The Rumour Thread

[Wraith]

2 hours ago, Boingrot Bouncer said:

To bad that Stormbringer magazine cost so much to get from UK to Sweden that it makes it cheaper to buy the kits.

Since I love to paint a model or two from different factions now and then it would be a instabuy if I could get it at something that looks like the UK price.

There was a time when Scandinavians who didn't like British prices, would row right on over to 'renegotiate' a fair distribution of British production. The young are too soft these days.

[Aeryenn]

Unfortunately a lot of outdated models are staying but still it is a move in the right direction. Quite surprised that Sisters of the Thorn are leaving being one of the best models in current CoS range.

[Grungnisson]

They spelt 'have to' wrong.

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

Update Cities roster best guess:

 

Spoiler

1. • Celestial Hurricanum with Celestial Battlemage
2. • Freeguild General on Griffon
3. • Battlemage on Griffon
4. • Dreadlord on Black Dragon
5. • Luminark of Hysh with White Battlemage
6. • Sorceress on Black Dragon
7. • Steam Tank with Commander
8. • Assassin
9. • Battlemage
10. • Black Ark Fleetmaster
11. • Cogsmith
12. • Runelord
13. • Sorceress
14. • Warden King
15. • Doralia ven Denst
16. • Galen ven Denst
17. • Haskell Hexbane
18. • Hexbane's Hunters
19. • Flagellants
20. • Bleakswords
21. • Darkshards
22. • Dreadspears
23. • Ironbreakers
24. • Longbeards
25. • Black Ark Corsairs
26. • Black Guard
27. • Dark Riders
28. • Drakespawn Chariots
29. • Drakespawn Knights
30. • Executioners
31. • Gyrobombers
32. • Gyrocopters
33. • Hammerers
34. • Irondrakes
35. • Scourgerunner Chariots
36. • Celestial Hurricanum
37. • Kharibdyss
38. • Luminark of Hysh
39. • Steam Tank
40. • War Hydra
41. Steelhelms
42. Cavaliers
43. Fusiliers
44. Marshall
45. Alchemite
46. Thalia Vedra
47. Warhulk
48. Cannon (whitefang confirmed)
49. Elites (Big Axe Render)
50. Big Religious Kit (Religious bits render)
51. Unrevealed Unit 1 (e,g Warpriest)
52. Unrevealed Unit 2 (e.g Witch Hunter)
53. Unrevealed Unit 3 (e.g. Outriders)
54. Unrevealed Unit 4 (e.g THE WAR WAGON)

Now includes the two griffons and Flagellants. Looks like the Flagellants will be the Grave Guard of Cities.

This leaves us with at most 6 7 more kits to be revealed.

EDIT: Forgot to remove Shadow Warriors even though I just posted about them.

Edited July 13, 2023 by Neil Arthur Hotep

[Acrozatarim]

Shame to see pistoliers and demigryph knights go; I hope wel'll see eventual skirmish cav/superheavy cav replacements or resculpts for them at some point.

[EonChao]

I'm a little sad as the Shadow Warriors are already gone here and they were on the list of things I was considering for my Har Kuron army but hopefully they'll be back as High Elves in TOW soon.

Still that should give us an idea of how many of the 54 units we're still waiting to see.

[The Brotherhood of Necros]

I hold out hope to see Seraphon Saurus Guard and now Flagellants as an Underworlds or Warcry update at some point in the future. 

[michu]

3 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

Looks like the Flagellants will be the Grave Guard of Cities.

So a still perfectly servicable kit beloved by many? Yeah, I can see that.

[Asbestress]

3 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

Update Cities roster best guess:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

1. • Celestial Hurricanum with Celestial Battlemage
2. • Freeguild General on Griffon
3. • Battlemage on Griffon
4. • Dreadlord on Black Dragon
5. • Luminark of Hysh with White Battlemage
6. • Sorceress on Black Dragon
7. • Steam Tank with Commander
8. • Assassin
9. • Battlemage
10. • Black Ark Fleetmaster
11. • Cogsmith
12. • Runelord
13. • Sorceress
14. • Warden King
15. • Doralia ven Denst
16. • Galen ven Denst
17. • Haskell Hexbane
18. • Hexbane's Hunters
19. • Flagellants
20. • Bleakswords
21. • Darkshards
22. • Dreadspears
23. • Ironbreakers
24. • Longbeards
25. • Black Ark Corsairs
26. • Black Guard
27. • Dark Riders
28. • Drakespawn Chariots
29. • Drakespawn Knights
30. • Executioners
31. • Gyrobombers
32. • Gyrocopters
33. • Hammerers
34. • Irondrakes
35. • Scourgerunner Chariots
36. • Shadow Warriors
37. • Celestial Hurricanum
38. • Kharibdyss
39. • Luminark of Hysh
40. • Steam Tank
41. • War Hydra
42. Steelhelms
43. Cavaliers
44. Fusiliers
45. Marshall
46. Alchemite
47. Thalia Vedra
48. Warhulk
49. Cannon (whitefang confirmed)
50. Elites (Big Axe Render)
51. Big Religious Kit (Religious bits render)
52. Unrevealed Unit 1 (e,g Warpriest)
53. Unrevealed Unit 2 (e.g Witch Hunter)
54. Unrevealed Unit 3 (e.g. Outriders)

