibility from the terrain feature." And last sentence of the second paragraph for 17.2.1: "The range and visibility to and from models in the unit are determined using the terrain feature instead of the models themselves." Also note the first sentence of 17.2.1 (I just saw this while writing this post myself): "During deployment, a friendly unit can be set up in a defensible terrain feature’s garrison if the terrain feature is wholly within an area in which friendly units can be set up." This allows you to deploy the Bloodsecrator into the Skull Altar so he can immediately fling out whatever Judgment/Invocation you brought in your list. Very nice to get the Wrath Axe out early!
  4. You chant the Judgment with another Hero (say, the Bloodsecrator as his auras now increase in size while garrisoned) so the Slaughterpriest can do a Blood Blessing, a generic prayer (ie Blessed), or a Warscroll prayer.
  5. As of today with the latest Battlescroll update, Blood Tithe no longer resets! Rejoice! See: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/22/a-big-balance-update-hits-the-mortal-realms-as-war-comes-to-gallet/
  6. Yes they still do. The 5+ roll to see if our Judgments remain at the end of the battle round is still in play as it was not errataed out.
  7. Think I figured out something for Daemons, originally I was disappointed greatly by Leave None Alive still be restricted by being issued by Heroes, so this required a perspective change. Instead of trying to get Bloodletters to fight twice, I remembered an old combo I tried to do but didn't work in 2nd ed because there weren't as many CPs. Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster Lord of the Blood Hunt command ability + Bloodletter Hellblade Decapitating Blow. Give Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster the Crimson Crown artifact for maximum efficiency, and fish for them 6s to hit in the same manner as Skullreapers. We keep our pile in 6" shenanigans via Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury command ability Rejoice in the Slaughter. It's one of those "aura" command abilities that do not count affected units as receiving a command. "Some older command abilities specify that the effect of the command ability applies to multiple units within a certain distance of the unit that is issuing the command (for example, all friendly units with a specific keyword). When this is the case, the command is both issued and received by the same model, even though the effect of the command applies to the specified units within the specified range. The model that issued the command cannot issue or receive another command in that phase (because a model cannot issue more than 1 command in the same phase and a unit cannot receive more than 1 command in the same phase), but could do so in a future phase even if the effect of the command lasts for longer than the phase in which the command was issued. The other units that benefit from the effect of the command do not count as having received the command (and so are not prevented from receiving a different command in the same phase)" pg 2 of core rules errata I put together a list I'd like to give a whirl this week with this module on place but with other threats involved: Allegiance: Khorne - Slaughterhost: Reapers of Vengeance - Grand Strategy: Sever the Head - Triumphs: Inspired Leaders Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster (310) in Warlord #1 - General - Command Trait: Mage Eater - Artefact: The Crimson Crown Slaughterpriest (110) in Warlord #1 - Prayer: Bronzed Flesh Slaughterpriest (110) in Warlord #1 Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury (295) in Warlord #2 - Artefact: Harvester of Skulls Bloodsecrator (125) in Warlord #2 - Artefact: Skullshard Mantle Skulltaker (130) in Warlord #2 Karanak (150) Battleline 20 x Bloodletters (230) in Warlord #1 - Reinforced x 1 20 x Bloodletters (230) in Warlord #2 - Reinforced x 1 5 x Flesh Hounds (105) 5 x Flesh Hounds (105) Endless Spells & Invocations Wrath-Axe (85) Core Battalions Warlord #1 Warlord #2 Additional Enhancements Artefact Artefact Total: 1985 / 2000 Reinforced Units: 2 / 4 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 115
  8. I have a legit theory that Khorne is the Chaos book in October. There are 3 hints in the fluff areas of the core rulebook that suggest this pg 32 "Khorne is made stronger by every conflict, for he is rage incarnate - and with the recent eruption of barbarism in Ghur, his potency increases once more...." pg 45 "Ghur's fall began with skirmishes and hunting parties that killed for the sake of killing, but ended in a realm-wide war between man, beast and greenskin. When the gore flowed so thick that one could no longer tell friend from foe, the true scions of the Brazen God became manifest. The savage tribes found themselves fighting not only horned creatures of flesh and blood - fierce but at least obeying the brutal logic of tooh and claw - but hideous, otherworldy daemons that sent the lands spiralling ever further down into an abyss of dark and senseless slaughter. The fight for survival that had typified the Realm of Beasts became more desperate and bleak than ever before, as the land itself, awoken by so much spilt blood, brought its deadly hunger to bear." pg 183, last two sentences: "Now, as a new and savage era begins, Khorne is poised to ascend once more. The Era of the Beast suits him well, and all who thought to profit from his past setbacks will be a taught a bloody lesson." Compile this that Khorne got absolutely nothing in Broken Realms.
