Bibob45 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 @Andrethegreat Daemon Prince can't have the Undivided Mark of chaos, so it might be worth considering another mark for your army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunslingerOy Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Hello, would a chaos nurgle marked unit in a slave to darkness army count as the bold worded version Nurgle and thus proxy all the mirror match nurgle stuff where you can heal them? Would the gnarlmaw benefit them? Wondering how that would work for a teams game, if my partners STD units would benefit from my stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibob45 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, GunslingerOy said: Hello, would a chaos nurgle marked unit in a slave to darkness army count as the bold worded version Nurgle and thus proxy all the mirror match nurgle stuff where you can heal them? Would the gnarlmaw benefit them? Wondering how that would work for a teams game, if my partners STD units would benefit from my stuff As a Slaves to Darkness army, even if you have units with the NURGLE keyword or mark of chaos, you cannot benefit from the Maggotkin of Nurgle Army specific attributes (gaining/spending contagion points, setting up Feculent Gnarlmaw, picking traits/artifacts/spells etc.) However, you benefit from everything that applies to NURGLE keyword units. This includes buffs from the current cycle of corruption, effects from Feculent Gnarlmaws, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, GunslingerOy said: Hello, would a chaos nurgle marked unit in a slave to darkness army count as the bold worded version Nurgle and thus proxy all the mirror match nurgle stuff where you can heal them? Would the gnarlmaw benefit them? Wondering how that would work for a teams game, if my partners STD units would benefit from my stuff For many Nurgle rules that are worded to affect NURGLE Units without specifying friend or foe this is correct, which is part of the charm behind thoose rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimrock Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 51 minutes ago, GunslingerOy said: Hello, would a chaos nurgle marked unit in a slave to darkness army count as the bold worded version Nurgle and thus proxy all the mirror match nurgle stuff where you can heal them? Would the gnarlmaw benefit them? Wondering how that would work for a teams game, if my partners STD units would benefit from my stuff As others have said, the StD units do become Nurgle but it comes down to how the rules are written. Be sure to read carefully and make sure you clearly define how the teams relate to eachother. For example you'll need to decide if a teammates models count as 'Friendly' or not because some models like the Glottkin only affect friendly Nurgle units, whereas other abilities like the putrid blightkings healing affects all Nurgle units within 3". For the Gnarlmaw in particular, the FAQ has updated the 'Entropic Chimes' ability to only work in the commanding players charge phase, so it would only work if you're sharing phases with your teammate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrethegreat Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Bibob45 said: @Andrethegreat Daemon Prince can't have the Undivided Mark of chaos, so it might be worth considering another mark for your army. Thank you, you are wright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Can an allied Slaughterpriest receive the general Curse prayer? Edit: As per 27.3.1 they can't. It's a bit unlucky because a Slaughterpriest with Curse would be great for StD Edited July 23, 2021 by Charleston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drib Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 52 minutes ago, Charleston said: Can an allied Slaughterpriest receive the general Curse prayer? Edit: As per 27.3.1 they can't. It's a bit unlucky because a Slaughterpriest with Curse would be great for StD Next to 27.3.5: Quote Taking a prayer scripture enhancement allows every Priest in the army to know 1 prayer from a prayer scripture. That's the "unless noted otherwise" part from 27.3.1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 So it works only under the condition that I take the enchancement, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drib Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Yes, but you can take one enhancement of each type by deafault, when building your army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Guys if I play my varanguards with 6s to hit MW weapon with slaanesh mark, if I got a 6 to hit , it explode( slaanesh aura) + i got the effect of the weapon? What happen ?🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boar Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Tizianolol said: Guys if I play my varanguards with 6s to hit MW weapon with slaanesh mark, if I got a 6 to hit , it explode( slaanesh aura) + i got the effect of the weapon? What happen ?🤔 You have to chose one of effects to apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Ok thx, thats sad:( now the question is : better Daemonforged blade with another mark or slaanesh with another weapon? Thats an hard decision:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boar Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, Tizianolol said: Ok thx, thats sad:( now the question is : better Daemonforged blade with another mark or slaanesh with another weapon? Thats an hard decision:) When it comes to damage Daemonforged Blade are the best weapon from Varanguard. And even if you would use Slaneesh+Ensorcelled, still Daemon Blasdes would be slighlty better. Khorne + Daemonforge Blade is generally best combination for offense. It will give you rereoll ones close to hero, which gives you more chances to score those quite important nowadays Mortal Wounds. And if that hero is general it will give you +1 to wound. Vs high saves there is really noticable difference there, thanks to those MW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Ye I think khorne + demblades is the best! I m thinking about fellspear + slaanesh for unit of 3 !! As glassa cannon unit should be so mutch dmg in charge!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boar Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tizianolol said: I m thinking about fellspear + slaanesh for unit of 3 !! As glassa cannon unit should be so mutch dmg in charge!! Now with more armor everywhere -2 rend on charge can be useful. In 2.0 I would say it's probably not that good, but new rules gives Fellspears new lease on life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarband Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Hi varanguard still good in 3.0? I whant too start knights of the empty throne its strong build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibob45 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 I think it is still very good! New coherency might be akward for blocks of 6 varanguard, but they benefit a lot from the increased CP generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindstormSCR Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 10:52 AM, Bibob45 said: @Andrethegreat Daemon Prince can't have the Undivided Mark of chaos, so it might be worth considering another mark for your army. regular CDP can't, belakor does though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1tchhunter Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Odd question, is there any S2D list that would work well with a verminlord in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy_Diver Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Hi dudez! This week I'll try this Knights of The Empty Throne list for a future 2 day tournament:REGGIMENT: 6x Varanguard (General; mark of Nurgle, Unescapable Doom, Grasping Plates) 1x Sorcerer 1x Lord 30x Marauders (Mark of Slaanesh) 20x Warriors (Mark of Tzeentch) 5x Knights (Mark of Nurgle) 1x Warshrine 1x Harbinger of Decay (allied) It's early to know the exact point where the meta stands, but obvisously I must train against Archaon, SoB, DoK, Idoneth, Fyre and Ogors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukishiro1 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, W1tchhunter said: Odd question, is there any S2D list that would work well with a verminlord in it? You can't take Skaven as allies with STD...so no. 😁 In fact, nobody can take Skaven allies in the new GHB. I thought Nurgle used to be able to take Pestilens allies, but apparently even that was removed. Edited August 3, 2021 by yukishiro1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1tchhunter Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, yukishiro1 said: You can't take Skaven as allies with STD...so no. 😁 In fact, nobody can take Skaven allies in the new GHB. I thought Nurgle used to be able to take Pestilens allies, but apparently even that was removed. Ah ****** really? That sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
readercolin Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 23 hours ago, yukishiro1 said: You can't take Skaven as allies with STD...so no. 😁 In fact, nobody can take Skaven allies in the new GHB. I thought Nurgle used to be able to take Pestilens allies, but apparently even that was removed. Nurgle can not take Pestilens as Allies, but can take them as Coalition. This means that you are still limited to 1/4 units, but you aren't limited in any way by points. If they hadn't put the restriction in that your general can't be coalition, and you can't use coalition battleline, this would have meant that you could have done 2/4 StD, 1/4 Pestilens, and 1/4 Beasts of chaos, leaving 0 actual Nurgle units... but the general and battleline restrictions means that in a 2k game you will always have to have a minimum of 4 Nurgle units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukishiro1 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Oh, yeah, there we go, it got changed to coalition instead for Nurgle, so it's in the FAQ instead of the pitched battles. Still doesn't help STD, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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