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Aos 2 - Lumineth Realm-Lords Discussion

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22 hours ago, Congratz said:

What are folks doing for lists?
Looking for some competitve ones :)

Two list which did well in the Hammertime TT tournaments recently are: 

Allegiance: Lumineth Realm Lords
- Great Nation: Syar
Archmage Teclis and Celennar, Spirit of Hysh (660)
Scinari Cathallar (140)
- General
- Command Trait: Goading Arrogance
- Artefact: The Perfect Blade
- Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh
20 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (240)
- Lore of Hysh: Lambent Light
20 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (240)
- Lore of Hysh: Solar Flare
10 x Vanari Auralan Sentinels (140)
- Lore of Hysh: Total Eclipse
5 x Vanari Dawnriders (130)
- Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh
10 x Vanari Auralan Sentinels (140)
- Lore of Hysh: Ethereal Blessing
5 x Vanari Dawnriders (130)
- Lore of Hysh: Lambent Light
Auralan Legion (120)
Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (60)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 101

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Allegiance – good Lumineth Realm-Lords  

Great Nation of Zaitrec 

The light Of eltharion -220 (general)

Archmage Teclis – 660

(knows all spells from both lores) 

Battle line – 10 Vanari Auralan Wardens -120

Spell – Ethereal Blessing

Battle line – 10 Vanari Auralan Wardens -120

Spell – Solar flare

Battle line – 10 Vanari Auralan Sentinels -140

Spell –Total eclipse 

Battle line – 10 Vanari Auralan Sentinels -140

Spell –Total eclipse

10 Vanari Auralan Sentinels -140

Spell –Speed of Hysh 

5 Vanari Dawnriders- 130

Spell- speed of hysh

5 Vanari Dawnriders- 130

Spell- speed of hysh

Endless spells 

Umbral spellportal – 70

Rune of petrification – 70

Geminids of uhl-gysh- 60

 

Total points -2000pts 


That might give you a bit of an idea what seems to work quite well. 

 

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@LuminethMage it does my heart good to see a zaitec list that did well with that list! A glorious battle being led by the most wise and glorious god, Celenar!*

 

I am also happy to see a list with a lot of Wardens too. my favorite models and the ones I plan on spending the most on building my army around! Not too bad of a sentinel spam either. Quite nice!

 

*Teclis was there too I guess.

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Update on my problem. Just gluing the banner back to the pole/spear didn't really work, it broke pretty easy after. I think the pressure from the banner is the reason. (But it works if you do like aelfric did). 

My solution was to glue the banner  between the spear (so it could connect at two points instead of one).

After some painting it looks alright. 

 

Otherwise, do any of you think teclis would work well in a 1500 point game? (I guess it's not worth it for 1000 points).

 

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28 minutes ago, Howdyhedberg said:

Update on my problem. Just gluing the banner back to the pole/spear didn't really work, it broke pretty easy after. I think the pressure from the banner is the reason. (But it works if you do like aelfric did). 

My solution was to glue the banner  between the spear (so it could connect at two points instead of one).

After some painting it looks alright. 

 

Otherwise, do any of you think teclis would work well in a 1500 point game? (I guess it's not worth it for 1000 points).

 

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Glad you've resolved the problem - It looks great!

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9 hours ago, Howdyhedberg said:

Update on my problem. Just gluing the banner back to the pole/spear didn't really work, it broke pretty easy after. I think the pressure from the banner is the reason. (But it works if you do like aelfric did). 

My solution was to glue the banner  between the spear (so it could connect at two points instead of one).

After some painting it looks alright. 

 

Otherwise, do any of you think teclis would work well in a 1500 point game? (I guess it's not worth it for 1000 points).

 

Great that you found a good solution.

You can make a smaller version of a common 2,000 points list with Teclis.

Teclis

Scinari Cathallar

20 Wardens (1 x 20 or 2 x 10, maybe new 2 x 10 for BL depending on how strict the rules are applied for 1,500)

20 Sentinels (1 x 20 or 2 x 10)

5 Dawnriders 

1450 points. So, you can add an Endless Spell or CP. It could be pretty high drop and might not be the best way to go, but if you want to try Teclis and already get a bit of an insight how common Lumineth list which include him work, I think this kind of list should be helpful. 

