Fulkes Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, michu said: TBH if knight orders as separate faction are going to return they will not be like world-that-was Bretonnians either way. Yup. It'd just be something new using Bret models. At least Tomb Kings being brought back could be chalked up to Nagash doing it, but Brets have no feasible way of being added into the game like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I don't believe that any old miniatures will return, even if GW would decide to bring back knights and mummies it would be new scultps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulkes Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, michu said: I don't believe that any old miniatures will return, even if GW would decide to bring back knights and mummies it would be new scultps. Anything in plastic still has a chance of making a return since the models are steel, but any metal/finecast models are likely gone forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 But why bring back old when you can make new? GW should make new better miniatures rather than rerelease old ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulkes Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, michu said: But why bring back old when you can make new? GW should make new better miniatures rather than rerelease old ones. Lower cost and helps clear back inventory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 But imagine what could GW do with their technology now. More dynamic sculpts showing knights in full charge and not like they are on parade.And many Bretonnia sculpts were metal and resin. GW can bring back old sculpts (like warfire thrower) if it's only a small part of release. It's not good idea to say "hey, we have new faction for you - it's all old sculpts." Even BT + Endless Spells is better startegy than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulkes Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, michu said: But imagine what could GW do with their technology now. More dynamic sculpts showing knights in full charge and not like they are on parade.And many Bretonnia sculpts were metal and resin. GW can bring back old sculpts (like warfire thrower) if it's only a small part of release. It's not good idea to say "hey, we have new faction for you - it's all old sculpts." Even BT + Endless Spells is better startegy than that. Just because GW -can- doesn't mean GW -will-. They work years in advance on their projects. They can cut the lead time on a Bret like army in less than half if they use the old models and then add to the line later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 That's not a good idea. What player would be happy that new release consists only of old models? You think that those "salty Bret players" would be happy? No, they're rather going to say "So GW finally surrender and they don't even give us something new for Brets? Dissapointed as always". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulkes Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, michu said: That's not a good idea. What player would be happy that new release consists only of old models? You think that those "salty Bret players" would be happy? No, they're rather going to say "So GW finally surrender and they don't even give us something new for Brets? Dissapointed as always". I think you're forgetting we're talking about if GW was going to bring Brets back in some form or another. Starting with the existing line would bring a lot of Bret armies back into the game. The loud vocal minority who is always salty will always be salty. Nothing can make them happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Fulkes said: I think you're forgetting we're talking about if GW was going to bring Brets back in some form or another. Starting with the existing line would bring a lot of Bret armies back into the game. The loud vocal minority who is always salty will always be salty. Nothing can make them happy. 1 why would GW bring back the existing Bret line outside of Made To Order? they have been clearly trying to make a push to retire metal and finecast models in their ranges and replace it newer plastic one. they also don't sell old model in retail store to begin with. Edited May 21, 2019 by novakai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulkes Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 minute ago, novakai said: why would GW bring back the existing Bret line outside of Made To Order? they have been clearly trying to make a push to retire metal and finecast models in their ranges and replace it newer plastic one. they also don't sell old model in retail store to begin with. I never said they'd bring back metal and finecast (I said the exact opposite actually), but the Brets had plastic models that could come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Fulkes said: I never said they'd bring back metal and finecast (I said the exact opposite actually), but the Brets had plastic models that could come back. Yeah but those plastic models where build for slotted square bases (archers and knights of the realm) they are both really dated and not up to standard anymore either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulkes Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Just now, novakai said: Yeah but those plastic models where build for slotted square bases (archers and knights of the realm) they are both really dated and not up to standard anymore either. I feel like I'm being set up to argue for something that they could do as instead being something I think they will do. I don't see something resembling Brets coming out unless they carry some of the old models into the new line. If they don't then the army won't "feel" like Brets no matter how you slice it. So either we get something using the old Brets mixed with something new, or they're not coming back at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svnvaldez Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 What a silly discussion everyone knows Brets are alive and well. All of their souls are now in Stormcast Liberator bodies. