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I am going to post my uninformed and baseless speculation. AOS: I think that we will very likely get a fairly complete picture of the Lumineth range and a teaser for the Sons of Behemat, I think there will be a teaser image that will hint at new armies. I imagine an image featuring a representative of each grand alliance, Lumineth, Sons of Behemat, Vampires and Slaanesh mortals. I think that there will be a new Warcy box featuring Scions of the Flame and hopefully 'a new season' of warbands. We will also get a preview of the missing Underworlds Warbands, if there are any still outstanding reveals (I have not been following the reveals very closely). Personally I would be intrigued by a new Warhammer quest box for AOS but do not consider it likely. 4OK: I do not play 40K so you can ignore this section entirely as it is entirely baseless speculation on my part. I am hoping to see reveals for Dark Mechanicum and Exodites as those are two armies that would really make me consider joining the game. I also expect a new Kill Team expansion box in the same vein as Rogue Trader and something Blackstone Fortress related. I would love for a return of Battlefleet Gothic.

I know that this is entirely baseless speculation, but I am curious if the Scions of Flame were delayed to kickstart a second season of Warcry releases. If so this could be an entirely new warcry warband which would be neat. I am also becoming more convinced that something interesting is going on with Slaanesh and Malerion...

I absolutely love the new mage and the Daughters of Khaine Underworlds set. However, I am sad about no Warcy news and the archers are thus far my least favourite Lumineth models (I actually don't mind the hats, they simply feel to static to me). Oh and I am totally converting those Necromunda 'Death-maidens' into Warqueens for my chaos army! 😃 So going in with no expectations, I am actually overall quite happy with these reveals.

As excited as I am for new rumours, I am also looking for a breather post Seraphon. Hopefully we get some cool models for Warcry and Underworlds. As for Adepticon I have no clues or even speculation. However, here are my biggest hopes: Lumineth for Order, Sons of Behemat for Destruction, Slaanesh Mortals for Chaos (Aelvish followers) and something Vampire themed for Death. I also would like a supplement for naval/aerial units with a focus on Idoneth, Kharadron, Scourge Privateers and hopefully Grotbag Scuttlers and or Vampire Coast. Also as someone with only passing familiarity with 40k, I am still holding out hope for a Dark Mechanicum army.

I am playing 30 warriors in my list right now. 20 with sword and shield and two units of five with two hand weapons. It is fun and makes them feel unique, as I have a nice defensive core and two choppy units. They make a fun little hammer and anvil. I also play casually and doubt this is the most efficient use of my warriors.

Seraphon are sounding very fun and it seems as though they provide very versatile play options. I was originally contented with many of the smaller factions in AOS but this makes me think every army needs the option to, at least, run a pure monster variant.

I really like all the start collecting boxes particularly the new Skink box. My cousin is just getting into AOS with his old lizardmen and this is such great timing.

Is that not what I was stating? I think that chariots or warmachines would give Ironjawz new options that differ aesthetically from Bonesplitterz. I think it would diversify the range, especially with a hero option allowing a chariot to be built in two ways, but I did not know/think that chariots were that fundamentally broken in AOS.

I have always thought that Iron-Jawz needed a warmachine option or at least a chariot, as I believe even rudimentary technology would help give them a distinctive identity from bonesplitterz. The chariot option would be especially nice if you could put a hero on it.

@Koradrel of Chrace I suppose that superiority is something that I shouldn't be discussing as I just started collecting the ill formed abandoned sea dwellers. I have to say Aelven lore in AOS is so fascinating and the best carry over from the old world in my opinion. Returning to the function of the thread, I am really excited to see what the future holds for Seraphon lore and I really hope that Oxyotl will return in some fashion. But I do not think Chameleon Skinks made it into Warcry which makes me a little worried that they will not return at all.

That is until Malerion shows you what true superiority looks like...

I have yet to pick it up from my cousin, but it is a head swap and greenstuff on the chest plate. Depending on how the greenstuff works out I will see if I shall keep it or remove it, as the head swap is plenty in my opinion in conveying the appearance.

Hey Folks, I just got my hands on the Idoneth battleforce and I am very excited to be playing one of the most interesting and unique factions in the game. However, I am feeling a touch overwhelmed in terms of moving forward with the faction. I will probably get the start collecting set and my cousin has recently gifted me with a neat custom Akhelian Queen. I think that my army will not end up being very competitive, mixing infantry and cavalry, but I think that will be a more interesting force to collect and paint. I suppose I will very gradually move towards a more eel focused list. I look forward to learning the faction's play style and coming up with an interesting theme for my army.

I think Beasts of Chaos fit your needs but as @Myrdin suggests they are not in a great competitive space right now. I also think Flesh Eater Courts is a fantastic choice as their start collecting set is pretty much exactly what you have outlined.

