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Sure but we have a problem. Gw just set a very bad example with those axed units. Before this,people as me were veeeeery wary of get nothing with square bases due to the fear to be removed..so we only got some boxes and not all that we wanted due to this fear. Due to this seems gw have deleted them. Now in the future what gonna happen???????people know that gw gonna delete every kit that dont sell and be old. So it is a bad circle,gw gonna delete old and unprofitable kits,but those old kits wont be bougth by people now due to know that they gonna spend money in kits that gonna be deleted. So those kits wont be profitables due to this move of gw and they gonna be deleted.

Old armys or models who got full revamp with a new tome and didnt got units deleted: Lon(all even nagash is old,only new ghosts werent in fantasy) Skavens Beast of khaos Flesh eater Every daemon army(got some new models but the big % is old) Also many others as silvaneths got many models old of fantasy. Since aos came only one box of goblins was deleted and they got as 10 new box to compensate. So why now elfs,dwarfs and humans cant be negative for be the first armys since aos launched and killed bretonians and tk on get as the 40% or more of our models deleted???

??????ni think you get it very wrong. That means that those unit have been axed,wont be in the new book,and when he said that you can play it as dispossesed or wanderer its true as every other axed models have been,only UNTILL next general handbook where those axed unit gonna disapear and wont be playable at matched play anymore. To sumarise: Those axed unts: Umplayable as citys of sigmar Playable for one year(untill next general handbook) as old alegiances(wanderers,dispossesed etc) After this year they gonna dissapear forever and wont be playable. Great work from gw,i was waiting for a battletome to get white lions who i loved since age of reckoning game,phoenyx,cannons,quarrellers and thunderers(to complete my collection) and so. Now im looking for people(in spain) to sell my army.i guess gw wont see my money again

As the 80% of the top 20 armys have free summon,so numbers dont lie. Btw even skavens have free sumon. But dont matter,gw gonna sell more minis with free sumon due to be extra minis,also they prefer do op free sumon so all fotm players jump to these armys and they can sell more minis. The best examples is lon that went from around 4%(when the sumon had a cost) to the most played army of tye game with the add of free sumon. The topic is about if slanesh free sumon is broken,numbers show us that slanesh is broken and it is the top army(with skaven and fec tied). So it is due to free sumon or other aspect? I think that free sumon is the problem and seems every other player think the same.only this dude who defnd free sumon in every post think otherwise

Slanesh have skyrocket to the god tier,tied with skavens and fec as the broken overpowers armys. And yes as good is the sumon is a big part of this

I have as 1400 points of dispossesed,400 ironweld,600 high elfs,1700 stormcast So when gw told us that we were getting battletomes for every alegiance i was soooo happy. Then when they showed us this tome i was at first very angry as i was hoping for a full tome only of dispossesed. But i tried be positive and think that i could mix every mini that i had and was a great book. But then the 40% of the dispossesed units and ironweld units were deleted and my dragonlord and archmague in horse that i love and it is my favourite mini were deleted..........now i am not looking forward this book and only i am thinking of sell my minis or keep them as decorative due to the hours that i spent in them. End of the day a battletome have been a blast for every other faction so it is a shame that when it is the turn of my army it is a tome that only inspire in me and others bad felling and only want sell our army. Gw have done it so bad with this tome.........

Im with all those people selling their army,but i have a slim hope that some of those gonna be reboxed. If all gonna be deleted finally then i gonna sell my army also. I get people that want be positive and nobody like read negative comments but facts are facts: 4 years with dispossesed being the worst army of aos waiting for our battletome,then when we get it,it is only a 1\7 of tome and we get the 40%(4 of 10 units that we have) of our army deleted. It is very easy to see because people are angry. Myself started my order army 3 years ago and i am a very slow builder,so far in those 3 years i havent finished my army and i havent played any game with it,and now i can trash it because i wont cant use it. Was a general order army: Dragonlord Archmague in horse 2 runelord 2 wardenkings 20 warriors 30 ironbreackers 20 irondrakes 2 gyrocopters One fyreslayers starter sets + 10 vulkites berzerkers. In those 3 years i have built almost all,but i had to finish the last 10 vulkites to get it done and then start to play with them. Of course i could use warriors as proxy of longbeards but the dragonlord cant be proxy of magmadroth because it isnt even close,and archmague also cant be another runelord due to the horse. Also my playgroup dont like proxy,i could use them but people dislike it. Yes for my army isnt too much %. But as i said after years waiting to be compettive and then we get deleted units then it is a kick in the balls. Oh and all those minis were 100% news from gw,i didnt buy nothing second hand,so it hurts more than per example after spend as 40 hours building my dragonlord,magneticing every option,green stufing every gap etc, then i havent used it in any game yet and now it is gone? And also after see how wytches got new minis(dok),beast of khaos also got a tome with every mini and some new,goblins many new minis etc etc but when it is the dwarf turn what we get????? A tome with 7 armys togethers(all the leftovers) and the 40% of our army deleted.........really make me feel so betrayed by gw that i dont wanna buy nothing from them and i only want sell every gw mini that i have and go to other company that dont betray their customers

