Ejecutor Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: In a feverish haze last night, an idea came to me. We know Stormcast are going to end up in the starter boxes because they're the poster-starter faction. However, What if the LAUNCH BOX had some new Cities unit(s) mixed in? Perhaps a new shrine unit and new flagellants or militia? If it's Stormcast vs Skaven this could be an opportunity to use the 4e launch box as a combined Order force against Skaven saboteurs. (i'd also prefer not getting net-new Stormcast on top of redone oldies. just give us thunderstruck Warrior and Sacrosanct chambers!) using new COS cult units alongside redone stormcast would be an extremely fluffy introduction to 4e, opening the gates for COS wave 2, and make the Stormcast refresh land better. That would be gorgeous, but imo it won't happen. Sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferban Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 30 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: In a feverish haze last night, an idea came to me. We know Stormcast are going to end up in the starter boxes because they're the poster-starter faction. However, What if the LAUNCH BOX had some new Cities unit(s) mixed in? Perhaps a new shrine unit and new flagellants or militia? If it's Stormcast vs Skaven this could be an opportunity to use the 4e launch box as a combined Order force against Skaven saboteurs. (i'd also prefer not getting net-new Stormcast on top of redone oldies. just give us thunderstruck Warrior and Sacrosanct chambers!) using new COS cult units alongside redone stormcast would be an extremely fluffy introduction to 4e, opening the gates for COS wave 2, and make the Stormcast refresh land better. So this is just me wishcasting, but I'd love a "launch box" separate from a "starter box." In the past, they've done a launch box with a ton of minis, and then smaller starting sets that include various numbers of models. I would love to see the launch box as something more geared to existing players (and, hence, maybe SCE are not included), but then the starter boxes would feature SCE and whatever the new or updated faction for the release is. Maybe SCE and Skaven for the starter box, but the "launch" box features Skaven and 2nd Idoneth Wave. Or reimagined beastmen. Or whatever. The launch box is a limited item only, so it makes sense that it would be more marketed to existing players than the "starter" sets would be. But, that isn't how they did it in 40k 10th and I have no reason to believe that's how AoS 4 will go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 42 minutes ago, MitGas said: What I'd really prefer however is them not making easy to build SC minis of units for the starter box and then release a stand-alone version a bit later. With SC looking so similar there's really no benefit to that and those resources could be a totally new kit for someone else and literally every single other force needs it more than SCE. But I guess I'm delusional there. yeah i'd much rather see multipart stormcast to begin with... it's still weird to me that Sequitors are ETB for Soul Wars but then went completely multipart, yet Thunderstrike stuck with ETB 18 minutes ago, Ferban said: The launch box is a limited item only, so it makes sense that it would be more marketed to existing players than the "starter" sets would be. that's my thought process yeah; why not go a little further out for the Launch Box when the smaller starter sets are specifically for new people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 i dunno, launch boxes of AoS don't sell so crazy fast as the 40k ones. I mean, my shop still has like 3 launch boxes of FEC. It's completely plausible 4th ed lasts for a month if it doesn't update the ninja monkeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 10 minutes ago, Garrac said: i dunno, launch boxes of AoS don't sell so crazy fast as the 40k ones. I mean, my shop still has like 3 launch boxes of FEC. It's completely plausible 4th ed lasts for a month if it doesn't update the ninja monkeys. FEC army set is still available on their main site. But it will be probably sell out the moment the official release is announced as it is cheaper to buy the army set. In the past I only bought the StD and CoS army sets. Mainly because I really wanted the artefact/spell cards.. but I don't remember if they sold out faster or not than the FEC army set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 20 minutes ago, Tonhel said: FEC army set is still available on their main site. But it will be probably sell out the moment the official release is announced as it is cheaper to buy the army set. In the past I only bought the StD and CoS army sets. Mainly because I