Now includes the two griffons and Flagellants. Looks like the Flagellants will be the Grave Guard of Cities.

This leaves us with at most 6 more kits to be revealed.

Wait...

Now that we have the artillery confirmed, that means there are 5 slots left.
And there are 6 Cursed City heroes, who can't be in the Battletome due to this...

ANOTHER 6 NEW KITS CONFIRMED?????

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

4 minutes ago, Aeryenn said:

Unfortunately a lot of outdated models are staying but still it is a move in the right direction. Quite surprised that Sisters of the Thorn are leaving being one of the best models in current CoS range.

For me as a Cities player, the non-replaced kits are the ones I would have wanted to return anyway. The Steam Tank is an iconic Warhammer unit and the kit still holds up well enough. It is ornate enough to fit with the new Freeguild aesthetics, same with the Hurricanum (plus they just sold two of those as a double pack during Broken Realms). The Griffons are a cool big monster kit at an affordable price, definitely not the worst to keep around. The Battlemage kit fun with a lot of customizability. Flagellants are whatever, nobody ever runs them currently.

It was never realistic for GW to update all 50+ cities units at once. But this unit selection signals to me that GW wants Cities to be an army of combined elf, dwarf and human forces, not just as a stop gap but as its identity. So I am looking forward to what that means for the future.

2 minutes ago, Grungnisson said:

They spelt 'have to' wrong.

All Dispossessed and Dark Elves are still in. That's a lot of stuff.

4 minutes ago, michu said:

So a still perfectly servicable kit beloved by many? Yeah, I can see that.

Just wait for the Flagellant Underworlds warband that will eventually put them into perspective

[EonChao]

2 minutes ago, Asbestress said:

Wait...

Now that we have the artillery confirmed, that means there are 5 slots left.
And there are 6 Cursed City heroes, who can't be in the Battletome due to this...

ANOTHER 6 NEW KITS CONFIRMED?????

I'm wondering if stuff like the Cursed City heroes might just be shuffled into Legends.

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

Just now, EonChao said:

I'm wondering if stuff like the Cursed City heroes might just be shuffled into Legends.

They are already in legends since 3rd ed started. Or rather, in Limbo. They were never in any of the printed points lists, they only have their 2nd ed points in the app.

[EntMan]

So, i reckon my 20 Crossbowmen and 10 Sisters of the Watch are all going to have to pretend to be Darkshards? Can't think of other proxies that'll make sense?

But glad GW have done this at last and given a bit of certainty.

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

7 minutes ago, Asbestress said:

Wait...

Now that we have the artillery confirmed, that means there are 5 slots left.
And there are 6 Cursed City heroes, who can't be in the Battletome due to this...

ANOTHER 6 NEW KITS CONFIRMED?????

I didn't have the Cursed City guys on my list to begin with. They are non-canon in my book. Which is the Book of Grudges because they are great and should be usable.

[Draznak]

7 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

Update Cities roster best guess:

You forgot to remove the shadow warriors

2 minutes ago, Asbestress said:

Wait...

Now that we have the artillery confirmed, that means there are 5 slots left.
And there are 6 Cursed City heroes, who can't be in the Battletome due to this...

ANOTHER 6 NEW KITS CONFIRMED?????

That's even 7 new kits to discover !

Here are my predictions :

1. Reliquary / War Altar (confirmed by 3D render, some clue with "feretory" name according to WarCom article)
2. Artillery (confirmed by Whitefang and today's WarCom article)
3. Elite infantry (strongly suggested by two-hand axe in 3D renders)
4. Callis & Toll (confirmation with positive reaction by Whitefang ?)
5. Warrior-priest (new model or Silver Tower reuse ?)
6. Shooting platform / War chariot (Whitefang's recommendation to watch Darkoath's episode in Hammer & Bolter serie ?)
7. Light cavalry (I'm running out of clues...)