The (current and ever evolving) lore for my Slaves to Darkness force is that they are the Cardinals of Chaos. They were devoted followers of Sigmar who went on a crusade to the Eightpoints to reclaim artefacts, lost to the forces of Chaos, and then they disappeared. Their families remembered them as heroes and then after a generation the soldiers reappeared with the greatest gift of all... the word of their dark lords. They are now on a new crusade to bring their faith to the mortal realms and to bring more under the banner of Archaon. The marauders and warcry units will be the initial converts to the Cardinals while the heavily armoured Knights, Warriors and generals will be the crusaders themselves. I am also inventing a background for the characters based loosely on the Borgia family. I just started an Idoneth army as of yesterday. I am still looking through their lore trying to pin down an exact theme for my own army's lore but I do know that I want them to be made from the souls of my old Warhammer Fantasy Dark Elf army. I would love some help on expanding their lore.

@Baron Klatz I was able to find some free time and swing by the hobby-shop and got my hands on the battleforce. Thanks for the encouragement, and I am excited to get to work on my sea elves. Although, I promised my partner I would finish my painting my Chaos first.

@Baron Klatz thank you for the advice. I will take the plunge but I am very busy this week and I am not sure if I can grab it until the following week, hopefully it doesn't get sold in that time. I will report back if I am able to purchase it, but I am getting excited about the thought of getting some nautical themed elves. They will also help fill the hole from of my old Dark Elf army, that I regret selling many years ago.

Oh I absolutely expect cuts, I was entertaining the fact that the only way I can imagine that they may get a new model would be in a dual box... 😓

Does anyone suspect a dual box for Seraphon? That would likely result in at least one new sculpt. I would expect it to be a plastic hero as that seems to be the standard for these boxes. It appears we are not getting an updated Slaan. Therefore, I think it would be cool to get a Chameleon Skink hero that could be built as Oxyotl. I can imagine Oxyotl stalking the Eightpoints and taking the hurt to Chaos once again.

I am in a similar boat and it is driving me nuts. I am looking to create an order army to combat my Slaves to Darkness and I cannot even begin to think of the best army for me. I am interested in Aelvish armies but Stormcast are the most cost efficient particularly with the Battleforce. I am drawn towards Daughters of Khaine but they lack a start collecting box which is a good entry point. I also can get my hands on an Idoneth Battleforce which is very tempting but I prefer their infantry which are apparently not great (although I am leaning hard in this direction). I tend to prefer 'elite' armies and my friends play Seraphon and Cities of Sigmar (Focus on Dispossessed) and I do not want to step on their toes. Returning to your situation, I will add another vote for a fun Beastclaw oriented Ogor army. It will, not only be different, but it can let you fill your army with monsters. I like the suggestion of a Gristlegore focused Flesh Eater Court army that is full of dragons/terrorgheists but I feel it may be better to focus on a different alliance. Beasts of Chaos might be a fun alternative if (like me) you are not overly concerned about the competitive viability of the army, and can open you up to more Chaosy-goodness. There are also persistent rumours about Giants getting their own army but I cannot speak to that in any meaningful way.

So does that mean the rule that I posted does not currently apply to any unit? I cannot find a single unit that contains a damned legion in its warscroll. Sorry for harping on this rule, I just really want to run a Gaunt Summoner in my Ravager list.

Sorry for the delayed response, I was moving and as such my battletome was packed away and I was only able to get to it today. On page 67 it states "f a unit already has a Damned Legion on its warscroll different to the one you chose, it cannot gain another. You can still include that unit in your army, but you cannot use the allegiance abilities for its damned legion". I assumed that meant that the Gaunt Summoner could not use Rally the Tribes as it is one of the Ravager's allegiance abilities and it has Everchosen listed on it's warscroll?

@JPjr That is why I prefer named characters that can either be built as alternate units or proxy for alternate units. I think it is great that Volturnous can be an Akhelian King or Arch-Kavalos Zandtos can be built as a Liege-Kavalos. Despite being different models, I will gladly allow someone proxy Gotrek as a Doomseeker or Lord Kroak as a regular Slann. But it gets tricky when the army does not have an easy alternative as with characters such as Archaon, Lady Olynder or the Celestant-Prime. It is interesting that they just alleviated this concern with Brokk Gurngsonn and the Endrinmaster with Dirigible Suit. Sometimes I just want my Lord of Change to have two heads with none of the fear of contradicting the lore of Karios Fateweaver.

I don't see why people are down on the Ossiarch's getting a foothold or any sort of power in the Allpoints. That seems like a major victory allowing Nagash easier access to the realms and also destabilizing Archaon's hold. Yes it is a baby step compared to Katakros killing Archaon. But I would be more upset if the main villain was just killed just for the sake of progressing the narrative and making the new guys seem tough.

@HariochI hadn't considered him for the ally role, as I always viewed Be'lakor as Chaos' answer to Starscream, but that would be a really awesome use for the character. I have also always wanted to buy his model and now that I have returned to Warhammer after a very long hiatus I am excited to finally get my grubby claws on him... although, I am a touch daunted by his resin wings.