HollowHills Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 You can download it on Google play and sign in right now. It seems very good. If they make it so you have to sub to WH+ and pay to unlock the book rules as well then it will be trash. For now you can see all the rules and warscrolls on there for free. There is also a working army builder. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoby Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Pleasantly surprises by the app so far! Perhaps I'm missing it, but it would have been nice to have an option for open play and especially Path to Glory lists (with places to mark glory points etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrycontra Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Having briefly tested it, it seems very good app. If warscrolls are available for free in the future, I see nothing wrong with this app, I'd say it is even clear improvement over azyr (the fact that I can look at artifacts and read their effects while I'm selecting them is great bonus). Basically everything now depends on just how much is going to be behind paywall when the actual app is released and not beta (army builder is gonna be behind paywall for sure and the army rules require battletome which I'm kinda okay with, but warscrolls should be all available for free in the future as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 From the bit talking about the app on the latest Sunday Preview on Warhammer Community: "You can try it out for free once the beta version goes live, so keep an eye out for more details later next week." So the freeness does appear to be temporary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talas Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Looks way better than I thought. Hopefully, only the Storm Forge part will be behind the paywall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suedester Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, HollowHills said: You can download it on Google play and sign in right now. It seems very good. If they make it so you have to sub to WH+ and pay to unlock the book rules as well then it will be trash. For now you can see all the rules and warscrolls on there for free. There is also a working army builder. They are absolutely going to lock it behind those paywalls as I’m sure you’re aware. Paywalls don’t make something trash. The app seems surprisingly good thus far. I’m sure errors and bugs will be found though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Talas said: Hopefully, only the Storm Forge part will be behind the paywall. From the description on the play store it looks like you will only be able to access info from books you've paid for: "This app is an invaluable tool for anyone who enjoys playing games of Warhammer Age of Sigmar. It provides you with a quick and easy way to check your rules in the heat of battle, browse battletomes you own, and plan your next army. Core Rules Read the Core Rules in the app for free." This suggests the core rules are the only bit that will stay free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 It seems like I currently don't own any devices that can run the app (without some effort, at least). While that's on me for having a cheap, old phone and even though I have the necessary know-how to eventually solve this problem, it shows one of the new barriers of entry that having all the warscrolls only available on the app will create. However, if the warscrolls stay free on the app, I am not especially worried. If GW does not put them behind a paywall, chances are they won't go after 3rd parties for reproducing them online. So eventually there will be websites that just allow you to look up warscrolls from an internet browser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) From The Red King's post on the Warscrolls thread quoting an email they received: "This all-new app is completely free while it's in beta, so you can use it to its fullest and help us make it even better. Once the beta period comes to an end, the app will become another awesome part of Warhammer+ along with Warhammer 40,000: The App, and loads more – another fantastic reason to subscribe to the ultimate Warhammer service." So the whole things being paywalled. But feel free to use it for now and contribute your time to GWs development of the app for free, which they'll then charge you to use. Grrr. Edited September 15, 2021 by EntMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Ninjad by my own qoute XD lol But yeah there is a chance they paywall everything else and leave the warscrolls available (so just like Azyr) so I guess that's fine if we don't expect any increase in product for their increased profits, but I refuse to buy W+ for more than I paid for the azyr app just because they couldn't be bothered to actually make their subscription service appealing to customers. Edited September 15, 2021 by The Red King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, The Red King said: Ninjad by my own qoute XD lol Apologies if I've broken any forum etiquette here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, EntMan said: Apologies if I've broken any forum etiquette here. It's all good man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, EntMan said: Once the beta period comes to an end, the app will become another awesome part of Warhammer+ "But yeah there is a chance they paywall everything else and leave the warscrolls available" The first quote suggests the entire app will be behind the the W+ paywall. So nowhere for free warscrolls to be free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Army Name: Bonesplitterz Army Notes: Test Army Faction: Orruk Warclans Army Type: Bonesplitterz Subfaction: Icebone Battlepack: Pitched Battles Points Limit: 1000 pts General: Wurrgog Prophet Grand Strategy: Hold the Line Units Wurrgog Prophet (General) Battlefield Role: Leader Command Traits: High Priest Artefacts of Power: Amulet of Destiny Spells: Glowy Green Tusks Points Cost: 150 pts Savage Orruks Battlefield Role: Battleline Points Cost: 165 pts Savage Orruks Battlefield Role: Battleline Points