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Convinced myself to paint another model before my brush replacements come in the mail this week. Decided to start working on my sentinels.

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Also assembling Stoneguard.

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@ThalmorRepresentative Nice High Warden

@LuminethMage Ooh looking good with that Eltharion

Just placed 2nd in my Local Shop's 1-day Round-Robin Tourney 😁

Mr. T does make Wardens tanky 🤭, archers can be swingy 😅

1st Game - Focal Points:

3 Terrorgheist list - Feast Day Court Opp took more time as his first game vs LRL, worked in my favour in end. End Turn 2, I was in a lead and result was called. Major Victory. If 3A was my initiative (double turn), quite confident to clear another Terrorgheist to free a flank

2nd Game - Better Part of Valor:

Gladeless Sylvaneth, 3x3 Kurnoth melee, TLA, Durthu - Was too aggressive and lost a block of 20 wardens early, hence only managed a Minor Victory here, did take out Durthu easy with Spells/Wardens. 20 Sentinels cleared Branchwraith turn 1A.

3rd Game - Forcing the Hand:

Tzeentch - Kairos/Archaon/ 3x3 Flamers/ 10 Pinks. He placed his Deathstars towards one flank. Wardens w PowerHysh/Re-roll1s Save/5+FNP/AetherQuartz x2 +2 save, took 1 single dmg from a buffed Archaon in Turn 1. He took double in Turn 2, finished the Wardens and the other wardens w Teclis & spells finished Archaon Turn 2.  1 wound Teclis then flies to their empty obj and scores, resulting in a Major for me. *phew* 😅

My Thoughts:

Teclis point sink is real. Little or min sized troops avail

Blocks of 10 wardens are not sufficient to take hits from most armies/Deathstar even with -1 and 5+FNP on.

Forgot my Lifeswarm combo whole day 🤦‍♂️ (Game 1 and 3, chose Ghyran to be able make D6 slain models come back)

A unit of 5xDawnriders (missing in my list for guaranteed 1st turn - 2 drop) makes a huge tactical difference (Not really gonna dent any 4+ screens though)

Sentinels in 10 block (9 shots) is very meh 😑 Especially if they are needed to set up separate from castle as far Obj holding

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Details of Battle Report were remembered wrongly
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@jartem thanks and that sounds exciting especially the 3rd match. Really great to see more BT reports coming in! 

Your analysis bodes well for my first list - which is all MSU, lol 😅 

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@jartem you can't have +2 save and ethereal (since you ignore positive modifiers as well) 

I have two lists which do you prefer and why pls 

Allegiance: Lumineth Realm Lords
- Great Nation: Syar

Leaders
Archmage Teclis and Celennar, Spirit of Hysh (660)
Scinari Cathallar (140)
- General
- Command Trait: Goading Arrogance
- Artefact: The Perfect Blade
- Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh

Battleline
20 x Vanari Auralan Sentinels (280)
- Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh
20 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (240)
- Lore of Hysh: Protection of Hysh
20 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (240)
- Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh
20 x Vanari Auralan Sentinels (280)
- Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh

Battalions
Auralan Legion (120)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Hyshian Twinstones (30)

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 101
 

Or 

 

Allegiance: Lumineth Realm Lords
- Great Nation: Syar

Leaders
Archmage Teclis and Celennar, Spirit of Hysh (660)
Scinari Cathallar (140)
- General
- Command Trait: Goading Arrogance
- Artefact: The Perfect Blade
- Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh

Battleline
20 x Vanari Auralan Sentinels (280)
- Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh
10 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (120)
- Lore of Hysh: Protection of Hysh
20 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (240)
- Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh
20 x Vanari Auralan Sentinels (280)
- Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh

Battalions
Auralan Legion (120)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Hyshian Twinstones (30)
Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (60)
Umbral Spellportal (70)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 91
 

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I found ymetrica lists to be REALLY strong vs certain armys, i used this vs fireslayers

 

Avalenor

Stonemage

Stonemage

 

5xStoneguard

10xstoneguard

10xstoneguard

20xsentinels

10xsentinels

Alarith spirit of the mountain

Alarith temple batalion

 

