RexHavoc Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 34 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: @Vasshpit hehehe There's some really good AoS art, but I do find a lot of it to be very same-y and its been a while since a a single bit of AoS art really caught my eye but this one... wow. This one hits that sweet spot. I don't know if its because it captures that 'wouldn't look out of place on 2002 Black Library novel or cover of 1997 white dwarf' feeling so well, or because the artist went for a little more work in the background over that 'quick add some swirly BS in AoS-y colours with some vague chaos-y shapes that could buildings, could be things' that they moved into doing these days. Either way, be nice to see more of a mix of art styles all of the time and this is one of them I'd love to see more of. This should a book cover. I do wish they would list their artists again. I'd like to reach out to them and ask if they drew Gunnar looking so disgusted because the Hobgrots must be really, really cold and I have assume the poor fella is sadly getting an eyeful of their swamp nips 🤢 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, sandlemad said: This is a good piece and hits interestingly on the tension between how the Darkoath see themselves and what they know about the gods they’ve oathed to (in-universe, as opposed to the less interesting birds eye view of the reader). Also on the larger questions of the Reclaimed of the realms vs Azyrite conquest. More interesting and more grey areas, that tension that makes interesting stories. i really liked this interview, i'm just still not convinced GW/BL will do the nuance of indigeniety justice; Azyrite conquest is, by fact of the Age of Chaos, nominally the reclamation and purification of Chaos lands. I want to see more Reclaimed involved in both Stormcast and COS forces... there's a lot of talk about "dark mirrors" and counterpoints, but these differences are often best held together by a couple choice similarities. that being said, Chris Thursten sounds like he knows what he's about and wants to bring tension and nuance between these groups. I hope the editors let him do it. definitely sounds like a must-read for Darkoath and COS fans. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 27 minutes ago, OkayestDM said: We also need to consider that there were quite a few SCE kits released after Dominion, and we may be getting a lot of the Oldcast updates and/or Ruination units that way. yeah i'm actually considering waiting for the Christmas battleforce because i have a feeling/hope that the refresh will bring more multipart kits to Thunderstrike units 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danaork Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 6 hours ago, Garrac said: Les images teaser devraient commencer ce samedi, non ? At the last Nova open event, we received a teasing for : -3 days to go -2 days to go -tonight followed by chinese shadows. I thinK they'll aplicate this schema. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 27 minutes ago, Danaork said: At the last Nova open event, we received a teasing for : -3 days to go -2 days to go -tonight followed by chinese shadows. I thinK they'll aplicate this schema. In some other cases they started with a 5 countdown, IIRC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 55 minutes ago, EonChao said: It'll be Sylvaneth based with a swampy watery feel that will lead to TGA over reacting and imploding over the idea that both the Satyr and Centaur Kuronethi and the IDK are both being cancelled and removed from the game. What?! Kurnothi are being squatted? Outrageous! How can GW do this? 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 55 minutes ago, Danaork said: At the last Nova open event, we received a teasing for : -3 days to go -2 days to go -tonight followed by chinese shadows. I thinK they'll aplicate this schema. Nova reveals are not the same as the Adepticon ones. Last year Adepticon was 5 days prior, If I dont misremember anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Quote Broken Lance The big, stompy news this week is the arrival of Broken Lance, the first new animation to hit Warhammer+ in 2024. This single-episode show sees the Imperial Knights of House Corvec under attack from overwhelming Chaos forces, and they must fight not only for victory but also their house’s survival. No way... months of waiting for a new W+ series and it is a one episode one... 🤐 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EonChao Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 59 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: i really liked this interview, i'm just still not convinced GW/BL will do the nuance of indigeniety justice; Azyrite conquest is, by fact of the Age of Chaos, nominally the reclamation and purification of Chaos lands. I want to see more Reclaimed involved in both Stormcast and COS forces... there's a lot of talk about "dark mirrors" and counterpoints, but these differences are often best held together by a couple choice similarities. that being said, Chris Thursten sounds like he knows what he's about and wants to bring tension and nuance between these groups. I hope the editors let him do it. definitely sounds like a must-read for Darkoath and COS fans. I agree. I think what's interesting about the Darkoath is that, yes the realms that are being conquered by the forces of Order are ones that were previously conquered by the forces of Chaos, but there's a major issue of who is their rightful inhabitants. There may be those amongst the Dawnbringer crusades who are descendants of the inhabitants of those lands or those near them, but in the centuries of the Age of Chaos and Age of Sigmar how much actual connection do they have to that past, if there are any of them at all. Likewise the Darkoath do follow the Chaos Gods to an extent, but they're also both the descendants of those left behind and people who have lived in those lands for centuries during those ages. They are the indigenous people of those lands that have survived incredibly trying challenges