Chumphammer Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, KrispyXIV said: It's actually kindof shocking that stayed! Rerolls for life. I wonder - do we have ANY bonuses to casting in book now? Rerolls, bonus artefacts, etc? Since it sounds like Morathi is no longer +1... I know Doomfires previously had a +1 to cast, but the Lore for the book being limited to DoK heroes kindof kept them from anything good... Doomfires can have +1 if 5 or more Shadowstone is still +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrispyXIV Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Chumphammer said: Doomfires can have +1 if 5 or more Shadowstone is still +1 Any chance the Lore isn't limited to just heroes now, and Doomfires have access? That's been on my wishlist for them for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebluff Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, KrispyXIV said: It's actually kindof shocking that stayed! Rerolls for life. I wonder - do we have ANY bonuses to casting in book now? Rerolls, bonus artefacts, etc? Since it sounds like Morathi is no longer +1... I know Doomfires previously had a +1 to cast, but the Lore for the book being limited to DoK heroes kindof kept them from anything good... Does it matter, really? I don't know about you but I don't think I've had a cast go off unbound this entire edition. Between Croak, Teclis, and just failing the die roll, I've accepted that magic won't ever do much for me. Edited May 12, 2022 by Rebluff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrispyXIV Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Rebluff said: Does it matter, really? I don't know about you but I don't think I've had a cast go off unbound this entire edition. Between Croak, Teclis, and just failing the die roll, I've accepted that magic won't ever do much for me. I mean, I play against a lot of nurgle, std, BoC, IJ, SBGL, SCE and IDK. I'm unlikely to see Teclis or Kroak outside of an event, which is a tiny minority of my games. Access to magic rerolls (master of magic) and a +1 may matter a lot for me, if that doesn't cost me my sub faction. Edited May 12, 2022 by KrispyXIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 hours ago, KrispyXIV said: Any chance the Lore isn't limited to just heroes now, and Doomfires have access? That's been on my wishlist for them for a while. Doomfires can take book spells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrispyXIV Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Just now, Chumphammer said: Doomfires can take book spells Awesome! They updated the lore then. I was so dissappointed when it looked like their scroll changed to allow them to do so, but the lore still prevented it. Thats big for justifying their typically inflated cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskier Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Yeah that definitely makes Doomfires more attractive. I'm very excited for Blood Sisters given what I've read. Am I right in understanding they now do their mortal wounds after they attack and not at the end of the phase? If that's the case, with the roll now also being on a 2+, that's a pretty hefty boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maogrim Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 So do I get this right? Five guys on silly horses are better at casting spells than Morathi-Khaine, previously known as the Hag Sorceress, former Witch Queen of Nagaroth who is now a flippin' goddess? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMoose Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Noticed a pre-emptive FAQ regarding using 'At the Double' and abilities that modify run rolls aka Blood Rites table. Q: If a unit receives the ‘At the Double’ command, do any rules that affect run rolls still apply? A: No. So no automatic 7 inch runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucentia Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Yeah, they added that in the latest set of FAQs, not sure quite who was frequently asking that question, and it has the feel of an answer where they didn't totally think of all the possible ramifications. But on the plus side it does make it easier to break through any abilities which halve or otherwise reduce run rolls too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokken Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Doomfires are nice for setups with many heroes, getting access to cast without a hero slot is nice I would take doomfires as a utility unit over khinerais now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomsenbu Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 On 5/11/2022 at 5:10 PM, Chumphammer said: Spear snakes: Doing mw’s on 2+ now (if within 1 after unit attacks) Have they changes when the moratal Wounds triger? End of commbat or after activated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokken Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 If avatars stays at 120, they seem really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojojojo101 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gokken said: If avatars stays at 120, they seem really good. Leak on Reddit puts them up to 155... doesn't seem to hot to me. Point changes put my list with Morathi, 2x10 Stalkers and the Bladewind at exactly where it was before... got to say that feels pretty good. I have a feeling DoK will stay a strong army in this book, going by the things we have heard, lots of people going to be very salty about it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomsenbu Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 On 5/11/2022 at 5:10 PM, Chumphammer said: Spear snakes: Doing mw’s on 2+ now (if within 1 after unit attacks) Do you know if you do it at end of cambat as now, or if it is after they atack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrispyXIV Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, mojojojo101 said: Leak on Reddit puts them up to 155... doesn't seem to hot to me. At 155, assuming its scroll didn't change other than gaining independence and a 5++, it feels like a solid little anchor-roadblock to me. Non-trivial to shift, especially under a Cauldron aura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucentia Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 The only downside is that the +1 to prayers is now also on the cauldrons, I believe, which was the main value of the foot avatar to me previously, but I'll still give one or two a spin at 155, sure, that doesn't feel crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternalis Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 You may consult the temples here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokken Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Does ironscale still do the same? or did she get something new like medusa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) Avatars are Solid for 155. 3+ with cauldron and now a 5++ and don't need baby sitting with waking them up. Support shooting attack adds up and good punch in combat with rites buffing them Turn 3 haggnar can have key units be 2+/2+ with 5++ Cobra kai great for snake lists. Don't have to run medusa general if you wanna do cauldron then just snakes and the mw output and attack on death is good Edited May 13, 2022 by Chumphammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 5 hours ago, mojojojo101 said: lots of people going to be very salty about it as well. Hey that's why we play this army right? To sup on the tears of the weak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskier Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Does Morathi know all lore spells as she did post-FAQ? If so, I can imagine that's why she lost her +1 to cast/etc as that in itself was a decent buff that came out of nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrispyXIV Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Im also wondering if theres any nuance to the Medusas +1 Blood Rites for snek ability, or if it's like Witchbrew and just "choose a unit within 12". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebluff Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Boo PTG preview Boo. Sorry PTG fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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