Karol Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 What are the frostgrave barbarian, I couldn't find them on the GW site or at my store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozokus Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, Karol said: What are the frostgrave barbarian, I couldn't find them on the GW site or at my store? It is because they come from a completly different company (tomahawk studio of somethin'?) with a different universe (still fantaisie but in the snow). They mostly have a viking look which match more or less the one of the marauders (less barbarian, more bearded guys, think the wildlings of Games Of Thrones). okayish quality, monopause and a tiny little bit smaller. Cheaper yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karol Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Ok, our store owner is a very can't play with stuff that isn't stuff we sell at the store kind of a guy. But good to hear there are valid stand in models for GW stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medivouk Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I'm playing about with an army list at 2k. Mostly for fun games at my local club. C and c welcome Allegiance: Khorne Bloodsecrator (120) Bloodstoker (80) Aspiring Deathbringer (80) - General - Bloodaxe and Wrath Hammer - Trait: Slaughterborn - Artefact: The Brazen Rune Skullgrinder (80) Daemon Prince of Khorne (160) - Artefact: The Crimson Crown 10 x Blood Warriors (200) - Goreaxe & Gorefist 30 x Bloodletters (270) 10 x Blood Warriors (200) - Goreaxe & Gorefist 40 x Chaos Marauders (200) - Axes & Shields - Mark of Chaos: Khorne 5 x Wrathmongers (180) 5 x Wrathmongers (180) 5 x Flesh Hounds (100) Bloodforged (140) Total: 1990 / 2000 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 178 main plan is to wrap the wrathmongers and buff characters in the two big units, forming 2 combat blocks, and then letting the hounds and blood warriors hold/ get objectives or join the scrum as appropriate. I know murderhost and gore pilgrims are more meta, but bloodforged seems fun to build and play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praecautus Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 12 hours ago, medivouk said: I'm playing about with an army list at 2k. Mostly for fun games at my local club. C and c welcome Allegiance: Khorne Bloodsecrator (120) Bloodstoker (80) Aspiring Deathbringer (80) - General - Bloodaxe and Wrath Hammer - Trait: Slaughterborn - Artefact: The Brazen Rune Skullgrinder (80) Daemon Prince of Khorne (160) - Artefact: The Crimson Crown 10 x Blood Warriors (200) - Goreaxe & Gorefist 30 x Bloodletters (270) 10 x Blood Warriors (200) - Goreaxe & Gorefist 40 x Chaos Marauders (200) - Axes & Shields - Mark of Chaos: Khorne 5 x Wrathmongers (180) 5 x Wrathmongers (180) 5 x Flesh Hounds (100) Bloodforged (140) Total: 1990 / 2000 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 178 main plan is to wrap the wrathmongers and buff characters in the two big units, forming 2 combat blocks, and then letting the hounds and blood warriors hold/ get objectives or join the scrum as appropriate. I know murderhost and gore pilgrims are more meta, but bloodforged seems fun to build and play That looks like a fun list, my only tweak would be to include a priest or second unit of hounds for more antimagic cover - you only have 1 unbind right now. Just not sure what o would change to get them in. I say give it a few battles and see what happens and then update the list based on how well it meets your playstyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOMUS Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I'm waiting with baited breath to see what new dispel options we get. In the new magic teaser they mention khorne might get the short straw but it will be readdressed. Hoping this means new book and not just bolt on rules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karol Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Maybe some of our dudes end up costing 1/2 the points, to balance other factions magic and artilery etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 7:44 AM, Karol said: our store owner is a very can't play with stuff that isn't stuff we sell at the store kind of a guy. (Basically you’re exchanging time on a game table for ‘advertising product they sell’ by playing with it on the game table.) That being said, what @Killax said. Bloodletters unless you have specific needs for either Chaos Warriors or Marauders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 1:48 PM, medivouk said: Allegiance: Khorne Bloodsecrator (120) Bloodstoker (80) Aspiring Deathbringer (80) - General - Bloodaxe and Wrath Hammer - Trait: Slaughterborn - Artefact: The Brazen Rune Skullgrinder (80) Daemon Prince of Khorne (160) - Artefact: The Crimson Crown 10 x Blood Warriors (200) - Goreaxe & Gorefist 30 x Bloodletters (270) 10 x Blood Warriors (200) - Goreaxe & Gorefist 40 x Chaos Marauders (200) - Axes & Shields - Mark of Chaos: Khorne 5 x Wrathmongers (180) 5 x Wrathmongers (180) 5 x Flesh Hounds (100) Bloodforged (140) Total: 1990 / 2000 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 178 Following in the line of @Praecautus I’d recommend making space for a Slaughterpriest or other unit with the Priest keyword to cast Killing Frenzy on the Bloodletters. That would give you 2+ to hit and mortal wounding on 5+ For them As long as you have at least 20 of them on the table. The fleshhounds would be good ... but the priest opens up options for prayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gertat Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 So when we get to use more units command abilities in AoS 2,0, that opens up some alternative lists. What do you think of this aggressive list Allegiance: Khorne Leaders Karanak (100) - General Daemon Prince of Khorne (160) Daemon Prince of Khorne (160) Skaarac the Bloodborn (500) Bloodstoker (80) Bloodstoker (80) Battleline Units 5 x Flesh Hounds (100) 5 x Flesh Hounds (100) 5 x Flesh Hounds (100) 1 x Khorgoraths (80) 1 x Khorgoraths (80) 1 x Khorgoraths (80) 1 x Khorgoraths (80) 1 x Khorgoraths (80) 1 x Khorgoraths (80) Battalions Blood Hunt (130) Total: 1990 / 2000 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 125 You can move the the Flesh hounds forward in the herophase and the move+charge Stoke the 2 Daemon princes and move+run+charge and the rest follows and can run and charge Engage the enemy the first turn at multipel places. Bonus you get a lot of dispel from the Flesh hounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent of Chaos Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Fast and nasty! Probably not much point sending the hounds into melee though. I would use their speed for objectives while the Korgis and Princes wreck face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyTheKing Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just like to mention today is day 8 of