really wanted the artefact/spell cards.. but I don't remember if they sold out faster or not than the FEC army set. The CoS one has been around in the shops I usually check for quite a few. I even saw one (at launch price) recently on the second-hand site I normally sell my leftovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 hours ago, Garrac said: i dunno, launch boxes of AoS don't sell so crazy fast as the 40k ones. I mean, my shop still has like 3 launch boxes of FEC. It's completely plausible 4th ed lasts for a month if it doesn't update the ninja monkeys. Nothing aos sell as fast as 40k. 40k and space marines specifically are gws golden egg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthaunt Noob Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I'm curious to hear what others speculate. Where do you think the price point will land for Krethusa. Will she be priced like some of the larger narrative releases (think Belthanos, Ionus, Kroak, etc.) or more like a midsized character (Pontifex Zenestra, Warsong Revenant, Lauka Vai)? Seems like there's not much of a midpoint in between those two groupings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 So how often are they supposed to release battle scrolls again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 18 minutes ago, The Red King said: So how often are they supposed to release battle scrolls again? Quarterly so any thursday now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, The Red King said: So how often are they supposed to release battle scrolls again? The exact amount of time it takes for us to get frustrated by its absence. 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 11 minutes ago, Mutton said: The exact amount of time it takes for us to get frustrated by its absence. It came out last week and I missed it? Now I'm really mad! Lol 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 hours ago, Nighthaunt Noob said: I'm curious to hear what others speculate. Where do you think the price point will land for Krethusa. Will she be priced like some of the larger narrative releases (think Belthanos, Ionus, Kroak, etc.) or more like a midsized character (Pontifex Zenestra, Warsong Revenant, Lauka Vai)? Seems like there's not much of a midpoint in between those two groupings. I'm guessing expensive. She'll have the "cool wings tax" that Gobsprat and Thahlhia have i.e. about £20 more than you expect. Cool wings sell 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 5 hours ago, flying_dutchman said: Nothing aos sell as fast as 40k. 40k and space marines specifically are gws golden egg I can asure you, if they do a new ninja rats box all the damn skaven players of the world will make it last less than a Raven Guard box. Edited January 24 by Garrac 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 32 minutes ago, Garrac said: I can asure you, if they do a new ninja rats box all the damn skaven players of the world will make it last less than a Raven Guard box. To be fair, there are only three Raven Guard players in the world, and they do try their hardest 😄 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) A bit late, but RE: Savage Orcs topic - they are not 0-1 (that's for Black Orcs as a Core if you have Black Orc Boss), they are an upgrade to a regular Orc Mobz. You can replace the armour with Warpaint and Frenzy rules. They simply stopped existing as separate units, but they are still in the game. Edited January 24 by michu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luperci Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 hours ago, Nighthaunt Noob said: I'm curious to hear what others speculate. Where do you think the price point will land for Krethusa. Will she be priced like some of the larger narrative releases (think Belthanos, Ionus, Kroak, etc.) or more like a midsized character (Pontifex Zenestra, Warsong Revenant, Lauka Vai)? Seems like there's not much of a midpoint in between those two groupings. No way she's £80 like Ionus, I'd guess no more than £40, maybe £37.50 same as the warsong revenant 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 1 minute ago, Luperci said: No way she's £80 like Ionus, I'd guess no more than £40, maybe £37.50 same as the warsong revenant If she is priced that "low" im buying her as a painting project for sure. Edited January 24 by Gitzdee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucentia Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 It looks like Krethusa is on a 50-60mm base to my eye, so, yeah, she's not an enormous centerpiece monster, more of a Sigvald or Warsong Rev, and I'd expect her to be priced similarly. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luperci Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 8 minutes ago, Gitzdee said: If she is priced that "low" im buying her as a painting project for sure. She's just regular human sized on a scenic base with wings so surely she won't be that much right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, Luperci said: She's just regular human sized on a scenic base with wings so surely she won't be that much right Wings! Mark my words, she'll be £50+ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 50 minutes ago, michu said: A bit late, but RE: Savage Orcs topic - they are not 0-1 (that's for Black Orcs as a Core if you have Black Orc Boss), they are an upgrade to a regular Orc Mobz. You can replace the armour with Warpaint and Frenzy rules. They simply stopped existing as separate units, but they are still in the game. They stopped existing as a race : you can not find savage orc name , artwork or picture in the armybook. In the list of TOW O&G release/packaging are missing : Spoiler Orc Bosses Orc Boyz Mob Orc Boyz and Arrer Boyz Mob Orc Boar Boyz Mob Orc Boar Chariots Black Orc Boyz Mob Goblin Mob Night Goblin Mob Goblin Wolf Rider Mob Ors and gobs command sets Troll hag Bonegrinder Giant Orc Warboss on wyvern Orc and Goblin Giant Goblin Bosses Goblin Wolf Rider Bosses Goblin Bolt Throwa Goblin Doom Diver Catapult Goblin Wolf Chariot Orc Shaman Orc Shamans Orc Big ‘Uns Orc Big ‘Uns Command Snotling Swarms Snotling Pump Wagon Common Trolls Classic Ogres That's why I think Bonesplitterz will stay firmly in AoS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 hours ago, Nighthaunt Noob said: I'm curious to hear what others speculate. Where do you think the price point will land for Krethusa. Will she be priced like some of the larger narrative releases (think Belthanos, Ionus, Kroak, etc.) or more like a midsized character (Pontifex Zenestra, Warsong Revenant, Lauka Vai)? Seems like there's not much of a midpoint in between those two groupings. Imo she would be around Zenestra's points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 16 minutes ago, cyrus said: They stopped existing as a race : you can not find savage orc name , artwork or picture in the armybook. In the list of TOW O&G release/packaging are missing : Hide contents Orc Bosses Orc Boyz Mob Orc Boyz and Arrer Boyz Mob Orc Boar Boyz Mob Orc Boar Chariots Black Orc Boyz Mob Goblin Mob Night Goblin Mob Goblin Wolf Rider Mob Ors and gobs command sets Troll hag Bonegrinder Giant Orc Warboss on wyvern Orc and Goblin Giant Goblin Bosses Goblin Wolf Rider Bosses Goblin Bolt Throwa Goblin Doom Diver Catapult Goblin Wolf Chariot Orc Shaman Orc Shamans Orc Big ‘Uns Orc Big ‘Uns Command Snotling Swarms Snotling Pump Wagon Common Trolls Classic Ogres That's why I think Bonesplitterz will stay firmly in AoS I think it's one of those situations where the TOW creators have snuck them in without officially allowing them. You can't take Savage Orcs, but you can take Orcs who wear no armor and get Warpaint and Frenzy. If you happen to use Bonesplitterz models to represent those Orcs... well that's between you and Gork and Mork I guess. It's the same as the base size for the Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount: there are two options, one if which makes it much easier to base the new plastic AoS kit. Obviously that's not a Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount fur TOW, it's a Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount fur AoS, but I guess we can't stop you using it as the former 😄 It's actually kinda great, because that Chaos Lord looks amazing, but it's kinda underwhelming in AoS. Now I can use him as (the Chaos) God(s) intended. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 18 minutes ago, cyrus said: They stopped existing as a race : you can not find savage orc name , artwork or picture in the armybook. In the list of TOW O&G release/packaging are missing : Reveal hidden contents Orc Bosses Orc Boyz Mob Orc Boyz and Arrer Boyz Mob Orc Boar Boyz Mob Orc Boar Chariots Black Orc Boyz Mob Goblin Mob Night Goblin Mob Goblin Wolf Rider Mob Ors and gobs command sets Troll hag Bonegrinder Giant Orc Warboss on wyvern Orc and Goblin Giant Goblin Bosses Goblin Wolf Rider Bosses Goblin Bolt Throwa Goblin Doom Diver Catapult Goblin Wolf Chariot Orc Shaman Orc Shamans Orc Big ‘Uns Orc Big ‘Uns Command Snotling Swarms Snotling Pump Wagon Common Trolls Classic Ogres That's why I think Bonesplitterz will stay firmly in AoS We have no idea. It also depends what will be in the Arcane Journal for O&G. I also hope that with the initial succes/hype of TOW that they will re-evalute their long term plans with TOW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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