100% agree with you. Im sorry if i gonna get many dislikes of aos fanboys,but for me ALL new aos models are horrible and hurt to my eyes. For me a fantasy theme are dispossesed,high elfs etc,not bald and blind elfs that seems vampires or undeads riding uglys sea creatures per example. People like this?fine,but for many of us is horrible but we had the option of buy dispossesed or high elfs to play aos. I started 3 years ago with stormcast that i dislike but they were cheap to buy and start to play. Then one year later when i loved the game started my real army,a order army of dispossesed, gyrocopters,dragonlord, archmague and some fyreslayer. It was a very hard choice due to the fear of those armys being removed,but gw told us many times that nothing was going to be removed after bretons and tk and also they reboxed every dispossesed box and released the tempest eye box so impulled the trigger. Now i have spent around 400€ in my full new army that gw sell in their store that is the same that if i would have bougth idoneths or any new aos army. But what i got??????3 years of non competitive army waiting for a battletome that was promised. Then we dont get a dispossesed tome,only a 1\7 of a tome and the 40% of our army is deleted? Wtf????????? I am a new player who spent the same money than every other player but i am screwed now only due to how retards are gw? If they were going to deleted dispossesed and high elfs then why they told us they werent to deleted more armys?or why they didnt deleted them together to tk or bretonians? Sorry if people dont like this rant or fell bad for call ugly the new aos armys,but i hope people can realize my point of view: a new player that loved aos, but didnt liked new aos armys,that spent the same money that those new army boys to get my full supported by gw store army(dispossesed with high elfs) and now the 50% of my army is umplayable and feel so down that i only think of sell every model and dont play aos anymore

Dont panic,im sure this dont meaning nothing. It is 100% imposible that dragonlord is being reboxed or deleted but the black dragon isnt being or the phoenyx. Those 3 models were released at the same time and have similar price,plastic etc so if they changue\delete the dragonlord then they gonna do the same with the black dragon and phoenyx

Untill be ofitial i dont think all those units gonna be deleted. All have square base,so pretty sure all is going to be reboxed with oval. Only gladeguard and dwarf warriors have oval bases in that list and are boxes of 16 models when the units are 10, so i think they gonna rebox it as a box of 10 or 20. Also no chance of delete canons when they just get the mercenary My idea of units being deleted are the units that arent longer in the store,as reavers,lothern guard,bolt trower,dwarfs models with the dwarf keyword as slayers etc

Thats imposible,they cant remove the cannon,because they just put them as mercenarys and also the cannon\organ gun are as the 50% of the ironweld alegiance units

It is horrible and must go away. A dice roll cant be who set the winner of a game. In a game with both armys 100% balanced and where luck usually is balanced due to the raw numbers of dices,the winner must be who played better and not who got the doubleturn. Sure we can minimize the lost of a double turn with good position of minis etc,but end of the day is a single dice roll that have too much impact in the game and it is random. For me and everyone at my city is horrible and with every general handbook the first thing we look in it is if they removed the double turn finnally

I havent hopes of see any big changue. I would be surprised if they do more than only remove the option of equip shield and two hand weapons together. I hope be wrong and we get a proper update\buff but seeing how gw have dealt with dispossesed in aos.....

Sorry if i didnt put clear. The post is about the mot powerful factions and i said that the gh havent changued nothing about those most powerful factions. Excuse me if i wasnt clear,im with you that the gh buffed some factions,but those buffs havent changued tye god tier and that was my sentence

Nothing have changued with the faq and gh. Skavens,dok,fec and slanesh are the god tier yet. Lon is very close to them and then the others 2.0 tomes as fyreslayers demons,idoneths etc

Hnnnn yes???? Spiderfangs ARE goblins in spider so they are in goblin tome. And other of your examples all are the same race. The same example that you put would be dispossesed together karadron or fyreslayers that i would be 100% happy,but dwarfs with elfs????its as if they release a tome of nagash\stormcast\dok\ironjaws all together. They have done 100% that with this tome

I think that as i,many others dwarfs players feel agraviated by this. Gw told us every army was getting battletome in those two years so the bretonian delete was out of the table. Options that we had?: 1--goblins deal,a FULL release of dispossesed with ironweld mixed and many new kits 2--a new alegiance with gotrek as key character and mixing karadrons dispossesed and fyreslayers(the nagash deal) 3--the beast of khaos deal and get only a battletome for dissposesed with terrain and endless spell Those were all the options,but then we get a battletome with no terrain neither endless spell and it is a battletome with 7 or more armys in it so we gonna get the same pages that everyone for 1\7 content of dispossesed. I wont buy a tome and scrolls to only use 1\7 of the content for sure. I dont give a ****** about humans,stormcast,elfs etc i wanna my 100% only dwarfs tome as EVERYONE have got

