Tizianolol Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 We ll see, anyway eshin seems fun! Deathmaster warscroll is no bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tizianolol said: We ll see, anyway eshin seems fun! Deathmaster warscroll is no bad! Just his current points aren’t great😂 welp here hoping for a decrease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riff_Raff_Rascal Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 The run and charge rules are fun stuff, but I'm fixated on the pile-in rule. What dastardly things will GW allow us to do now? Or at least not FAQ? My thought experiment consists of step1) activate unit, pile in, Step 2) pile in all other engaged models, step 3) activate other units in combat, pile-in again. I read this as a 6" pile-in for swarming around effectively. If you're clever you'll be able to draw units into combat that didn't want to be. Combine this with any strike-first abilities (looking at you eshin), and you might get away with shenanigans. What do ya'll think? Am I crazy? Or so sane I just blew your mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocKeule Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 I don't think it can work that way (or at least rarely) because you still can't pile a model further away from the closes enemy. I would guess the main goal here would be to shield your important units from combats they don't want and stopping your opponent from piling into them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 5 hours ago, DocKeule said: I don't think it can work that way (or at least rarely) because you still can't pile a model further away from the closes enemy. I would guess the main goal here would be to shield your important units from combats they don't want and stopping your opponent from piling into them. Well I mean if deathfrenzy is going to be still a thing. this could actually get your models into range much more easily for a last dying fight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riff_Raff_Rascal Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 12 hours ago, DocKeule said: I don't think it can work that way (or at least rarely) because you still can't pile a model further away from the closes enemy. This is true. Classically this is used to pile-around/toward a screen protecting a shooting unit or weak melee hero thats approx. 4 in away from the screen. When you wrap around, your 1 inch base will tag the other unit 3" away. This is true even if your base to base the entire time with the screen. I just think it'll be harder to screen us out altogether. @Skreech Verminking Death frenzy may be the way to go especially with stormvermin at 1" reach now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rors Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 So if you took triple heros from two different clans, like master clan and molder, would you get both layers of effects from both clans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riff_Raff_Rascal Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 @Rors That was the stated intention in the article. Im concerned that this a false list idea though because if the Deathmaster is any indication, all of our hero points are going up. This is in line with every 3.0 book so far. I have no doubt they'll get upgraded, but I don't believe we'll have cheap enough heroes to make that style of list playable. We'll see though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1tchhunter Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just a quick question regarding fur I know stormvermin have black, grey seers white, clan rats brown. But do the eshin and pestilence rats have a specific fur colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riff_Raff_Rascal Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 @W1tchhunterHobby bravely first off. The rule of cool is king. That said pestilens are often depicted with no fur because disease has stripped it off, so pinks and orange flesh tones. Eshin arent really set, they used to have lots of dark fur, black mostly, but the new aethermaze eshin are more pale because of living in darkness. I suggest picking your cloth color first because it has more volume then pick a fur color that complements it. Ive tried black fur on black robes for ninjas and its just boring. So learn from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1tchhunter Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 No mention of the moulder and eshin models funnily enough https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/06/this-stunning-skaven-horde-is-worth-its-weight-in-warpstone-tokens/ Also finished my first 10 3D printed Stormvermin. Very pleased with them 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1tchhunter Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Quick rules question. Can the new Deathmaster lob his throwing stars whilst he's hidden in the clanrat/stormvermin unit? And would you be able to Unleash hell it someone charged that unit? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, W1tchhunter said: Quick rules question. Can the new Deathmaster lob his throwing stars whilst he's hidden in the clanrat/stormvermin unit? And would you be able to Unleash hell it someone charged that unit? Cheers No, since he is officially not on the battlefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocKeule Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 New book goes into pre-order next saturday. The new Vanguard box looks OK but a Skryre hero would have made much more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 minute ago, DocKeule said: New book goes into pre-order next saturday. The new Vanguard box looks OK but a Skryre hero would have made much more sense. I thought so, yes-yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umjammerlama Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 New article for the up and coming battletome. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/13/gang-up-on-your-enemies-in-a-furry-tide-with-battletome-skaven/ very interesting about the increasing in melee weapon range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonic Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Interestingly this sort of upends the traditional wisdom of having the rusty spears be large units. They will benefit less from strength in numbers but will also keep their 3" longer in small units, so probably are suited to 20's, whereas rusty blades have no drawbacks in large units until they drop below 20 strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1tchhunter Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, Colonic said: Interestingly this sort of upends the traditional wisdom of having the rusty spears be large units. They will benefit less from strength in numbers but will also keep their 3" longer in small units, so probably are suited to 20's, whereas rusty blades have no drawbacks in large units until they drop below 20 strong. Yeah I just finished building my first 20 clanrats with spears. Regret the decision now haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laststand Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Clan rats are not on the board to fight so an extra 1" is fairly meaningless to a unit you should not expect to do any damage. It's bit handier for plague monks but it is a weak replacement for +1 to hit and +1 to wound for larger units. Can't see any incentive in bringing any non elite units in more than min size so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirbrushThreepwood Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 37 minutes ago, W1tchhunter said: Yeah I just finished building my first 20 clanrats with spears. Regret the decision now haha Why? I think a unit of 20 with spears is pretty good with its 3" range, better than x20 with blades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Laststand said: Clan rats are not on the board to fight so an extra 1" is fairly meaningless to a unit you should not expect to do any damage. It's bit handier for plague monks but it is a weak replacement for +1 to hit and +1 to wound for larger units. Can't see any incentive in bringing any non elite units in more than min size so far. Clanrats in units of 60 with curse are the new elites😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1tchhunter Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, AirbrushThreepwood said: Why? I think a unit of 20 with spears is pretty good with its 3" range, better than x20 with blades. Well 20 blades will be 3 inches also and still 2" inches below 20 that and at that point you're getting all of them in anyway due to 25mm bases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicsheep Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, Laststand said: but it is a weak replacement for +1 to hit and +1 to wound for larger units. Strength in Numbers was the battleshock buff (+1 to bravery) are you thinking of Overwhelming Mass (+1 hit / wound) ? Hopefully this stays the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirbrushThreepwood Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, W1tchhunter said: Well 20 blades will be 3 inches also and still 2" inches below 20 that and at that point you're getting all of them in anyway due to 25mm bases. Oh i see, good point. I'm glad I built my first 80 with blades then, although 2 weeks ago I thought maybe it might have been a mistake. Maybe you can snap the arms off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1tchhunter Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, AirbrushThreepwood said: Oh i see, good point. I'm glad I built my first 80 with blades then, although 2 weeks ago I thought maybe it might have been a mistake. Maybe you can snap the arms off? Probably could but tbf my group is mega chill, I'll just say they are long blades 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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