samkrow76 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, PJetski said: Bullgors, Kroxigors, Kurnoth Hunters, Chaos Spawn, Rat Ogors, Crypt Flayers, Crypt Horrors, Spirit Hosts, Immortis Guard/Necropolis Stalkers, Felwater Troggoths, Rockgut Troggoths, Gorgers, Yhetees, Maneaters, Gyrocopters/bombers, Ripperdactyl/Terradon Riders Dang, that is more than I thought. I guess a quick google search would show those. However, Bullgors, Krox, chaos spawn, rat ogors, and gyrocopters are rarely used from what I have seen. But hey, until we know for sure guess they could be either way. Unless someone who has done an unboxing has already stated they are and I have missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, PJetski said: On another note do you guys think Annihilators are on 50mm bases? They look slightly larger than 40mm, and if they're on 50mm it's super weird that they are only 3 wounds. I can't think of any other model with less than 4 wounds on that base size. Good question, they look taller than paladins and don't have the "paladin" keyword so they could be on 50mm. I would like to see them on 40mm with 3 wounds tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samkrow76 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said: Good question, they look taller than paladins and don't have the "paladin" keyword so they could be on 50mm. I would like to see them on 40mm with 3 wounds tho I agree only because everything else is on 40mm haha and I would be sent to OCD hell if I had some boys that were slightly bigger Because lets face it, I am going to run them asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Okay so they're definitely on 40mm, their huge bodies just fill out the base more. What size is Yndrastas base? 60mm? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrayKing Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, PJetski said: What size is Yndrastas base? 60mm? I'm pretty sure she's on a 60mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samkrow76 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Yep, that is a dreadnaught base I love that model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 New models like chariot and knight judicator is not mentioned in GHB which means everything can change in battletome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Vindictors are unplayable, Liberators still the only viable choice at 95 per 5 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkayestDM Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, PJetski said: Vindictors are unplayable, Liberators still the only viable choice at 95 per 5 I don't know, MW on 6s definitely has its place. Regardless, these points will be irrelevant once the new SCE battletome drops 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, OkayestDM said: I don't know, MW on 6s definitely has its place. Regardless, these points will be irrelevant once the new SCE battletome drops Just bring Evocators or Annihilators or even Retributors Vindictors are only 10 wounds, they won't last long enough to justify spending 45 more points than a squad of Liberators Hopefully there's significant changes to warscrolls in the battletome Edited June 17, 2021 by PJetski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdemo86 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, PJetski said: Just bring Evocators or Annihilators or even Retributors Vindictors are only 10 wounds, they won't last long enough to justify spending 45 more points than a squad of Liberators Hopefully there's significant changes to warscrolls in the battletome Yeah but they have a 3+ save my friend and can be revived by yndresta!! And yndresta is an auto include now! Evocators and retributors can’t. Also Range 2!!! I would say liberators are dead if there warscroll stay the same. and I have still the opinion that we won’t see any changes on old warscrolls. if you revive only one vindictor the cost is the same as a unit of liberators. It could even be worth playing 3x 10 vindictors because of range 2! Best unit to compare them with now are Auralan wardens. And I think vindictors are just better! Edited June 17, 2021 by Erdemo86 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Erdemo86 said: and I have still the opinion that we won’t see any changes on old warscrolls. This is simply impossible due to a fact that you no longer can have 6 desolators in a unit. Also this would mean that sce will stay in a hellhole of being one of the weakest army again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdemo86 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Nizrah said: This is simply impossible due to a fact that you no longer can have 6 desolators in a unit. Also this would mean that sce will stay in a hellhole of being one of the weakest army again. You can’t reinforce desolaters more than one time! So Max unit is size is 4!! Battlelines reinforce 2 times, everything else 1 time. and it depends on stormgost rules, allegiances if they are still weak. But new units look not bad like I said. Edited June 17, 2021 by Erdemo86 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Erdemo86 said: You can’t reinforce desolaters more than one time! So Max unit is size is 4!! That what i said? So they HAVE to change their warscroll. Edited June 17, 2021 by Nizrah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdemo86 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nizrah said: That what i said? So they HAVE to change their warscroll. I don’t think so.. but we will see! I said it before and I say it again: they want to sell new models! Even if they adjust warscrolls to the new edition like your desolaters example. Why do you think yndresta is only working on new models? Because they want to sell new models. Edited June 17, 2021 by Erdemo86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Anybody snap a screenshot of the points values? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdkingdan Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Erdemo86 said: I don’t think so.. but we will see! I said it before and I say it again: they want to sell new models! Even if they adjust warscrolls to the new edition like your desolaters example. Why do you think yndresta is only working on new models? Why does she only work on new models? Edit: Nothing on her card says Requires Thunderstrike. Edited June 17, 2021 by Nerdkingdan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdemo86 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Nerdkingdan said: Why does she only work on new models? Edit: Nothing on her card says Requires Thunderstrike. She can only revive thunderstrike models? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdkingdan Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, Erdemo86 said: She can only revive thunderstrike models? Card says Stormcast Eternals, not thunderstrike. None of her abilities require thunderstrike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nizrah Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, Erdemo86 said: I don’t think so.. but we will see! I said it before and I say it again: they want to sell new models! Even if they adjust warscrolls to the new edition like your desolaters example. Why do you think yndresta is only working on new models? Because they want to sell new models. her abilities work on all SCE... and argument that GW want to sell new OP models is the most debunked argument ever... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Points up a bit across the board, but not unexpected since that's what happened everywhere. I think it'll take a while until we decipher how our changes stack up to other armies, but we got some nice buffs in general with the edition change I think (or at least, not nerfed in the way many other armies were). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2x15 Judicators double tapping is the new meta 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, PJetski said: 2x15 Judicators double tapping is the new meta You can't use the same Command Ability twice in a single phase, so no doubling up on Anvils CA. I do think 15 Anvils Judicators is a legit build, though, but you probably don't need to double up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Requizen said: You can't use the same Command Ability twice in a single phase, so no doubling up on Anvils CA. I do think 15 Anvils Judicators is a legit build, though, but you probably don't need to double up. Doh, of course Maybe 15 Vindictors with save bonuses and Azyrite Halo are worthwhile as an anvil Dracoths looking real good too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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