So as dispossesed player i feel soooooo disapointed with this anouncement. For me it is 100% the "leftovers battletome" where they have put every leftover model and army all together and done. I wanted a dispossesed tome as every other faction got,are we going to get 130 pages in this tome of only dispossesed,with relic of warden kings,runelords etc, runes\prayers book for only disposseseds,many "lodges" where choose from as evey other army?? Also are we going to get endless spells and terrain only for dispossesed??? Pretty sure all those answers gonna be no,we gonna pay the same that other armys battletomes for the same pages to get only 1\7 (dispossesed\every other elf,stormcast,dark elf etc)of the lore and rules. Also pretty sure we wont get terrain neither endless spells,or with luck one for all tye battletome that gonna be so bad Sorry but as dispossesed player this tome feel so poor,a fast work to get the promised tome to every army,why release 7 individual tomes of 130 pages if you can release only 1 with same pages and 1\7 of the effort?

Agree with you. As fyreslayer player is hilarious that we have 2 boxes of units and 4 boxes of heroes in the almost 4 years since the release but in this time i see how stormcast get every year 4-7 boxes. In 4 years seeing gw store items Fyreslayers:22 Stormcast:64 So in the same time one full new army as fyreslayers got 22 items and stormcast in this same time got 64? I am fyreslayer player but i started with stormcast,due to this posterboy ultramega care of gw i have grew sick of stormcast and i havent played them in 2 years and i did my disposesed\fyreslayer army. It isnt so bad as 40k where per example the 95% of the last releases of those 2 last years have been marines and khaos marines but it is pretty close

Dont matter dude,if you think that dok are fine and those joke nerfs of this gh gonna balance it good for you. Allo is hilarious your points. Top tier dok list are 100% only spam of the most underpriced unit of the game who are the wyches and abuse of the two buffs\auras that arent wholy within when the game is changing toward all be wholy within that are hag nar temple and haq quuen. So i said a example that would balance dok of broken overpower and autowin as it is now to balanced levels as every other army(only skaven and fec are close to the lvl of overpower of dok) But sure your examples of tier2-3 armys are hilarious thankx for the jokes. I dont get those people who think that they are good and win due to be good (when win due to luck or have a broken army) and dont admit nobody tell otherwise or they get enrage even if maths never lie

Yes agree with you, this faq havent changued nothing about the free sumon(3000 points of fec vs other 2000of other army is so balanced) Also nothing about cant stack the +3 attacks spell with the attack twice etc etc They only did minor nerfs in points that are neutered by buffs to units. Only the little nerf to the attack first can be seen as nerf,but wont be enougth to bring fec out of the top spot

Sure as the hag quuen prayer that is within 3" ? That is the first and major thing to changue to wholy within 8" to be balanced. A unit of 30 daugthers doing a konga can have this buff even if one model of the unit is at 20" of the hag quuen So it is false that every buff of dok is wholy within

The gh have been a very poor job and this faq have been other poor job. Both havent done NOTHING to balance the meta. Both the nerfs and buffs have been almost nothing +20 or -20 when some units needed changues of 60-100 per example. Also armys as dok needed get the wholy within in every aura as almost every army have (fyreslayers got it at last gh) but they didnt get nothing

Yes hordes are overpower and the blame is the battleplans. Easy fix: Huge buffs to heros and moreover to heros witouth auras or command skills(as grimwrath berzerkers) Huge buffs to behemots or delete the stupid degrading stats Changue every battleplans of number of models to control objetives to number of wounds so behemoths and elites have a chance

Yes,compendium and legends never should have been created. Compendium units must get points in gh as other units,and legends units also must get scrolls and points in gh. They dont need design new molds or create new minis,design scrolls for those units and balanced points take as ........one day of work?????? Many players as me got dispossesed when tempest eye box was released(2-3 years ago) and havent got nothing of dispossesed that havent oval base due to the fear to those units be deleted in the future. For me legends and compendiuns are the same than squated armys because we only play matched play in my area(i dont know others country but in spain the 99'99999% of the aos games are matched play) For me it is easy: Kits being sold in the web MUST get 100 support(balance rules and battletome) Kits that arent sold anymore in the webstore must be deleted from the game(can be used as proxy of others units tho) So as a client that have bougth one item that is being sold rigth now by them(dispossesed new kits as ironbreackers) i demand get the same treatment and invest by gw than other armys