Luperci Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 23 minutes ago, Grunbag said: You mean this picture ? It’s not from white dwarf it’s from stormbringer magazine Big yellers kruleboyz are also from chamon iirc 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth 🍄 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 7 hours ago, Luperci said: Idk I like kruleboyz being a bit more realistically proportioned, a lot of the other orcs/orks GW makes look a little silly to me. As time goes on the old style orcs are looking more cartoony and dated to me. I think the Kruleboyz sculpts have played a big part in that - I really like them, especially the Gutrippaz. 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Gareth 🍄 said: As time goes on the old style orcs are looking more cartoony and dated to me. I think the Kruleboyz sculpts have played a big part in that - I really like them, especially the Gutrippaz. I think there's also a big factor related to trends. There was a period in GW's history where the minis were more cartoony/ funny. Then we had a more Grimm Dark period that seems to be the one that has been established. If you have a range mainly designed during that cartoony period, as much as you try to shift it into a new direction, there is going to be a point where you cannot force it more and will always remind you of that cartoony times. When you sum up the fact that sculps have evolved and now we can achieve stuff that previously you couldn't, and everything looks more realistic now, it is normal that those cartoony looking models feel a bit out of place. And there's a last big factor to have in mind. Any kind of art is subjective. So something that looks cartoony to me could not inspire the same feelings in you. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 hours ago, Ejecutor said: From a Chamon POV, how do those factions fit in? Tzeentch and Skavens are pretty solid in Chamon, but what about the rest? Is there any major location/ narrative from any of them that happened in Chamon? I dont think Realms have much to play in the way of releases. 2nd Edition was Death and Shyish focused and we got Lumineth Realm Lords and Sons of Behemat in that time. Only the narrative is really affected. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: I dont think Realms have much to play in the way of releases. 2nd Edition was Death and Shyish focused and we got Lumineth Realm Lords and Sons of Behemat in that time. Only the narrative is really affected. We did also get Nighthaunt, Ossiarch Bonereapers, and Soulblight in 2nd edition. I would agree that 2nd ed is not a good baseline though, as it's really where we saw the start of modern AoS in earnest. Everyone was getting battletomes and new factions were popping out of the woodwork. I think the choice of realm focus has *some* relevance to what we may see model-wise. During 3rd ed Ghur it was no coincidence that we got Kruelboyz, Kragnos, and an expansion for IJ. But Destruction clearly was not a focus for the entire run. I think whatever the next realm is for 4th, there is a significant, model-related reason that we'll see either sooner or later. Does it mean the whole edition will be Shadow factions? Absolutely not. But the reason could be Malerion's rise to power somewhere in the middle or even end of it. New miniature release schedules form what we see in the narrative, not the other way around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Gareth 🍄 said: As time goes on the old style orcs are looking more cartoony and dated to me. I think the Kruleboyz sculpts have played a big part in that - I really like them, especially the Gutrippaz. One huge attraction for me in their design in the real world functionality. Armor has actual straps, weapons have mechanisms, weapons are not two ton axes, etc. This is just one design element that I absolutely love on top of soo much more. Anatomy is spot on for me as well. Hell, the mirebrute is hands down THE BEST troll ever done by geedubs imo. I really think it's been underrated just how much of a brave and innovative desicion it was for them to deviate from their tried and true orcsh design history. And I'm absolutely here for it. Don't get me wrong here. I'm a huge fan of classic design that has made it's way into the fantastic ironjawz line. But I'll never look at them the same. This is a big reason behind why I absolutely adore the snarlfang riders kit and hope there's more of them and they stick with it as well. As always, salute to the unsung heros we know as the artists behind these. ✊️ Keep em krule and keep em coming. