Forge World - What would you like to see for AoS?

[bonzai]

I think FW is being stretched thin by having specialist games being dumped on them. They have a ton of brands to worry about now instead of just 2. 30k is their bread winner and has a dedicated team, so they have been keeping up with it, but everything else has been reduced to a trickle. Lord of the rings here, blood bowl there, Titanica on the horizon, etc...

That being said I do have a long wish list. Here are my top 10.

1. Rerelease some of the discontinued models like they did with the Rogue Idol. They were cancelled when fantasy was dying. Now with AoS there is renewed interest. I really want an incarnate elemental of beasts, but havent found a second hand one in the 2 years I have been looking. While they are at it, I'd look hard at the key words and possibly do some adjusting. Things like adding the gut buster keyword to the dread maw, or fellwater to the merwyrm. This way they belong to actual factions and can be allied.

2. More stuff for clan Moulder.  They already have some interesting stuff for them, and it offers a lot of crazy potential for them to have fun with. In particular I would love to see a vermin lord for them. I doubt GW will get around to it, as the rest are a single combi kit.

3. Some fantasy Squiggoths. I would love to see some Bone splitters riding on a giant squiggoths with net and harpoon launchers. Yeah I know, they are technically monsters, but these are domesticated. Even if it's just green skins instead it would be fine.

4. Some kind of large skeletal monster for death rattle. A gargant, dragon, wurm, something that will give them some punch.

5. Flesh out the Fellwater allegiance so we can have a troggoth army with troll hags, regular Troggoths, maybe a merwyrm, and something else.

6. Faction specific Imperial Armor style books with stories and campaigns. Starting with their forge world only armies, then branching out.

7. Hate to say it, but if they do the above, they should probably create their own Storm Cast storm host with unique characters, and iconography conversion kits alla red scorpions to be their poster boys.

8. A large flying behemouth for Seraphon. Its the only thing that the faction is really missing (other than a skink combination battalion). A big terradactyle or something with skinks riding it.

9. The Fimir have a lot of potential as a FW only faction, and could use some fleshing out.

10. God beasts for apocalypse style scenarios. The huge pics of a khorne dragon I saw are a great start for this. 

[Lucio]

On 01/02/2018 at 11:58 AM, Skarloc said:

Agreed..

But why not under a single brand and under a single web store? Not to mention the fact that FW products are not available in GW stores..

Over the past months, I ordered a few FW products, in fact only Blood Bowl miniatures: the 2 referees, the Skaven expansion pack, the Dwarf hero, ..

But on those 3 occasions, the shipment cost to Belgium was almost half the price of the miniature.s. Whereas they could have been included in other orders I placed on the GW web store as shipped from the same location, i.e. GW's Lenton factory.

"One web store to buy them all, one web store to find them, one web store to purchase them all and in one shipment to send them all"

 

The split is deliberate and for practical reasons

If the split wasn't there, then the release cycles would have to be sychronised, as it'd make no sense for a company to release off theme options.

The GW stores, which primarily exisit to attract and support new players, would now be having to spend much more time dealing with people who bought more complex resin kits. This'd harm their primary function and force them away from the successful one man store approach.

Postage at FW is higher for a reason, a percentage of items break or are mismoulded and to offer top notch customer service whereby they'll often send out a whole replacement model costs more money. Therefore the P&P includes a measure of the value of the contents, and quite possibly insurance that FW can claim if required.

Finally, the biggest reason for the split? The brand was spun off at the very start so they could be marketed to a different audience, the veteran gamer who wanted to spend £450 on a metal Thunderhawk model

[Xasz]

I'd prefer it, if FW wouldn't meddle with AoS at all.

• FW rules have always been used to sell their products, either by raising the power level significantly or not fixing broken interactions (FW rules are only updated under certain planar constellations)
• the prices are a joke, especially considering the quality because
• more often than not, you spend more time fixing their resin than painting the models

[GeneralZero]

i'd like FW to give GW full rights on the mourngull so that this fanstastic yet must-have-for-death-malignant piece will be a plastic kit with options in official GW shop

[Kramer]

Cog fortresses would be amazing! I think Forgeworld really shines when they go way over the top. Although I love them for it, it still feels weird they so whole heartily embraced chaos dwarfs to create and maintain a whole line for them. But if it profitable for them, maybe a small range of Brettonia ( a unit of knights and a unit of pegasi, some heroes and upgrade kits to change empire units to militia) or Tomb Kings. 

[bsharitt]

5 hours ago, Xasz said:

I'd prefer it, if FW wouldn't meddle with AoS at all.

• FW rules have always been used to sell their products, either by raising the power level significantly or not fixing broken interactions (FW rules are only updated under certain planar constellations)

That's kind of why I'd prefer they stick to entire specialist armies or truly ridiculous scale models, that way they're easier to cordon off if they're an issue. The problem is when you have situations like the Mourngul with Nighthaunt, and to a lesser degree the colossal squig and squig gobba for Moonclan grots, where FW models fill significant and almost necessary parts of certain armies.