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetengine Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 From a buisness perspective bringing Tomb Kings back using the 8th ed plastics is a smart idea. Much smarter then making all new models. Skaven literally have 1 new model yet sell like hotcakes. If GW are unsure about Tomb Kings then throwing out a Battletome, Endless Spells and Terrain with reboxed kits is easier then making new ones and if they dont sell well ? Then next edition they get absorbed by LON. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feraxil Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, svnvaldez said: What a silly discussion everyone knows Brets are alive and well. All of their souls are now in Stormcast Liberator bodies. Where else would he find so many hero's souls? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EccentricCircle Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 Thats a great conversion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 On 5/17/2019 at 4:19 PM, Overread said: And some of us are still waiting on the next Game of Thrones book We might not be patient but we are darned dogged in hanging on Than don’t worry my friend I have the perfect thing for you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakin Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 10 hours ago, Jetengine said: From a buisness perspective bringing Tomb Kings back using the 8th ed plastics is a smart idea. Much smarter then making all new models. Skaven literally have 1 new model yet sell like hotcakes. If GW are unsure about Tomb Kings then throwing out a Battletome, Endless Spells and Terrain with reboxed kits is easier then making new ones and if they dont sell well ? Then next edition they get absorbed by LON. Pretty much this. The up-front cost would be negligible compared to producing a whole new range, and most of the plastic (and Ushabti) holds up pretty well compared to BoC, FEC, LoN, Seraphon, etc. The potential for sand/desert-based endless spells is high, with a Casket of Souls or pyramid for the terrain piece and some kind of sandstorm tornado, quicksand (etc.) for endless spells. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetengine Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Just with the plastics.... Tomb Guard w/Halberds Tomb Guard with Sword Sepulchral Stalkers Necropolis Knights Tomb King on Foot (from the Sphinx Kit) War Sphinx Necrosphinx Thats 7 units from 3 kits. You could make more by doing what the FEC did and make unit Champions heroes. In which case you could get up to 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekay Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 You missed a Royal Warsphinx as a separate leader option ; ) Also, Necrosphinx has two distinct head [mask and skull] and tail options - if we're *really* stretching it they could also be made into two units. And it'd STILL be less units than we get from the zombie dragon kit! Not to mention Stonehorn/Thundertusk that basically provides 2/3 scrolls for its faction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakin Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, dekay said: You missed a Royal Warsphinx as a separate leader option ; ) Also, Necrosphinx has two distinct head [mask and skull] and tail options - if we're *really* stretching it they could also be made into two units. And it'd STILL be less units than we get from the zombie dragon kit! Not to mention Stonehorn/Thundertusk that basically provides 2/3 scrolls for its faction. Stonehorn kit is six warscrolls...: Frostlord on Thundertusk Frostlord on Stonehorn Huskard on Thundertusk Huskard on Stonehorn Thundertusk Beastriders Stonehorn Beastriders Edited May 22, 2019 by Kyriakin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekay Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Yeah, 6 out of 10 beastclaw warscrolls So getting as many as possible out of sphinx kit isnt all that unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakin Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Jetengine said: Just with the plastics.... Tomb Guard w/Halberds Tomb Guard with Sword Sepulchral Stalkers Necropolis Knights Tomb King on Foot (from the Sphinx Kit) War Sphinx Necrosphinx Thats 7 units from 3 kits. You could make more by doing what the FEC did and make unit Champions heroes. In which case you could get up to 10. From a game play perspective, I'd love to keep the Carrion somehow (terribad models though). Conversely, a TK army with no chariots feels a bit off, visually. That said, if GW offered this, I'd still take it in a heartbeat. Edited May 22, 2019 by Kyriakin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakin Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 22 hours ago, dekay said: Yeah, 6 out of 10 beastclaw warscrolls So getting as many as possible out of sphinx kit isnt all that unusual. Ah, you meant "two-thirds". I thought you meant "two or three"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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