and done so by making choices that may seem wrong compared to Azyrite civilisation but arguably aren't when it comes to survival. There is a very nuanced interesting concept of how this factors into concepts like colonialism, tradition, legacy and identity here that I'm certain GW won't explore properly and it really annoys me. Back when Black Library had an open submissions window for stories relating to the Dawnbringer crusades I sketched out a concept of a Sigmarite soldier encountering a Darkoath warrior and fighting, only to realise from the sigil each has incorporated into their outfits, that they're both descended from the same family, the Sigmarite from those who were away on a trade envoy when Chaos conquered the realms and were able to make their way to Azyr, and the Darkoath descended from those who stayed behind and survived. Annoyingly what left it incomplete was the sheer vagueness of information about the Dawnbringer Crusades and Azyrites themselves at the time due to the lag between 3rd ed and Cities update but it's a concept that I think is key to what makes the Mortal Realms interesting. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 21 minutes ago, EonChao said: I agree. I think what's interesting about the Darkoath is that, yes the realms that are being conquered by the forces of Order are ones that were previously conquered by the forces of Chaos, but there's a major issue of who is their rightful inhabitants. There may be those amongst the Dawnbringer crusades who are descendants of the inhabitants of those lands or those near them, but in the centuries of the Age of Chaos and Age of Sigmar how much actual connection do they have to that past, if there are any of them at all. Likewise the Darkoath do follow the Chaos Gods to an extent, but they're also both the descendants of those left behind and people who have lived in those lands for centuries during those ages. They are the indigenous people of those lands that have survived incredibly trying challenges and done so by making choices that may seem wrong compared to Azyrite civilisation but arguably aren't when it comes to survival. There is a very nuanced interesting concept of how this factors into concepts like colonialism, tradition, legacy and identity here that I'm certain GW won't explore properly and it really annoys me. Back when Black Library had an open submissions window for stories relating to the Dawnbringer crusades I sketched out a concept of a Sigmarite soldier encountering a Darkoath warrior and fighting, only to realise from the sigil each has incorporated into their outfits, that they're both descended from the same family, the Sigmarite from those who were away on a trade envoy when Chaos conquered the realms and were able to make their way to Azyr, and the Darkoath descended from those who stayed behind and survived. Annoyingly what left it incomplete was the sheer vagueness of information about the Dawnbringer Crusades and Azyrites themselves at the time due to the lag between 3rd ed and Cities update but it's a concept that I think is key to what makes the Mortal Realms interesting. An example is Vandus. Vandus was a blacksmith from the tribe Direbrand, the same this new min from the Darkoaths is: What kind of relationship does Vandus have with this guy? I doubt he would have none, but at least the mini is kind of an easter egg to how Vandus was before being a Stormcast. Edited March 13 by Ejecutor 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, EonChao said: It'll be Sylvaneth based with a swampy watery feel that will lead to TGA over reacting and imploding over the idea that both the Satyr and Centaur Kuronethi and the IDK are both being cancelled and removed from the game. Remember that fake rumour about an IDK warband made of disgraced Akhelians becoming foot soldiers and taking the aspect of sharks and anglerfish ? I do… Whatever happens, I’m sure IDK will get a warband soon. Only factions without a Warcry band are Slaanesh, Skaven, KO, Sylvaneth, GSG, Beasts, IDK (Sons are apart so I don’t know). They’ll get some in the future for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luperci Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 14 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: Remember that fake rumour about an IDK warband made of disgraced Akhelians becoming foot soldiers and taking the aspect of sharks and anglerfish ? I do… Whatever happens, I’m sure IDK will get a warband soon. Only factions without a Warcry band are Slaanesh, Skaven, KO, Sylvaneth, GSG, Beasts, IDK (Sons are apart so I don’t know). They’ll get some in the future for sure. heavy infantry akhelian foot soldiers would definitely fill a niche that the army list is lacking currently, have them be flavoured as beast tamers/catchers and give them some fish friends edit: they could actually make a SoB warcry band, have a unit of creepers, as seen on Brodd, that could be very fun to see Edited March 13 by Luperci 5 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaellas Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) Okay, sudden thought with wondering what will be coming for 4th and Adepticon... remember with Leviathan people did the battles and submitted the result of Space marines vs Nids to see who would take over the planet and see what reveals are next? What if we get the same for Stormcast and Skaven with deciding whether the city the Stormcast are defending will survive or fall to the Skaven plus a pick of who gets the rest of their range revealed next? What if the refresh of Warrior chamber is in the box so it is easy for new players and Ruination comes later as the next more specialised bunch of units? It could even be that whether they defend the city or fail that it is the Ruination chamber that comes as reinforcements Edited March 13 by Vaellas 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 10 minutes ago, Vaellas said: Okay, sudden thought with wondering what will be coming for 4th and Adepticon... remember with Leviathan people did the battles and submitted the result of Space marines vs Nids to see who would take