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Vasshpit said: One huge attraction for me in their design in the real world functionality. Armor has actual straps, weapons have mechanisms, weapons are not two ton axes, etc. This is just one design element that I absolutely love on top of soo much more. Anatomy is spot on for me as well. Hell, the mirebrute is hands down THE BEST troll ever done by geedubs imo. I really think it's been underrated just how much of a brave and innovative desicion it was for them to deviate from their tried and true orcsh design history. And I'm absolutely here for it. Don't get me wrong here. I'm a huge fan of classic design that has made it's way into the fantastic ironjawz line. But I'll never look at them the same. This is a big reason behind why I absolutely adore the snarlfang riders kit and hope there's more of them and they stick with it as well. As always, salute to the unsung heros we know as the artists behind these. ✊️ Keep em krule and keep em coming. I still prefer heroic scale to true scale at this size. Once you get a bit bigger true looks better 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 hours ago, Vasshpit said: One huge attraction for me in their design in the real world functionality. Armor has actual straps, weapons have mechanisms, weapons are not two ton axes, etc. This is just one design element that I absolutely love on top of soo much more. Anatomy is spot on for me as well. Hell, the mirebrute is hands down THE BEST troll ever done by geedubs imo. I really think it's been underrated just how much of a brave and innovative desicion it was for them to deviate from their tried and true orcsh design history. And I'm absolutely here for it. Don't get me wrong here. I'm a huge fan of classic design that has made it's way into the fantastic ironjawz line. But I'll never look at them the same. This is a big reason behind why I absolutely adore the snarlfang riders kit and hope there's more of them and they stick with it as well. As always, salute to the unsung heros we know as the artists behind these. ✊️ Keep em krule and keep em coming. I like the classic Morruks more if i had to pick one. Most of the AoS era orruks designs look great imho. Bonesplitterz have much potential and the recent Ironjawz wave has some great units. I also like some of the Kruleboyz designs. It took me some getting used to but i like them now. I agree with the Mirebrute, great Troggoth design and would like to see more of those, i also like the ranged units a lot. I dont like the Marshcrawla and Hobgrots though, thats just my opinion of the unit itself and not the design space used here. But to me, to be honest, i dont get why Orruks need to be split up this much. I dont mind orruks with different body types mixed together, i am a big fan of Big Waaagh!! the most for that reason. The more options for creative freedom the better it is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosskelot Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 The issue with the Kruleboyz is not that they don't look good*, it's that they don't share any real design language with the rest of the army whatsoever. They really need to be their own separate faction. *Some of their stuff is weird, but it's more lore and visual design not really being on the same page. Apparently they're massive worshippers of Kragnos and then there's nothing about that reflected in their designs anywhere. Feels very much like something tacked on at the end with GW then retroactively trying to convince people that "oh this banner and these shields totally represent Kragnos." 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 51 minutes ago, Gitzdee said: Bonesplitterz have much potential and the recent Ironjawz wave has some great units. I also like some of the Kruleboyz designs. Opinion : the 40k Beast Snaggaz and the new Kroots might give the artists at GW clues on where to take Bonesplitterz in the future. Since all share that “savage/primitive” vibe. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitzok Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 8 hours ago, Vasshpit said: One huge attraction for me in their design in the real world functionality. Armor has actual straps, weapons have mechanisms, weapons are not two ton axes, etc. This is just one design element that I absolutely love on top of soo much more. Anatomy is spot on for me as well. Hell, the mirebrute is hands down THE BEST troll ever done by geedubs imo. I really think it's been underrated just how much of a brave and innovative desicion it was for them to deviate from their tried and true orcsh design history. And I'm absolutely here for it. Don't get me wrong here. I'm a huge fan of classic design that has made it's way into the fantastic ironjawz line. But I'll never look at them the same. This is a big reason behind why I absolutely adore the snarlfang riders kit and hope there's more of them and they stick with it as well. As always, salute to the unsung heros we know as the artists behind these. ✊️ Keep em krule and keep em coming. Speaking of trolls and snarfang, do you guys think they would get any new ones? Imo they could do some really creative stuff with plain troggoths that look like burial mounds/kurgans when they sleep. Also if we get a wolf chariot it better be a sleigh. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 40 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: Opinion : the 40k Beast Snaggaz and the new Kroots might give the artists at GW clues on where to take Bonesplitterz in the future. Since all share that “savage/primitive” vibe. I agree, i am trying to kitbash some beastsnaggas for my next project. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 36 minutes ago, pitzok said: Speaking of trolls and snarfang, do you guys think they would get any new ones? Imo they could do some really creative stuff with plain troggoths that look like burial mounds/kurgans when they sleep. Also if we get a wolf chariot it better be a sleigh. Give me a greenskinz version of this one for frazzlegitz please. Seems like the perfect thing between gitmob and grotbag. I also hope to see some generic sourbreath troggoths sometime as a unit of 5. I think it would round out the subfaction. Edited January 28 by Gitzdee 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 38 minutes ago, pitzok said: Speaking of trolls and snarfang, do you guys think they would get any new ones? Imo they could do some really creative stuff with plain troggoths that look like burial mounds/kurgans when they sleep. Also if we get a wolf chariot it better be a sleigh. New Troggs are always welcome. In the Lore they literally adapt to their environments and Realm Specific upgrades are the perfect way to do this. Also Im hoping for a Fellwater AOS upgrade in 4th if not 5th Edition. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunbag Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Gitzdee said: Give me a greenskinz version of this one for frazzlegitz please. Seems like the perfect thing between gitmob and grotbag. I also hope to see some generic sourbreath troggoths sometime as a unit of 5. I think it would round out the subfaction. Frazzlegitz are gitmobs of im correct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: Opinion : the 40k Beast Snaggaz and the new Kroots might give the artists at GW clues on where to take Bonesplitterz in the future. Since all share that “savage/primitive” vibe. Do we know if the sculptors are shared between games? Or each one has its own dedicated team of sculptors? Because if it is the first option, wouldn't surprise me that those working on the factions you've mentioned are the ones working in Bonesplitterz as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 @Ejecutor I'm sure they are different sculptors. The heads and especially the mouth designs are a clear indication imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Grunbag said: Frazzlegitz are gitmobs of im correct Yes but i would prefer them fused together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 37 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: Do we know if the sculptors are shared between games? Or each one has its own dedicated team of sculptors? Because if it is the first option, wouldn't surprise me that those working on the factions you've mentioned are the ones working in Bonesplitterz as well. The only part of the studio that overlaps is the designers. The ironjawz Maw Krusha and Mortarion were designed by the same person. Darren Latham mostly does 40k but he also did the shadowstalkers underworlds warband and Eternus. Seb Perbet did many of the big centrepieces for AoS and also designed Abaddon and Guilliman. The specialist studios has a separate team that does all their stuff. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Given how little releases appear to be on schedule on february (unless GW does crazy shenanigans) it seems like the most interesting part of today's sunday previews will be the final phrases, as next week we should be getting the battlescrolls and metawatches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunbag Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 36 minutes ago, Gitzdee said: Yes but i would prefer them fused together. I think they will be the same subfaction . My money is on snarlfang rider are the first gitmob/frazzlegitz unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 @Chikout Do you know who sclpted the Kruleboyz? Ive been trying to find out for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Too early for Orcs and Goblins today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 14 minutes ago, EntMan said: Too early for Orcs and Goblins today? I'd put money in fec and db4 over tow orcs and goblins 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grunbag said: I think they will be the same subfaction . My money is on snarlfang rider are the first gitmob/frazzlegitz unit I agree. The fact that the Snarlfang Riders and Rippas Snarlfangs already have the Gitmob keyword is enough reason for me to believe they will be getting a tome or update at some point. The Gitmob keyword has no connection to anything in the Gloomspite Gitz tome. Rippas warband didnt have the Gitmob keyword 2nd edition. The reason for this might be that Gitmob is getting released before a potential new tome drops. That way it shouldnt matter that much if it is a Gloompsite Gitz update to the current tome or a new Frazzlegitz tome 4th edition. The groundwork has already been laid out including lore bits. Edited January 28 by Gitzdee Added words 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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