Oreaper84

so my 1st thought is that....we have a new book coming so who knows what the next month or 2 will bring..... ....that being said for right now...Mid Feb 2019, it isnt the best it could be. Good news is that wuith a couple adds, i think it has legs to be decent. My recommendations are as follows. 1. Add a warshrine....has totem keyword, gets a prayer from the book, adds resiliency to things around it...overall badass 2. max the reaver units....4x30, gives a decent discount and makes em more of a threat....you will almost never need 6 large units, 4 is enough 3. slaughterpriests are one of the best units we got....i understand if you are just using what you got...but if not get 1-3 of em and look into dark feast or gore pilgrim battalions. 4. forget steps 1-3 and go only units of 10 blood revaers and blood tithe it up!!! Wooohoooo! Current state your list CAN hit decent, but will fold like paper. We are in a horde meta right now, and people have tools to deal with large units....most of which are 3x more resilient than ours. We will see what the book brings....but either way best of luck!

yeah every list I make, feels soft without the Pilgrims.... i hope the new book opens other options....maybe a mortal version of murderhost

Fyre slayers have a once per game movement buff and their whole army shoots, IJ have random but at times amazing movement shenanigans in their allegiance ability and Ironfist battalion. Khorne has murder host and a single whipped unit...i think bc we dont have shooting and magic, we need to outclass all but the fastest in either out of sequence movement (like if you can pick 3 units instead of one with the lvl 3 tithe), durability (i dont like this option if im honest), or solid raw speed choices. Maybe a combo of all 3?

I think what is implied is that khorne was/is more reliant on legacy style rules interactions to stay relevant. If they take these interactions away it makes the army inherently softer, or nerfed. It is possible to nerf many armies at once with a rules style migration, but its a nerf. Now we have to wait and see if they revamp the rules to compensate for the changes.

Thank you for the explanation. I see the point you are making in regards to the avoidance of knee ****** from large event results. People on the internet do tend to cry foul or unduly laud accomplishment on lists/army's solely based on large event performance. We now DO have a unique responsibility as GW listens to an extent to what its player base says (i stress the phrase "to an extent"). I do fundamentally disagree with the importance on the results from a statistical analysis perspective. Even as an outlier, an oddball list that performs well can be analyzed based on its match-ups, scenarios, players, etc... Meta's shift like the tides and a view into what performs well in a given meta is actually invaluable data. Furthermore i think relative "maturity" of a meta is a false perspective. Ill grant that the UK scene did springboard from launch of AOS, and most of the sharpers of AOS come from the UK, but time does not translate to maturity in that there is not end state. Thoughts and idea's shift and the surrounding environment adapts to combat new threats. There is no meta that is better or worse, they are just different, and to think that one is superior to the other is discrediting to the players who perform in said meta.

quick question as a weird situation came up with wrathmongers the other day.... So an evocator unit was tagged to attack itself. The question was surronding the celestial lightning arc...The question is, does this proc as the unit has technically attacked? and if so who does it hit?....Thought id ask here 1st before dropping it in the rules chat...

Perhaps I misunderstood your meaning then. Why would the results and lists from one of the largest US AOS events be irrelevant.

wow......um i think Im offended maybe?

Is it just me or does the Axe "endless prayer" look like its cutting through a spell. Maybe this runs around and removes endless spells it touches?....#wishlist

quite likely....also when da bad moon is in the center of the table the whole battlefield gets the bonus......tee hee!!!

confirmed on twitch....ALL FW models get appropriate keyword to be included in allegiance

yeah not too sure how it rotates......but this seems MASSIVE. I cant wait to see the interaction on the battle with smart positioning. Truly this is cunning and brutal...

add in a Troggoth Hag for spice and i think there it is....the monster mash list i have been waiting for. yssssssssssssssss

do we think all this new git and squig updates are they gunna align to the profiles of the underworlds warband....ie, nets just being a model upgrade with a debuff, but no attack profile. And squigs going to the attack profile of 4+,3+,-1, 1dmg? would make sense to align and update now if they are doing it.....what do y'all think?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/12/26/26th-dec-gloomspite-gitz-revealedgw-homepage-post-1/ oh the joy!!!