previews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBuddha Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Here's my list in anticipation for the new 2.0 rules - Allegiance: KhorneBloodsecrator (120)Bloodstoker (80)Skullgrinder (80)Slaughterpriest with Hackblade and Wrathhammer (100)Slaughterpriest (100)Slaughterpriest (100)10 x Blood Warriors (200)- Goreaxes20 x Bloodreavers (140)- Reaver Blades20 x Bloodreavers (140)- Reaver Blades5 x Garrek's Reavers (60)5 x Wrathmongers (180)5 x Wrathmongers (180)Gore Pilgrims (180)Dark Feast (200)Bloodforged (140)Total: 2000 / 2000Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 128 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyTheKing Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 4 hours ago, JonnyTheKing said: Just like to mention today is day 8 of previews Well that was a disappointing preview for Khorne, we didn't really learn of any specific changes to our faction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Has anyone used Creature Caster's Lord of Slaughter as a replacement for Skarbrand or a Bloodthirster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, JonnyTheKing said: Well that was a disappointing preview for Khorne, we didn't really learn of any specific changes to our faction Well BoK is already a pretty solid faction with a few meh units like khorgoraths and some slightly pricey battalions. Heck I wouldn't be surprised if Bloodletters get a point increase. Its all the sweeping changes that really affect bok anyways like look out sir protecting support heroes and using fast units to tie up shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, JonnyTheKing said: Well that was a disappointing preview for Khorne, we didn't really learn of any specific changes to our faction Well... indirectly we know that you’ll be able to get Khorgoraths without needing to get useless Stormcast Eternals. Signs on the old starter sets are saying they will be removing the Blood and Thunder set, along with the standard Starter set. (They are also retiring the original “mighty Battles” book.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Well I think the article pretty much showed nothing new, except for the one piece of artwork, which is nice. Also gives the suggestion that even Khorne followers have some form of a community. I agree that Blades of Khorne is solid as is, in the end all that makes or breaks a faction though is Pitched Battle Profiles in Generals Handbook when we are talking about competitive approaches and usefullness. It isn't their core design that is broken... If anything I'd say a Bloodsecrator has become more in line with other Heroes due to his effect not being all to different from a Command Ability anyway. All I really hope is that we finally will see the Daemon + Bloodbound Keywords adressed. As before it still makes no sence that a Khorne Lord with a Fleshhound is just Mortal, or a Khorne Lord on a Juggernaut for that matter and yes same applies to Mighty Skullcrushers. But other than that, yeah the focus for this new edition will not start out with Khorne vs Stormcast. Doesn't really matter to me but it also means that it will thake a long time before Khorne will see another update. Slaanesh is first, so one spark of hope that remains is an eventual Khorne update in 40K's World Eaters which then (perhaps 2019) will bring forth a separate Khorgorath and plastic Fleshhounds. Still looking very forward to this Blood Brothers because melee combat focus is where it's at this new edition. This will please Khorne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Killax said: All I really hope is that we finally will see the Daemon + Bloodbound Keywords adressed. As before it still makes no sence that a Khorne Lord with a Fleshhound is just Mortal, or a Khorne Lord on a Juggernaut for that matter and yes same applies to Mighty Skullcrushers. Yep ... the keywords for the Lord Of Khorne on Juggernaut are different than the original Compendium version that was “Khorne Lord on Juggernaut” (but have identical stats/Abilities) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheOtherJosh said: Yep ... the keywords for the Lord Of Khorne on Juggernaut are different than the original Compendium version that was “Khorne Lord on Juggernaut” (but have identical stats/Abilities) Yeah both lore in AoS confirms that Juggernauts and Fleshhounds are Daemons. With both lore I mean the old Bloodbound Battletome and the Blades of Khorne Battletome. I don't really have any particular fear for this edition. There is one thing that can change too much to make BoK unviable though, which would be to either cap the Bloodsecrator further down or make it even more expensive... We will see what occurs. So while I like army list ideas under the new edition I really think it's way too early to think about that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Annoyingly enough (or not, depending on the point of view) this isn't an issue in DoT, HoS, or MoN. Either way, it should be consistent across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karol Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 For new players like me, does it mean it is going to be really hard to get enough models without the big starter? I don't have the whip guy and am not going to pay the scalper price people want for him. Strange write up, lots of pictures, and not much about the army changes. The 50pts command point seems interesting, I often end up with 150-200pts not spend on anything. I hope that GW won't nerf slaughter priests too much, and that gore pilgrims, something am aiming to play, won't get hit by the nerf bat either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherJosh Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Karol said: does it mean it is going to be really hard to get enough models without the big starter? I’d recommend a conversion if you can’t get one. He’s a guy with a whip, and a prod on the arm on a 40mm base. (There’s a couple good options in the boxed Bloodreaver kit for the stub arm with prodder.) I fully expect that both the Bloodstoker and Khorgorath will be purchasable “stand-alone” when they’re actually removed as kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Karol said: I don't have the whip guy and am not going to pay the scalper price people want for him. Weird. My experience is that there is a total glut of these guys on eBay, and they are cheaper than almost any other AoS miniature... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richelieu Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Roark said: Weird. My experience is that there is a total glut of these guys on eBay, and they are cheaper than almost any other AoS miniature... Yeah I don't know about in mainland Europe, but I'm looking at one on eBay in the States that is brand new, $6.79 shipping included. That's 1/4 the standard price of a hero miniature... Wish I could get stuff I need for that price lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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