  9. Same, I'm in the camp that Skullcrusher stock has jumped dramatically now that they can almost function completely on their own with the changes to command abilities. I'm waiting on erratas to see if Juggerlord's command ability goes back to +1 to wound like how it was in the first BoK book. Him being bravery 9 also helps with Heroic Recovery, so he should be healing.
  10. Skullcrushers went to a 3+ save with the 2nd ed book in exchange for the spell ignoring shield ability. So factoring in All Out Defense is how the 2+ is coming about.
  11. Correct, the Flesh Hound is treated like a mount as detailed on the warscroll. See: 27.3.1 ENHANCEMENT RESTRICTIONS Enhancements cannot be given to Unique units (see 25.6.1) or allied units, unless noted otherwise. In addition, artefacts of power and command traits that affect attacks made by friendly models do not affect attacks made by their mounts, unless noted otherwise.
  12. I've come to the same conclusion as well since these will save us CPs, just need erratas to drop now.
  13. If you don't want to do the calculations, I did them myself, take a look! 5x Flesh Hounds +5 10x Bloodletters -5 10x Bloodreavers +10 Blood Warriors +10 (New min size of 10) Aspiring Deathbringer +5 Bloodmaster +10 Bloodsecrator +5 Bloodstoker +5 Exalted Deathbringer +5 Herald of Khorne on Blood Throne +5 Korghos Khul -15 Lord of Khorne on Juggernaut -5 Mighty Lord of Khorne -5 Scyla +10 Skarr Bloodwrath +5 Skullgrinder +10 Skullmaster +5 Skulltaker +10 Slaughterpriest +10 Valkia - No change Insensate Rage Bloodthirster +10 Unfettered Fury Bloodthirster +25 Skarbrand - No change Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster +10 Bloodcrushers +10 Garrek's Reavers +5 Karanak +10 Khorgorath +10 Mighty Skullcrushers +10 Riptooth and Magore's Fiends +5 Skullreapers +25 Wrathmongers +15 Bleeding Icon +10 Hexgorger Skulls +20 Wrath-Axe +25
  14. Not yet as I'm waiting for points and unit sizes to be revealed, but the GHB 2021 battalion that's all Monsters is like tailor-made for Thirsters. Free pre-game move? Yes please!
  15. It'll certainly be confusing for Blood Warriors, as take a look at the unit size from 1st Ed starter: 5 models. Bloodreavers are 20 in that starter and in the multipart box so I can totally see the unit going to 20 models minimum. From what I've seen All-Out Defense does seem to work in the opponent's shooting phase, which is quite handy. The coherency rules only affects Bloodreavers and Bloodletters for the most part, as big units of Blood Warriors wasn't quite handy to keep them in our wholly within bubbles. The questions I keep having I believe will be covered in GHB 2021 and/or the first wave of erratas. Some of these are: - Does Blood Tithe reset after being used once? - How is Reapers of Vengeance Leave None alive being reworded... can 30x Bloodletters finally fight twice without super Rube Goldberg machine shenanigans?
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