over the planet and see what reveals are next? What if we get the same for Stormcast and Skaven with deciding whether the city the Stormcast are defending will survive or fall to the Skaven plus a pick of who gets the rest of their range revealed next? What if the refresh of Warrior chamber is in the box so it is easy for new players and Ruination comes later as the next more specialised bunch of units? It could even be that whether they defend the city or fail that it is the Ruination chamber that comes as reinforcements 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Klatz Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 13 minutes ago, Vaellas said: Okay, sudden thought with wondering what will be coming for 4th and Adepticon... remember with Leviathan people did the battles and submitted the result of Space marines vs Nids to see who would take over the planet and see what reveals are next? What if we get the same for Stormcast and Skaven with deciding whether the city the Stormcast are defending will survive or fall to the Skaven plus a pick of who gets the rest of their range revealed next? What if the refresh of Warrior chamber is in the box so it is easy for new players and Ruination comes later as the next more specialised bunch of units? It could even be that whether they defend the city or fail that it is the Ruination chamber that comes as reinforcements Would love to see some Seeds of Hope global campaign antics again. That was such a fun time to see the three cities fought over and swing with player feedback & GW dropping GA buffs for each alliance on Facebook every few months until the conclusion. Cherry on top if it’s a fight over the new Ghyran settlement as a continuation of the Seeds of Hope cities. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaellas Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Also would love it to be the Ghyran city as I would love to see more of Ghyra in general. Aqshy can be left for the Blades of Khorne side of the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 19 minutes ago, Vaellas said: Okay, sudden thought with wondering what will be coming for 4th and Adepticon... remember with Leviathan people did the battles and submitted the result of Space marines vs Nids to see who would take over the planet and see what reveals are next? What if we get the same for Stormcast and Skaven with deciding whether the city the Stormcast are defending will survive or fall to the Skaven plus a pick of who gets the rest of their range revealed next? What if the refresh of Warrior chamber is in the box so it is easy for new players and Ruination comes later as the next more specialised bunch of units? It could even be that whether they defend the city or fail that it is the Ruination chamber that comes as reinforcements I don't expect a box full of refreshed minis, it has to contain something spicy to attract players who already have the non thunderstrike armour minis. So it would be probably a 50/50, but the vote thingy was fun, so probably they would repeat it. Sadly, if that's the case I foresee an easy win for rats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Klatz Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I mean, who thought the tyranids could beat the marines? online popularity doesn’t translate to tourney numbers by a long shot. Heck, 2020 tourney statistics in Northern Europe easily had SCE outnumber Skaven as 160 vs 30 on average. And if Skaven do prevail it’s not like they haven’t earned it having some of the oldest models right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitzok Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 10 minutes ago, Baron Klatz said: I mean, who thought the tyranids could beat the marines? online popularity doesn’t translate to tourney numbers by a long shot. Heck, 2020 tourney statistics in Northern Europe easily had SCE outnumber Skaven as 160 vs 30 on average. And if Skaven do prevail it’s not like they haven’t earned it having some of the oldest models right now. It wasn't tournament wins, it was just results people submitted of their own games. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Hypothetically speaking, how crazy would it be if GW moved all the non-Thunderstrike Stormcast to Legends? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoJon Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, PJetski said: Hypothetically speaking, how crazy would it be if GW moved all the non-Thunderstrike Stormcast to Legends? If it mirrors the Space Marines and Primaris Marines transition... it'll probably be a couple of books before non-thunderstrike gets retired. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I think the real question we need to ask is how long until the Ogor Update!! Im guessing Summmer 2025. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 5 minutes ago, DinoJon said: If it mirrors the Space Marines and Primaris Marines transition... it'll probably be a couple of books before non-thunderstrike gets retired. They would probably be more willing to do this with Stormcast than with Space Marines. If we know these units are all eventually going to get retired or replaced with Thunderstrike armour, why not just rip the bandaid off now? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 22 minutes ago, Baron Klatz said: I mean, who thought the tyranids could beat the marines? online popularity doesn’t translate to tourney numbers by a long shot. Heck, 2020 tourney statistics in Northern Europe easily had SCE outnumber Skaven as 160 vs 30 on average. And if Skaven do prevail it’s not like they haven’t earned it having some of the oldest models right now. I doubt even 75% of those putting the codes really played a game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: I think the real question we need to ask is how long until the Ogor Update!! Im guessing Summmer 2025. 4th ed in Summer 24. Nothing major until Winter 25. We would start with BTs... and some dual boxes... my bet is Winter 25 to 26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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