The fact that i ignore rend, reroll saves, and give -2 to hit to enemis, -3 to sentinels (?!!) make this army basically freaking immortal

 

It was fun to see a whole army of one of the best melee units getting crushed like a wave on a rock against my stoneguard, at the end of the game, he lost everithing and i lost like 8 models the whole freaking game

 

Only downside its that its a bit slow and it can be hard to reach objectives in some battleplans, but boy its a lot of fun to play this list

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@Yondaime well dont forget fyreslayers hits first in their combat phase so they basically have only-1 to hit and you can't reroll saves (you can have +1 save tho but only on one unit) but our army basically counters fyreslayers not only ymetrica 

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Just now, DaCapo said:

@Yondaime well dont forget fyreslayers hits first in their combat phase so they basically have only-1 to hit and you can't reroll saves (you can have +1 save tho but only on one unit) but our army basically counters fyreslayers not only ymetrica 

They have to use a cp and have a batalion hero near (with sentinels i sniped those heroes), and you have the save rerolls and all the debuff if its your turn, since you decide what abilites are actived first at the start of the combat fase

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What was the fyreslayers list ? 

Yeah if it's your turn ofc you have everything !!!

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Just now, DaCapo said:

What was the fyreslayers list ? 

Yeah if it's your turn ofc you have everything !!!

if i remember correctly it was the hermdar and the lord of the lodge batalion

1 magmadon 3 heroes and 3 blob of 20 heartguard

1 hero and 1 heartguard unit was in deepstrike

 

plus the 4+ ignore spells in 12" radius artifact

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Okay yeah i think nowadays fyreslayers needs the shooter to protect their heroes from sniping 🤔🤔 but still wp !!

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10 minutes ago, DaCapo said:

Okay yeah i think nowadays fyreslayers needs the shooter to protect their heroes from sniping 🤔🤔 but still wp !!

Problem is, how can you protect a hero from a 36" no line of sight shoot 5+ MW?

If you leave him behind it wont buff your troops

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I was talking about auric hearthguards they can take mw for the non magma heroes

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So the book cover for Direchasm shows the sword fighter in more detail. Doesn’t look like she has something to do with the River Temple, as she hasn’t got any River runes on her. Could be of course be sue she is part of that specific group. Maybe we hear a bit more about them in the preview this week. 
 

 

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29 minutes ago, LuminethMage said:

So the book cover for Direchasm shows the sword fighter in more detail. Doesn’t look like she has something to do with the River Temple, as she hasn’t got any River runes on her. Could be of course be sue she is part of that specific group. Maybe we hear a bit more about them in the preview this week. 
 

 

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I’m dying for more lumineth lore and units, so I’m excited for this!

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8 hours ago, Acid_Nine said:

I’m dying for more lumineth lore and units, so I’m excited for this!

Me too, and we are lucky, we likely see some of the models and probably get a bit more info about them on Saturday during the preview. 

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On 10/10/2020 at 7:08 AM, LuminethMage said:

I finally couldn’t avoid painting Eltharion, and I’m pretty happy with the result. 

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Nice! The stone looks really good and the color balance is solid. I can't wait to paint my Eltharion either!

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32 minutes ago, Pyrescribe said:

Nice! The stone looks really good and the color balance is solid. I can't wait to paint my Eltharion either!

Thank you. He was fun to paint, and it's such a nice model, I was just worried to mess it up. But it worked out ok. I still have two more from my 3 boxes 🙃, so I have two more shots at him, once my skills improved. 

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16 hours ago, LuminethMage said:

Thank you. He was fun to paint, and it's such a nice model, I was just worried to mess it up. But it worked out ok. I still have two more from my 3 boxes 🙃, so I have two more shots at him, once my skills improved. 

Yeah that's how I'm thinking about it. My first one came out alright, but I think I over primed it, which caused some detail to be lost by the end of it. 

So I'm looking forward to a second attempt as well.

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Hello mates,

 

Here you have an UB2 battle report with my Maggotkins vs Lumineth. We played on UB2 because is better for the pictures and analysis but on the future we can try TTS bcs I have it too. I´m sorry because I wanted some lumineth painting tutorial and more reports but now I´m in Madrid and things are bad with covid-19.

I hope you like it.

 

 

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