[GeneralZero]

26 minutes ago, bsharitt said:

The problem is when you have situations like the Mourngul with Nighthaunt, and to a lesser degree the colossal squig and squig gobba for Moonclan grots, where FW models fill significant and almost necessary parts of certain armies.

 

4 hours ago, GeneralZero said:

'd like FW to give GW full rights on the mourngull so that this fanstastic yet must-have-for-death-malignant piece will be a plastic kit with options in official GW shop

that exactly what I asked for.

+1

 

[Clan's Cynic]

Dwarf and Elven Stormcast. As much as I dislike Stormcast in general, there's no way they're not going to produce them, so it may as well be for more unique variants beyond yet more humans. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Clan's Cynic said:

Dwarf and Elven Stormcast. As much as I dislike Stormcast in general, there's no way they're not going to produce them, so it may as well be for more unique variants beyond yet more humans. 

Stormcast are essentially the avatars of Sigmar, who is the god of mankind - not aelvenkind or duardinkind, they have their own gods. Asking for aelven or duardin Stormcast is like asking for Fyreslayers imbued with the power of Khaine.

 

Female Stormcast on the other hand should be a thing, and should have been there from the very start. I'd actually prefer that Forge World didn't create a line of female Stormcast since that would single them out as something niche and 'other', when they should have equal status with the golden boys in terms of their presence in the standard model range.

[S133arcanite]

In the Tzeentch battletome it mentions a "totemshriek" and a "prophet-horn"

 

I would LOVE to see them

[RuneBrush]

And I'm back!  Was away at the HH/Necro Weekender so didn't get back until Monday evening (and took the day off doing anything yesterday).

One think that I did think could be potentially interesting to AoS is that the Heresy black book's are starting to get to the point of bringing Daemon's into the Heresy (dubbed the Ruinstorm).  Daemons in the 31st millennium aren't going to be the same as the ones we've grown to know and love - they're a brand new threat that have yet to be codified, plus human emotion may make them change form.

So, to cut a potentially long story a little shorter, it would appear that we'll get some new and unique daemons coming out in the next year or so

[Clan's Cynic]

On 06/02/2018 at 5:19 PM, Jamie the Jasper said:

Stormcast are essentially the avatars of Sigmar, who is the god of mankind - not aelvenkind or duardinkind, they have their own gods. Asking for aelven or duardin Stormcast is like asking for Fyreslayers imbued with the power of Khaine.

 

Female Stormcast on the other hand should be a thing, and should have been there from the very start. I'd actually prefer that Forge World didn't create a line of female Stormcast since that would single them out as something niche and 'other', when they should have equal status with the golden boys in terms of their presence in the standard model range.

Pretty sure they stated there were Dwarfen and Elven Stormcast the same time they said some were women. 

Hell, Grungni is the one who actually made the Stormcast.

[bsharitt]

12 hours ago, RuneBrush said:

So, to cut a potentially long story a little shorter, it would appear that we'll get some new and unique daemons coming out in the next year or so

I know there are a couple of HH daemon charachters out there, do those have AoS rules(I'm pretty sure they have 40k rules). I wonder of these new models will have AoS rules or we'll be just counting as.

[bonzai]

On 2/6/2018 at 1:37 AM, Xasz said:

I'd prefer it, if FW wouldn't meddle with AoS at all.

• FW rules have always been used to sell their products, either by raising the power level significantly or not fixing broken interactions (FW rules are only updated under certain planar constellations)
• the prices are a joke, especially considering the quality because
• more often than not, you spend more time fixing their resin than painting the models

Nothing GW its self isnt guilty of, if not worse. FW resin is far better than fine cast, gw prices are just as high ($99 U.S. for 5 fine cast blood knights?), and until they started bringing in play testers from the community gw put out rules that were just as bad or worse.

I never understood the irrational hate forge world gets some times, as GW is just as bad. Forge World for the most part puts out novelty items that are either fluffy or apocalypse level. Sure in 40k they put out malific lords and they were abused. GW put out brimstones, which were just as broken. To me its a wash.

[RuneBrush]

11 hours ago, bsharitt said:

I know there are a couple of HH daemon charachters out there, do those have AoS rules(I'm pretty sure they have 40k rules). I wonder of these new models will have AoS rules or we'll be just counting as.

It's possible they may get rules at some point once the new AoS team gets going.  We're seeing a lot of cross over between GW 40k and AoS currently, so there's a chance we might see the same happen for some of the FW models.  No reason this couldn't be fed back to FW either as a suggestion

[MacDuff]

I'd love to see FW move into more plastics if they can. For example, I'd buy a chaos dwarf army - the war machines are awesome, and their armor is cool now that the top hats are gone. But because of both cost and resin health hazards I won't go there in resin.

[Sactownbri]

I would be real interested in what FW could do with an Overlords Skyvessel or one of the mentioned sky monsters. I get giddy thinking about it ?.

[Shearl]

No question, we need our Balefiend.

[Kirjava13]

3 hours ago, MacDuff said:

[chaos dwarf] armor is cool now that the top hats are gone.

This is heresy of the highest order and cannot be tolerated, I will be campaigning for Ben to ban you sir.