Thalassic Monstrosity Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Aluminium foil wishes it was as pliant as 40k's lore. 40k is built on entire strata of retcons. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 hours ago, Vasshpit said: Do you think the backlash would of been equal had they added men to sisters of battle? Edit: Irrelevant I suppose and meant no offense. Just trying to have a discussion. Would HAVE been, please. I would not care to get a brother of silence! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalassic Monstrosity Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I'm interested in the list building 4e is implementing. I might be misunderstanding but it seems similar to that of Conquest, right? Where your Hero choice has an effect on your unit selection? I like that. I mean, Akhelian Kings are reasonably going to be accompanied by other Akhelians. Krethusa isn't going to be chilling with a ball of Melusai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 hours ago, Satyrical Sophist said: People have dug out references to “men” and “sons” and the like. Sure Imo the simply recruit women if the noble house they recruit from happens to have no sons 🤷🏼♂️ imo fem custodes are really cool (Valkyries!) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalassic Monstrosity Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 A Youtuber I followed said "Custodes are chosen from the strongest applicants and women aren't as strong as men". That's why Sigmar is better. He picked his Stormcast not for their physical strength but their strength of character. He could mold the rest into a warrior's body. Behold Garradan, a healer who defended his patients with candlesticks. Not a warrior, not an athlete, certainly not a gene-enhanced warrior. Now behold Gardus Steel Soul, who needs no ****ing introduction. The Emperor says "only the worthy". The Hallowed Knights cry "Only the faithful." 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 36 minutes ago, Thalassic Monstrosity said: I'm interested in the list building 4e is implementing. I might be misunderstanding but it seems similar to that of Conquest, right? Where your Hero choice has an effect on your unit selection? I like that. I mean, Akhelian Kings are reasonably going to be accompanied by other Akhelians. Krethusa isn't going to be chilling with a ball of Melusai. Yep, but instead of having a mainstay and restricted units, each hero just unlocks some units to be in their warband regiment. But you can still take whatever you want, it just becomes an auxiliary unit, but pretty sure that you will need a good strategy to do that. Come on GW, just release the shooting phase article with a few warscrolls!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, MitGas said: There‘s also a rumor that Henry Cavill hates it so much he might drop out of the show as it reminds him of the whole Witcher fiasco but not sure if there is any truth to it. Apparently Amazon asked for female Custodes for the show. Yes there's a rumour... coming out of a random 4chan post... Which ends with "my father works at Nintendo". It says a lot about the level of the debate really. The past few days made me feel so happy that AoS, for all it's flaws, is not saddled with with the "boys club" lore. 13 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, MitGas said: There‘s also a rumor that Henry Cavill hates it so much he might drop out of the show as it reminds him of the whole Witcher fiasco but not sure if there is any truth to it. Apparently Amazon asked for female Custodes for the show. Well Netflix didn't do The Witcher justice. I think it's true that Henry was unhappy how The Witcher series evolved. It could be that Amazon insisted in having female Custodes. We will never know. I really like the Fallout series, but the Rings of Power was a disappointment. AoS is so much easier to be more diverse, simply because the core background is written in different times than 40K core background. Sadly for GW, 40K is the thing that keeps the company profitable. Nothing else comes close. So as a company GW has to be careful what they do with 40K. 40K = Games Workshop. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Red Lines Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 hours ago, Kronos said: The Year is 2074, 10 years after the Civil strife in Warhammer World HQ Interestingly, THWG talked on the show the other day about new 3d printers that print pre-coloured minis. Although these exist now, the upcoming new generation offer resolution high enough that its the equivalent of a Golden Demon paint job. Makes you wonder whether GW will still be around in 50 years, or even 10 years. Or if it is, what it's business model will look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetconnedLegion Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 50 minutes ago, Thalassic Monstrosity said: A Youtuber I followed said "Custodes are chosen from the strongest applicants and women aren't as strong as men". That's why Sigmar is better. He picked his Stormcast not for their physical strength but their strength of character. He could mold the rest into a warrior's body. Behold Garradan, a healer who defended his patients with candlesticks. Not a warrior, not an athlete, certainly not a gene-enhanced warrior. Now behold Gardus Steel Soul, who needs no ****ing introduction. The Emperor says "only the worthy". The Hallowed Knights cry "Only the faithful." The YouTuber is wrong. Custodes are selected at birth, for their genetic suitability and built from the ground up. That to me is one of the biggest ironies of the whinging. Half of those complaining of fluff changes don’t even know the fluff they supposedly care so much about. 12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 7 hours ago, Vasshpit said: Of course nothing is set in stone until officially shown and all that and I wouldn't expect anything more than two kits. Would it be that crazy to have two very differentiated Grots armies? If we have Aelves and Duardins, why not? Destro really needs some expansion. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 7 hours ago, Vasshpit said: From what I've gathered its not about the cooties at all, its about the slap to said nerds intelligence and the adding of said cooties for no other reason than to just add cooties to meet some invisible cootie quota. Might be in for a wild hobby ride, forum fam.... 😬 If it means that GW ends up dropping prices, let's put more cooties in! