Oreaper84
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Yeah but why?...Does it really break the game that much? Sure you give a unit -1 to hit in combat, tons of things do that now anyway. Sure you have a D6 rez, other things do that too. and please dont say that its bc they are multi wound... you can do it to flamers, exalted, screamers, flame chariots, too. They simply decided arbitrarily that Tzaangors needed the nerf. Leets also remember the heavy price tag in all the units it effects 180/200 respectively.
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That's a very definitive statement....care to elaborate or provide credibility to your view?
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Does anyone else feel like GW editing went through last minute and red pen editied some things out of the book? Specifically the deamon keyword from disk units. I got a similar feel from the new KO book....like things were added /removed last minute and it went to print with some of the core concepts turned on their head. Could be a bit unfounded, but i feel like both the DoT and KO battletomes were right and ready and they both received a last minute knee-****** edit to nerf them a bit.
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unless its on the table....or you play the GHB rules to add one......you dont get the benefit. I think i speak for all when i say it is the most underwhelming CA ever to be printed to a page.
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Sorry for the resurrect of the thread...but is this model matched play legal?
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So because its before the sacrifice...the basic strat is just yolo all the CP every time and then see what you can summon after sacrifice? so the breakdown would be something like (on average) assuming every 3rd CP spent procs the broach: turn 1 - 1 PC for turn / 4 from CP (2 CP start + turn CP + Broche proc) / 2 from sacrifice = 7 for turn/total Turn 2 - 1 PC for turn / 1 from CP / 2 from sacrifice = 4 for turn / 11 total Turn 3 - 1 PC for turn / 2 from CP (Broche proc) / 2 from sacrifice = 5 from turn / 16 total turn 4 - 1PC for turn / 1 from CP / 2 from sacrifice = 4 from turn / 20 total so this looks like at least something decent every turn to summon...and a big thing every other
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Is that considering Aetherquartz Broche as well?
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So i was thinking about a summoning list...in Allherd, but it was pointed out to me that the Allherd CA is at the START of the hero phase, and the sacrifice ritual is during the hero phase, and thus AFTER you have to spend for extra points. Is this right?....if so it seems silly to have that CA before you find out how many free summon points you get....
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So, Im trying to make good ole Brayherd work....i really like the flexability of the ambush and the hard hitting-ness up bestigor, but im finding them a bit underwhelming. Is it just me or do the characters in the book seem meh in general. Sure a DMG 3 beastlord seems legit....but he dies to a stiff breeze. Are we just not that reliant on characters? Also are the monsters just a giant trap? I want sooooo badly for them to be good...
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So since Beastgrave preorders on the 21st, will they not do the Warclans tome on the same weekend?....Does this mean we wont preorder till the end of the month!!!!!! Do they realize what temperament of players they are dealing with? Do they think we have that kind of patience??!?!? Just tell us when!!!
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so dumb question....which may have been asked before but i cant find the answer, can a spell be "cast" even if there is no one in range? Based on wording it seems like ranges and such are checked after a spell is successfully cast, so Im wondering if we can still willy nilly cast spells for fate points. I've been back and forth on this with friends, so if possible please let me know a reference because there seems logical arguments on both sides.
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Well Ladz....with the Iron Hands on Pre-Order this weekend....prob a no go for the Warclans Pre-Order this weekend :(
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i dont think you run the Hag as a damage dealer, she is support, a tarpit and absolute beast-mode in the scenarios where you need heroes. I agree that rockguts are much better offensively, but i think they serve very different rolls. The above mentioned list will have a lot of difficulty in places of power, duality, and potentially the orb.
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i am the saddest panda for no Orruk news. I assumed we'd get a terrain piece preview at least. Still the slightest glimmer of hope but i'm mostly back to reality now.
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this reminds me of the Babe..
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I saw a couple pics a long while ago with the old models of the squigs bouncing of of various enemy's. It actually was they way the poster differentiated units, one off of dwarves one off of stormcast...seemed like a really cool idea
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Why have i never seen this before?!??!
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weird question came up the other day....regarding rerolls So the TZ shammy can reroll one or both dice when he is using the elixir, how does this interact with the khirne bloodsecrator forcing a reroll of sucessfull casting? Is the reroll wasted?...can it be used after the secrator-forced reroll? The thoughts were that you cant reroll a dice more than once so maybe you can pick the beast reroll 1st and then the secrator ability has no effect? Looking to the wiser bestial wisdom here....
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The changehost counters DoK and Fireslayers because of their lack of fly. If you screen your characters against heartrenders then its quite easy to zone the board and feed them horrors and spell snipe the important characters. Plus the Gaunt Summoners has one of the absolute best anti horde tech around. Couple these with the fact that neither is likely to stop most of our key spells....its only gaps/mistakes that should really spell doom in these matchups.
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Carrion empire didn't have points........Guardian with mortality glass didn't have points, everyone assumed it was the same as its counterpart. Also the Gaunt Summoner with familiars....no point so its gone.....difference these have POINTS and are published post GHB, so yeah i think it is clearly intended for pitched battle/matched play.
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I mean........i see the argument you're making, but seriously dude?......seriously?......They have points written in the same format as everything in the GHB, and it is intended clear as day......Intention is pretty crystal here right?
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How reliant is Tzeentch on CP? I mean i know that the LoC has a baller command ability, but is the strategy of the army dependent on it. To me maybe the destiny dice seems really strong (admittedly I'm new to the faction). The main reason i am asking is because the battalions seem under-powered/over-costed except for the change host, which i've played against and not at all a fan of. It seems like artifacts are a "nice to have" rather than a requirement like some armies....and it all may change with a new book....Just looking for peoples opinions
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It only allows one of the interactions of "after a unit attacks for the 1st time"...still getting 4 activation's in a row (the last one goes twice)...its still a very very strong mechanic and often CP is the limited resource anyway
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With the battalion choice it was 2 things.....reduce drops, and the reroll 1's to wound is straight money on all units in the battalion. I played 2 variants of the Slaanesh lists.....most of them (2 at this tourney) were dbbl keeper lists. One was 4 Exalted chariots...Both variants were very tough match-ups.
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So i went to a 2 day, 5 round event this past weekend....and it was DOMINATED by Slaanesh. Had to play the buggers twice myself. Ended up 4/1 and playing on table 1 round 5...but just couldn't get over on the Invaders list at the top table. My list was as follows: Reapers of Vengence / Ulgu Gore Pilgrims / Charnel Host BT of UF: Mage Eater, Crimson Crown Blood secrator: Skullshard Mantle 2x Slaughter priest Blood Master Deamon Prince: sword of judgement 2x (10) bloodletters (20) bloodletters (5) blood warriors (10) blood reavers karanak 3 x Judgments The list hinged on the 6" pile in and the fight twice from reapers...and did rather well. there ended up a 4 way tie for 2nd and the killpoints were the tiebreaker. I already have some adjustments to the list to make...but it was dishearting when Slaanesh took 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Do we have a answer for the net variety list that they can bring? They seem to outclass us in almost every aspect. (one game i managed 3130 kill points because of all his summoning). Have others had similar exp in this new meta? am i crazy and their is a silver bullet against Slaanesh?
