Gaball Slaaneshi Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, Baron Klatz said: Remember it’s a small team doing that stuff under the specialist studio. They don’t have anywhere near the resources like the main studios. You’re looking at something like full Kislev in a year but it’ll take up any other TOW release for that year. I didn't mean that, but if GW couldn't release today because of logistic and calendar, we can suppose that they could do it in the future, in one year when a Core Game will not require the half of the logistic, like AOS or 40k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) Getting a combined Bonesplitterz and Spiderfang tome would be the dream #nevergonnahappen. Edited April 2 by Gitzdee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 14 minutes ago, Dragon-knight77 said: So Beastmen are safe and Dwarfs are safe all that require is Bonesplitterz are safe and everything will be right in the world Confusion well something not right 1 minute ago, Gitzdee said: Getting a Bonesplitterz and Spiderfang tome would be the dream #nevergonnahappen. #nevergonnahappen. (again for BS) 6 minutes ago, Chikout said: Given that the game seems to be doing well, a second edition launch box with those two factions would be pretty amazing. I would assume they have start the whole invasion of Kislev since that basically the horus heresy to the old world having Norsca (or Warrior of chaos) vs Kislev would be a good match up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnusaur Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I don't know if The Old World will be on a 3-year-cycle like the main games, but I'm fully expecting the re-release of old (supported) armies to take most of this year, leaving campaigns and what not for next year. Maybe then we'll see Kislev and Cathay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Klatz Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Dragon-knight77 said: Confusion well something not right Probably devil in the details like not all the BoC are going extinct(such as dragon-Ogors), dwarves don’t count as safe if Dispossessed are gone, Bonesplitterz have their own monkey’s paw, etc. That’s why it’s best to just wait for the indexes than start getting in a panic over what we can only speculate on. Edited April 2 by Baron Klatz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Given the continuing confused reactions from @Whitefang the future of BoC doesn't look that bright. If they are dropping BoC I really hope they give them an index even if it's similar in style to the old world factions. GW could even say they won't be allowed in official tournaments as most other events just ignore that. People were still playing Brettonians and Tomb Kings for years after AoS launched. At the very least, I'd like to see them get the chance to take part in AoS4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I feel like if an entire faction in AoS is getting executed, it would have been one of the first bits of information we received. Dragging it out would be truly diabolical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 22 minutes ago, Mutton said: I feel like if an entire faction in AoS is getting executed, it would have been one of the first bits of information we received. Dragging it out would be truly diabolical. I agree. They should have made that announcement as soon as they announced 4th edition but if they have to do it the announcement should be: 'We are sorry to announce that Beasts of Chaos will not be recieving a 4th edition battletome and the range will be moving to the Old World. If you wish to continue playing your army with your friends in 4th edition we will be releasing a battle pack for the faction but it will not be recieving balance updates in the future and as such will not be a legal army in official tournaments. We are excited to bring the army to the old world later this year complete with several new models." Any way they phrase it the news is awful but if they'd shared the news in March it would have given people time to rebase their army, choose a different army or go and play Conquest so by the time the new edition launches there isn't a shadow hanging over it. The longer they wait, especially with rumours floating around, the worse it will be. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Klatz Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 18 minutes ago, Chikout said: Any way they phrase it the news is awful but if they'd shared the news in March it would have given people time to rebase their army, choose a different army or go and play Conquest so by the time the new edition launches there isn't a shadow hanging over it. Probably the reason right there. They’re waiting until the 1st quarter financials are officially over before they break the news on whatever the change-up to BoC is so not to hurt sales by even 1%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lele Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) opps, we dont have Dawnbringer VI this week, and no leak for warscroll?, sad Edited April 2 by lele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurgog_on_a_Wyvern Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 4 hours ago, Gitzdee said: Getting a combined Bonesplitterz and Spiderfang tome would be the dream #nevergonnahappen. I would pledge my life to GW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 9 hours ago, Baron Klatz said: It does seem a sour note that Dispossessed are left out entirely. Hopefully they’ll get an Ironweld refresh to be closer to CoS aesthetics, would suck otherwise for players to be told the armies they just made are only good on squares(with double the numbers) and nothing else. I think you’re onto something here. That something is about City dwarfs being closer to ironweld than anything else… I think Cities is going to change its subfactions. It’s no longer gonna be humans, dispossessed, darkling covens - we have to start thinking in terms of freeguild, ironweld, wilder corps as the new fubfactions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 3 hours ago, Baron Klatz said: Probably the reason right there. They’re waiting until the 1st quarter financials are officially over before they break the news on whatever the change-up to BoC is so not to hurt sales by even 1%. Typical Corporate BS. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethebee Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 3 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: I think you’re onto something here. That something is about City dwarfs being closer to ironweld than anything else… I think Cities is going to change its subfactions. It’s no longer gonna be humans, dispossessed, darkling covens - we have to start thinking in terms of freeguild, ironweld, wilder corps as the new fubfactions. this, and i think the main conflict in the new book is meant to be "native peoples vs. azyrites" rather than "antics with all the races of the realms". i mean, tahlia and hammerhal as a whole is hugely representative of this shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Klatz Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 38 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: I think you’re onto something here. That something is about City dwarfs being closer to ironweld than anything else… I think Cities is going to change its subfactions. It’s no longer gonna be humans, dispossessed, darkling covens - we have to start thinking in terms of freeguild, ironweld, wilder corps as the new fubfactions. And don’t forget the electrifying personalities of the Devoted of Sigmar/Order of Azyr! We need that angle for both higher up Azyrite authorities watching over the native settlers and the links to those who push themselves to try and be chosen for Stormcast Eternals. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 5 hours ago, Whitefang said: Nah it's just they aren't able to release them at the moment. Super news 🙂! 5 hours ago, Baron Klatz said: Remember it’s a small team doing that stuff under the specialist studio. They don’t have anywhere near the resources like the main studios. You’re looking at something like full Kislev in a year but it’ll take up any other TOW release for that year. The scope of the project has changed. 😉 One of the most unique sentences mentioned in a Warhammer Community ever. The future looks very bright for TOW. That said I don't want it to be treated in the same way as AoS or 40K. Let those two games use the majority of GW resources. For TOW 2 Arcane Journals released per 3 months and after that Campaign books. In the same way as Hail Caesar / Blackpowder does it. Zooming in on certain major campaigns / battles. Please no recycle of the rules per 3 years. A couple of plastic sets and resin characters and lots of books is perfect for TOW. About AoS. If BoC is removed and the crazy idea that KS and FS are souped, it's time that GW does an article about it. Like they did with CoS (removal of certain units) and with TOW (which factions are core and which are legacy). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 6 hours ago, Gaball Slaaneshi said: Logistic problems I believe ? Logistics problems? Nah. GW don't know about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sealven said: Whitefang confused reaction *Huffs copium* The faction should be relaunched as Beats of Copium Edited April 2 by Ejecutor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Templar_Lad Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 6 hours ago, Whitefang said: Nah it's just they aren't able to release them at the moment. Now this. This does put a smile on my face. That means a lot Whitefang, thank you! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someravella Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I think that FS and KO being souped with Grungni is practically the same situation as BS, IJ and KB being souped with Kragnos. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 6 hours ago, Dragon-knight77 said: So Beastmen are safe and Dwarfs are safe all that require is Bonesplitterz are safe and everything will be right in the world Whitefang reacted with confused face... someone is not safe here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 33 minutes ago, Tonhel said: Super news 🙂! The scope of the project has changed. 😉 One of the most unique sentences mentioned in a Warhammer Community ever. The future looks very bright for TOW. That said I don't want it to be treated in the same way as AoS or 40K. Let those two games use the majority of GW resources. For TOW 2 Arcane Journals released per 3 months and after that Campaign books. In the same way as Hail Caesar / Blackpowder does it. Zooming in on certain major campaigns / battles. Please no recycle of the rules per 3 years. The confusing thing is it seemed like the scope of the project did change but in a negative way. Kislev and Cathay were originally said to be coming to the game but then weren't but now maybe are again?? With a project like this it definitely does make a certain amount of sense to start small, guage demand and then go from there but it doesn't seem to have been a very smooth process. I am very curious what 'the scope of the project has changed' actually means. It would be great if it meant adding support for the other legacy factions in the future or doing 3 plastic kits pet faction instead of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Klatz Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 7 minutes ago, Chikout said: Kislev and Cathay were originally said to be coming to the game but then weren't but now maybe are again?? It did feel a lot like the “Tomb Kings are classified as Evil race” to “Oh we just meant Core Race, haha!” and that ended up happening anyway. They were too blunt, had to back pedal with positivity but things still happened as they said(in this case the “not in the foreseeable future” likely meaning 2027 & 2028 releases) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Skaven will be more integrated in next book. Orruk Warclans will be more integrated in next book. Ogors will be more integrated in next book. Slaves to Darkness and Darkoath will be more integrated in next book. DoK and Malerion aelves will be more integrated in next book. The future is a new way of making factions after cleaning the "bad design heritage" of the actual system. More variety, more integrated, more possibilities and more deep lore. I am hyped about the future. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 3 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: Skaven will be more integrated in next book. Orruk Warclans will be more integrated in next book. Ogors will be more integrated in next book. Slaves to Darkness and Darkoath will be more integrated in next book. DoK and Malerion aelves will be more integrated in next book. The future is a new way of making factions after cleaning the "bad design heritage" of the actual system. More variety, more integrated, more possibilities and more deep lore. I am hyped about the future. What do you mean by integrated? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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