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 7 hours ago, Luperci said: No way that people have stirred up enough of a fuss to cause the CFO to sell stock. If these GW corpos are even aware that the greasy internet content creators at the forefront of the controversy exist, I'd be surprised. I'd guess it's just stock trading stuff and we'll be none the wiser as to why they did this. Random shot in the dark maybe the amazon deal went sour or more problems with the new factory? There's a Spanish popular saying: Think the worst and you won’t be far wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 18 minutes ago, Tonhel said: I really like the Fallout series Fallout 4 had an increase of 7500% after their shows release. If GW can have a healthier community for 40k, and its show is good enough, pretty sure that it will be a win/win in a mid and long term. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 hours ago, Luperci said: It would've been worse if they made it into a big performance of "look how progressive we are", as a retcon, warhammer lore gets and has gotten retconned constantly, it's definitely a much bigger deal than people are making it out to be. Even if you do care, they're your toy soldiers just don't have them be women who cares. Which has been the biggest retcon so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Beliman said: Fallout 4 had an increase of 7500% after their shows release. If GW can have a healthier community for 40k, and its show is good enough, pretty sure that it will be a win/win in a mid and long term. Amazon sort of need that success because they been having problems with Ring of Power especially since it seems they are cutting marketing and promotion for it. (And they spent a billion on this project) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marcvs said: Yes there's a rumour... coming out of a random 4chan post... Which ends with "my father works at Nintendo". It says a lot about the level of the debate really. The past few days made me feel so happy that AoS, for all it's flaws, is not saddled with with the "boys club" lore. ^^^^^I can't believe how much people is falling for a 4chan shitposting that is very clearly a joke, lmao. Look guys, GW doesnt license ****** if they don't get the last word on anything. If you spend 50 millions of dollars into making a film and say "Now we want to put beastmen with beaks" GW is going to crush you, no matter if you're a Hollywood producer, or a triple A developper. Their licensing team is more ruthless than Archaon. Edited April 24 by Garrac 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 hours ago, Kronos said: The Year is 2074, 10 years after the Civil strife in Warhammer World HQ. The Warring Clans - Warhammer the Old World, AoS, and 40K have destabilised the Peace Treaties due to a disagreement on the Spelling of “Snotlings”. The Neutral Faction of “Specialist Designers” celebrate their first release in decades, “Bill The Pony- Get Back on the Road”. The internet brays with excitement at rumours that Malerion and his Aelves are just a couple of editions away. Malerion and his Aelves are just a couple of editions away? Nah. It should be a rumour. What is more important is... What happened to the HH Clan!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 hours ago, Gitzdee said: Someone is collecting the wrong army. Greasy and oiled is not the same! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 hours ago, RyantheFett said: Seems the trend so far is that every other Codex is pretty bad. Bright side is that it means every release we don't get a crazy overpowered faction that will have to get a ton of nurfs. Will be interesting to see how AoS codexs will go. The latest ones have been pretty solid. Hopefully with the new Ruination content and the Skavens refresh we follow that trend during the 4th edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Did we every get that rumor about Warhammer underworld was being retire because of low sells? and that Warcry was also not performing as well so they are rebranding it next year with a mordheim esque setting with skaven vs city of sigmar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captaniser Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 46 minutes ago, Marcvs said: Yes there's a rumour... coming out of a random 4chan post... Which ends with "my father works at Nintendo". It says a lot about the level of the debate really. The past few days made me feel so happy that AoS, for all it's flaws, is not saddled with with the "boys club" lore. It is the most forced moral outrage campaign I've ever seen regarding popular culture. Oh no, a slight retcon in a sea of various and massive changes to established canon? Won't somebody think of the children. Why did every media "critic" on YouTube make a video on the subject even though they have never even referenced Warhammer before? Why did the Daily Mail write an article about GW going Woke by making lady Custodes and use pictures of Stormcast in said article? Why did every vocal Holocaust denier on twitter begin talking about how sacred the lore of Warhammer is even though they couldn't tell you the slightest thing about it? It is a grift, nothing more and nothing less. Just ignore it, in a month they will be gone once their culture war Shepard have taken them to a different pasture to yell at rainbows 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, MitGas said: Apparently Amazon asked for female Custodes for the show. Do we even know if there is going to be Cusdones in the show or what it will be about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Thalassic Monstrosity said: I'm interested in the list building 4e is implementing. I might be misunderstanding but it seems similar to that of Conquest, right? Where your Hero choice has an effect on your unit selection? I like that. I mean, Akhelian Kings are reasonably going to be accompanied by other Akhelians. Krethusa isn't going to be chilling with a ball of Melusai. Or maybe Krethusa starts convincing Melusais to join her cause. Never say never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someravella Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Unfortunately, it's well known that social media thrives on clickbait and visceral reactions, and the "antiwoke" topic in IPs is a perfect field to exploit. How many YouTubers say and repeat the exact same things, or give credence to rumors without any basis, just to create "content" and get views... For me, the worst part of all this is that it shows, once again, that many "fans" fail to understand satire and take those worlds as a utopia instead of a dystopia (it happened recently with Helldivers, Starship troopers, and Fallout). And that's where it hurts those "fans": it's not about a minor retcon to include women (which changes practically nothing), but it's a breach in their fantasy. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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