Cost: 165 pts Savage Big Stabbas Battlefield Role: Other Points Cost: 80 pts Savage Orruk Arrowboys Battlefield Role: Other Points Cost: 145 pts Skitterstrand Arachnarok (Ally) Battlefield Role: Behemoth Points Cost: 200 pts Wardokk Battlefield Role: Leader Points Cost: 80 pts Total Points: 985 pts Valid: Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App Used the clipboard function from the app for this. I needed to get used to seeing all allies in the list building options though. I could use all the artifacts and spells but couldnt see the rules from the battletime artifacts and spells. They required me to buy the tome. Edited September 15, 2021 by Iksdee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Well Azyr had a free part of the app (warscrolls, core rules) and then the things you paid for (list builder, battletomes). The fact that this app also has all of the FAQ in one easy to access place would make paywalling the whole thing a really silly move. So yeah GW will probably do that. On the topic of the actual app, though I'm loathe to provide them free feedback so they can sell it back to me, coalition units in a Blades of Khorne army dont have any way to select a mark leaving them ineligible for artifacts. Also the app thinks 3 beast units is somehow more than (1 in 4) of 13. Not sure what the error there is. Edited September 15, 2021 by The Red King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Red King said: The fact that this app also has all of the FAQ in one easy to access place would make paywalling the whole thing a really silly move. Pay us money for our books and then pay us a subscription to access our corrections and clarifications to the books you've paid for! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowHills Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 37 minutes ago, suedester said: They are absolutely going to lock it behind those paywalls as I’m sure you’re aware. Paywalls don’t make something trash. The app seems surprisingly good thus far. I’m sure errors and bugs will be found though Paying once to use the app, then having to buy battletomes on top to even use their rules in the app seems trash to me. I'll stick to the alternative. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Imagine your HoA put a gate up to block off the road you were using to get into your neighborhood and then happily announced that access to this awesome gate is included with one purchase of a pool pass (for a pool that has like 3 feet of water in it but dont worry we're gonna fill it up later!) Oh and you can't buy it any other way so 'included' may not be the BEST term. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Apparently there's also an FAQ for the app which is almost comically evasive on future paywall Edited September 15, 2021 by Marcvs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, HollowHills said: Paying once to use the app, Paying once a month to use the app... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodos der Henker Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Perfect marketing so far Give stuff away for free to build a community and people heavily invest into the game Now take away the free stuff and let people pay for it, and because they already have invested so much they will pay to keep their investment "worth it" In addition, because the community is big it will trag in more new people than the number who leave because of the changes Profit For now I am not even sure if I am going to buy the new SCE book at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talas Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 In the page about how to redeem codes says: "You can unlock the content from your battletome in Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App without a subscription. Once the open beta is complete, the app will become another awesome part of Warhammer+. A subscription will get you access to even more content, including the Storm Forge army-building tool, as well as loads of other Warhammer+ benefits." https://www.warhammer-community.com/app-ageofsigmar-redeem/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) So they double paywalled the digital rules? U need the battletome and warhammer +. Seems fair XD lol. I do like the app so far. I can see things that could be still be improved but it runs smooth. At least on my phone and its not by any standards a new phone. Edited September 15, 2021 by Iksdee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Honesty, i wasnt looking forward to this new app, and probably wasnt viewing in the best light, but my impression is “meh app is … fine.” Its nice that all the rules are accessible …for now, but organising by publication can be counter intuitive. I tried, for example, to find the rules for Misthavn in Broken Realms Morathi, but all the different faction rules are mixed up together. I understand that we will be expected to buy each book, but once ive bought the books why not organise the rules i have access to by faction / subfaction. i would have like stormforge to offer a link to warscrolls as i build, much like warscroll builder. I guess other niggles like units are not marked as conditional battleline before selection; and non responsive formatting of text on units with long names will be resolved during beta. So it will be fine. Technically, the app seems to do its job, but the interface and underlying structure of the app isnt to my taste. Maybe it will grow on me. For now, id rather stick with azyr and warscroll builder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Iksdee said: So they double paywalled the digital rules? U need the battletome and warhammer +. Seems fair XD lol. I think its saying you DONT have to have a subscription to access the rules to the battletome you already paid for. A good thing but we'll see how much of the app stays locked even when you buy the books. It could easily be enough to make it not worth it if you don't pay. Built in inconvenience to market convenience is a well known strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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