Anyway, what a time to be fan of Warhammer's medieval and baroque imagery ! 😍😍

[Asbestress]

2 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

I didn't have the Cursed City guys on my list to begin with. They are non-canon in my book. Which is the Book of Grudges because they are great and should be usable.

I counted the 6 extra kits from your list not having them 😛

And yes it is a crime that they aren't legal and probably won't be released separately even though the nun is an absolutely amazing mini and should be turned into a full elite 5 man Order of Azyr priest unit.

[Asbestress]

1 minute ago, Draznak said:

You forgot to remove the shadow warriors

That's even 7 new kits to discover !

Here are my predictions :

1. Reliquary / War Altar (confirmed by 3D render, some clue with "feretory" name according to WarCom article)
2. Artillery (confirmed by Whitefang and today's WarCom article)
3. Elite infantry (strongly suggested by two-hand axe in 3D renders)
4. Callis & Toll (confirmation with positive reaction by Whitefang ?)
5. Warrior-priest (new model or Silver Tower reuse ?)
6. Shooting platform / War chariot (Whitefang's recommendation to watch Darkoath's episode in Hammer & Bolter serie ?)
7. Light cavalry (I'm running out of clues...)

Anyway, what a time to be fan of Warhammer's medieval and baroque imagery ! 😍😍

I WANT. I NEED.

[Grungnisson]

5 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

All Dispossessed and Dark Elves are still in. That's a lot of stuff.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not really complaining. The cull does affect some of my Cities stuff, sure, but it could have been much worse. And, on the whole, I also greatly appreciate the fact that they did put this article up.

I just wish they could halp themselves every now and again with the BS spins. It's obvious, the new human kits are supposed to be the centre of this release. Eveything else is getting a shot in the arm, but we're most likely will end up softly disincentivised by weaker warscrolls. You could even argue they hint at it here:

But hey, my dwarfified Hurricanum and Luminark are still in. I might even give it a little whoop whoop.

[michu]

@Asbestress

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

6 minutes ago, Draznak said:

You forgot to remove the shadow warriors

That's even 7 new kits to discover !

Here are my predictions :

1. Reliquary / War Altar (confirmed by 3D render, some clue with "feretory" name according to WarCom article)
2. Artillery (confirmed by Whitefang and today's WarCom article)
3. Elite infantry (strongly suggested by two-hand axe in 3D renders)
4. Callis & Toll (confirmation with positive reaction by Whitefang ?)
5. Warrior-priest (new model or Silver Tower reuse ?)
6. Shooting platform / War chariot (Whitefang's recommendation to watch Darkoath's episode in Hammer & Bolter serie ?)
7. Light cavalry (I'm running out of clues...)

Anyway, what a time to be fan of Warhammer's medieval and baroque imagery ! 😍😍

Callis and Toll would probably be two warscrolls.

Still hoping for another steam powered unit, myself.

 

2 minutes ago, michu said:

@Asbestress

Bringing back this dumb/awesome kit from the earlierst, silliest days of Warhammer sounds exactly like the kind of thing GW would do.

Edited July 13, 2023 by Neil Arthur Hotep

[Draznak]

4 minutes ago, Asbestress said:

I WANT. I NEED.

I think it's a relevant reference... Very similar in idea to the sort of steam tank-platform seen in Hammer & Bolter episode and it's still a Hussite inspiration, like infantry we now know: I believe in it !

[Acrozatarim]

A new war wagon would be amazing.

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

5 minutes ago, Draznak said:

I think it's a relevant reference... Very similar in idea to the sort of steam tank-platform seen in Hammer & Bolter episode and it's still a Hussite inspiration, like infantry we now know: I believe in it !

I'd buy a steam powered version of the war wagon, that's for sure.

[Draznak]

6 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

Callis and Toll would probably be two warscrolls.

I keep forgetting that GW separates characters in small units like Underworlds warband... 

6 new kits to be revealed for a total of 13, that would already be huge !

[mojojojo101]

Im kind of suprised they've chosen this point to get rid of the Phoenix units, would quite like to see those come back at some point, likewise with Demigryph Knights.

Shadow Warriors always seemed interesting but no one seemed to take them and with the Wood Elf stuff gone too I'm not suprised theyre gone.

Biggest suprise to me is that Battle Wizards are STAYING?!?!?! Might buy the Nomad Prince to use as a proxy for a Ghur/Ghyran mage.

Also good to confirm that willl still have some version of coalition to bring in units from other armies.